[Wikitech-l] IE 11 and feature compatibility

2021-03-09 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Greetings,

Starting this month (March 2021) and moving forward, new software features
developed by the Wikimedia Foundation for MediaWiki will no longer support
Internet Explorer 11 (IE11). Existing software features may be deprecated
from IE11 as the browser reaches EOL support from Microsoft. More
information about the reasoning behind this is available on mediawiki.org
[1].

1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility/IE11

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[Wikitech-l] Global preferences available for testing

2018-02-27 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Greetings,

Global Preferences [0], a result of the 2016 Community Wishlist campaign
[1], are ready for testing before being released to the wikis.

To test them out and leave feedback, login or register on a beta wiki such
as the English Wikipedia [2], German Wiktionary [3] or Hebrew Wikipedia
[4], then visit your global preferences [5]. After that you can wander
around the beta wikis, trying things out. If you find bugs or anything else
of note to comment on, you can leave feedback on the Help discussion page
[6].

Thanks, see you on the wikis.

​0. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:GlobalPreferences
1.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories/Miscellaneous#Global_settings
2. https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org
3. https://de.wiktionary.beta.wmflabs.org
4. https://he.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org
5. Special:GlobalPreferences (for example
https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:GlobalPreferences )
6. ​https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Extension:GlobalPreferences

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Re: [Wikitech-l] JADE needs your feedback

2017-10-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
​Hi all,

Feedback is needed for specifics:

* ​Judgments, Endorsements, and Preferences -
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tzw0uv2bucrdprm4
​* Thematic and quant analysis of judgements -
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tzw5fix7hbs4ui8j​
​*  Free text comments and suppression -
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tzw4ebq17wbdog74​
* Should we integrate JADE with Flow? -
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tzw3qg8qiqow10d8

If you think you might have something to say, please take a look and
contribute.

I think this should be the last general email with Wikidata-l cc'd. Thanks!

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Re: [Wikitech-l] JADE needs your feedback

2017-10-05 Thread Keegan Peterzell
​I should add,

If you'd like to receive an occasional notice on-wiki when JADE needs
feedback​, feel free to sign up on meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/JADE

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[Wikitech-l] JADE needs your feedback

2017-10-05 Thread Keegan Peterzell
(cross-posting to Wikitech and Wikidata; Wikidata is getting this due to
the general interest in data sets and databases)

Greetings,

The Platform Scoring Team at the Wikimedia Foundation are developing an
auditing tool for ORES, the Judgement and Dialogue Engine (JADE) [0]. It's
largely inspired by the false positive reporting work that currently occurs
by hand on wiki pages. JADE's purpose is to provide human oversight to
ORES's AI work.

The team is seeking input in two areas as development begins in two
technical areas: the database schema [1], and the implementation strategy
[2]. If you have thoughts or experience to share in how to best set these
up, please have a look over the pages. Questions, comments, concerns are
welcome on the talk pages [3][4].

Feedback and stories on using ORES in production is also welcome, to help
give the team general ideas about areas of concern and/or improvement that
JADE should keep in mind [5].

Thank you for your time, see you on the wikis.

0. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/JADE

1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/JADE/Schema

2. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/JADE/Implementations

3. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:JADE/Schema

4. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:JADE/Implementations

5. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:JADE

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Turkey ban

2017-05-02 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Jonathan Morgan <jmor...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> And now, this:
> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/2-chinese-
> writers-will-create-their-own-wikipedia-competitor/
>
>
​IIRC, China has been announcing such an initiative in various forms almost
perennially since Wikipedia became popular in the mid-aughts, and every
time the tech journalists go nuts.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of Technical Collaboration Guidance discussion

2017-03-11 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Is the *Technical Collaboration Guidance*
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Collaboration_Guidance still
> actively under development?


​Yes, there are internal stakeholder discussions still underway.
​

> There seems to have been no discussion of any
> substance since January.  Is there an intention to bring the discussion to
> a close


​Eventually the plan is to remove the draft tag, yes.
​

> and to implement the guidance?


