Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

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The recent update of Firefox has made it worse, it basically kills
most of the extensions, deletes your browser bookmark cache and make
nearly all legacy addons useless, so yeah no, unless Firefox stop
making things worse, they should not be the alternative, most would
rather stick with Google Chrome...It has become a danger to even try
to update your browser cause something else breaks after every
update..

On 9/1/17, Legoktm  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 08/31/2017 02:20 PM, Fæ wrote:
>> +1 on appearing to be a slippery slope and benefiting from wider,
>> political, discussion.
>
> Just to clarify, I fully plan on turning this into a wider discussion on
> Meta or alternative venue if/when pursuing this further. I was just
> trying to use wikitech-l as a place to gauge initial reactions from.
>
> Where do you think the slippery slope would lead us to? I don't think
> we're ever going to tell our users to start using GNU/Linux or something.
>
>> I've promoted Wikimedia and projects as being deliberately agnostic.
>
> I think we aim for this, but this isn't the actual case when it comes to
> browser support. For some time Chromium users had better load
> performance than Firefox users due to how localStorage was used, and in
> another case Opera 12 users couldn't access some pages with apostrophes
> in them.
>
> In this case, I'm deliberately proposing that we do take a side and
> align ourselves with Mozilla/Firefox. The main takeaway I got from the
> Wikimania session I mentioned earlier was that all of us free software
> and open content projects need to work together and support each other.
>
> We've already seen the open web lose when Mozilla gave into EME, simply
> because it didn't have enough market share to actually make a
> difference[1]. I'm afraid of the future where we no longer have an ally
> who can defend and push the shared Wikimedian ideals in the web browser
> space.
>
>> Strategically, locking Wikimedia into fixed relationships with other
>> organizations with their own drives and timelines, is going to
>> increase risks downstream.
>
> I do agree this adds risks to us, like in terms of public image if
> something bad happens regarding Firefox. But I don't think it should be
> a locked/fixed relationship, it should be something that we can say "no
> this isn't working" and turn off whenever we need to.
>
> [1]
> https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/05/14/drm-and-the-challenge-of-serving-users/
>
> -- Legoktm
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Re: [Wikitech-l] update: wikipedia.org portal

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Can everything on the right side of the footer be moved to the left
and the "Wikipedia is hosted by the.." part moved to the right side of
the footer? ..it seems odd the other way around..i feel like i'm
reading arabic..

On 5/25/16, MZMcBride  wrote:
> Dan Garry wrote:
>>Regarding the move of the portal to a git-based system, as I explained in
>>great detail in my 18 comments on T110070
>>, this move was done in
>>partnership with Mxn, the primary maintainer of the portal in its previous
>>system. Mxn and I spoke in person about the portal at Wikimania 2015,
>>which was what really kicked this project off; I also mentioned that in
>>my very comment  on
>>that T110070. I was also very clear in my comments on the task
>> that we were
>>specifically trying to improve only wikipedia.org to keep our work
>>manageable and maintain cost effectiveness for our efforts.
>
> Regarding portals other than www.wikipedia.org, perhaps you can respond at
> ?
>
> MZMcBride
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Single login - decision 2004

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took us over a decade but oh well, Well Done Mr Pretzel :D

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

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Until they fix captcha or allow Global Filters to become truly global,
there will always be a risk of spambots. For someone who deals with
these on a regular basis and has been doing it for years, making the
Captcha system more friendly to users also means making it more
'friendly' to spam bot masters...the only alternative is to make
captchas more trickier or harderAs i mentioned a few times on IRC,
every 3rd account created on wikimedia is a spambot and thats just
accounts, not taking into account the thousands of spam edits by IP's
daily..

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