Re: [Wikitech-l] New feature: tool edit

2015-02-11 Thread Chris Grant
On 11 Feb 2015 17:57, "Petr Bena"  wrote:
>
> As I said, I belive that any registered user should be able to use,
> with no need for permissions as I see no way to abuse it.

If anyone can use it, wouldn't the smarter vandals just use it to avoid the
RC patrollers?

-Chris
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript

2013-03-05 Thread Chris Grant
This is based on a flawed reading of the GPL. The GPL covers the
distribution of program code. The license specifically states that “The act
of running the Program is not restricted”. (Furthermore: “Activities other
than copying, distribution and modification are not covered by this
License; they are outside its scope.”)

The terms you are all referring to relate to the distribution of the
software, not the running of the software. Wikipedia.org, does not
distribute the software, that is MediaWiki.org's job. If Wikipedia wanted
to, we could remove all licensing information from the software and it
would still be completely legal. The GPL *only* comes into effect once you
start distributing the software.

This is why other licenses such as the Affero General Public License have
been written, to stop people using and modifying software like Mediawiki,
but failing to release their modifications back to the community.

The current method of distributing Mediawiki via Mediawiki.org is perfectly
complaint with the GPL.

-- Chris
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why are we still using captchas on WMF sites?

2013-01-22 Thread Chris Grant
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:53 AM, Bawolff Bawolff  wrote:
> Someone should write a browser addon to automatically decode and fill in
> captchas for blind users. (Only half joking)

Don't joke, I have a blind relative who's screen reader does just that
(simple captchas only).

There are other services like http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha which is
specifically for the blind, but hell its probably cheaper to use the same
captcha reading services that the spammers do.

-- Chris

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:53 AM, Bawolff Bawolff  wrote:

> On 2013-01-22 3:30 PM, "aude"  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Luke Welling WMF <
> lwell...@wikimedia.org
> >wrote:
> >
> > > That was not the end of the problem I was referring to. We know our
> > > specific captcha is broken at turning away machines. As far as I am
> aware
> > > we do not know how many humans are being turned away by the difficulty
> of
> > > it.
> >
> >
> > It's at least impossible for blind users to solve the captcha, without an
> > audio captcha.  (unless they manage to find the toolserver account
> creation
> > thing and enough motivated to do that)
> >
> > I am not convinced of the benefits of captcha versus other spam filtering
> > techniques.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Katie
> >
> >
> >
>
> Someone should write a browser addon to automatically decode and fill in
> captchas for blind users. (Only half joking)
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why are we still using captchas on WMF sites?

2013-01-21 Thread Chris Grant
Not sure about enwiki, but from my experience with hosting smaller wiki's
CAPTCHA's are pretty useless (reCAPTCHA, FancyCAPTCHA, some custom ones).

The spambots keep on flooding through.

I've found its much more effective to just use the AbuseFilter.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

2012-04-11 Thread Chris Grant
Hmm, you could probably do this with a javascript gadget. It would probably
be quicker and easier than an extension.

- Chris

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Petr Bena  wrote:

> I have no idea the page of extension say that it isn't stable
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Marcin Cieslak  wrote:
> >>> Petr Bena  wrote:
> >> It isn't stable, maybe someone should take over the work on it... If
> >> it was finished it would be nice to have feature, if it was ever
> >> deployed of course.
> >
> > Can you describe (maybe on a talk page or maybe better in bugzilla)
> > what's wrong with this extension (why it isn't working) and also
> > how would you like to have it changed? It's much easier to start
> > working on the obsolete codebase than from scratch.
> >
> > //Saper
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