​As guidance, there is nothing to "implement" as you say. As has been
discussed on the talk page, these are not rules to be placed into effect.
This is a guidance manual from the TC team. The guidance is available for
teams to check if they'd like a written resource for the type of work that
Community Liaisons generally do.​

​Further questions are welcome on the talk page, where discussions can be
properly captured on-wiki.​

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Discussion Platform

2016-12-06 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Stephen Niedzielski <
sniedziel...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> +1 for matrix.org. I use Riot <https://riot.im/app> and the Android app.
> The IRC bridge is still a bit flaky but it seems more reliable than a
> bouncer. If you do go the bouncer route, I recommend firrre
> <https://firrre.com/>.
>
>
​Firrre signups are suspended (again), and they used to also require
linking to an active github.
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[Wikitech-l] Invitation to review: Design Statement of Purpose

2016-11-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Hello all,

Over the past few months the Design team members at the Wikimedia
Foundation (user experience [UX] designers, design researchers, user
experience engineers, and communications) have been working with Arthur
Richards from the Team Practices Group to identify the high-level themes
that motivate design at the WMF. These themes have been turned into a brief
statement of purpose, whose intent is to articulate the vision and purpose
behind design at the WMF. This statement will influence the future
direction of design work.

At this point the stakeholders are ready for a review of the draft
statement. The purpose of this review is to gather a common understanding
of its purpose, and to identify any key themes that may be missing from the
high-level discussion. On the wiki page for the statement, you'll find
these themes and what they encompass in the "Background" section. If you
have an observation, comment, or concern about what is listed there, please
bring it up on the talk page. If it is relevant to the review and
understanding of the statement, it will be looked at for future drafts. If
there are comments about design and the design process in general, we'll
hold on to those until a time when they can be addressed for the broader
discussion of design in general.

All that said, here are the links:
* <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design/Statement_of_purpose>
* <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Design/Statement_of_purpose>

We look forward to seeing you on the wiki.
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[Wikitech-l] Invitation for review: Technical Collaboration Guideline

2016-10-24 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Greetings,

Wikimedians, please review something we are working on for the Wikimedia
Foundation, the Technical Collaboration Guideline [0].

The Technical Collaboration Guideline (TCG) is a set of best practice
recommendations, for planning and communicating product and project
information to Wikimedia communities, in order to work better, together.
The TCG allows Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) Product teams and Wikimedia
communities to work together in a systematic way in the product development
and deployment cycle. It is hoped that the TCG is useful enough to be
utilized in planning and communications regarding any project, from anyone.
The TCG is intended to be flexible as plans and products change in
development; it is a guide whose contents will help build collaborative
relationships.

The initial draft of the TCG was written after discussions in small groups
with members of the Community Liaisons and Product Management teams, to
identify successes and failures in communication, and what we can do to
encourage collaboration with the communities. Over the next month, I am
seeking review and feedback from Wikimedia community members. All feedback
that is left will be read; if there is a case for immediate action, it will
be made. All feedback will be taken into consideration when editing the
next draft of the TCG. Please keep in mind that the TCG is intended to be
lightweight information and instruction and will not be completely
comprehensive. The TCG and the conversations about it are in English, but
comments from all languages are welcome.

Over the next few days, this invitation for review will be distributed
across the wikis.

Also, within the coming weeks, I'll be announcing a review on behalf of the
WMF's Design team. They have been working diligently over the past few
months to identify and define the purpose of design within the WMF, and
they are looking forward to sharing this statement of purpose with the
broader Wikimedia movement for comment. If you're interested, please be on
the lookout for this review announcement.

I look forward to reading your comments on the wiki [1].

0. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Collaboration_Guideline

1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Technical_Collaboration_Guideline

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Re: [Wikitech-l] My username

2016-04-23 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Muhammed Tatlısu <
tatlisumuham...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hı, I requested to change the user name (Kingbjelica to Müdür)
> Now I want to cancel it.
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I have declined the request on your behalf in my volunteer capacity as a
Global Renamer (volunteer account isn't subscribed to these lists).

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Internship opening: product management at WMDE

2016-03-24 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Forwarding info about an opportunity to intern in product management with
> Wikidata and the good people at Wikimedia Deutschland.
>
> Pine


Thanks for spreading the word, Pine!

I think it's worth drawing attention to the first bullet point in the role
description:

* [...] enrolled as a Bachelor or Master student at a German university or
college or qualified for working in Germany as an ERASMUS program student.

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[Wikitech-l] Design and development principles

2015-11-16 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Hi all,

Please note that what I'm about to talk about is informative to how the
Wikimedia Foundation develops MediaWiki software.

As you may have seen, engineering in the Wikimedia Foundation is working to
define the software product development process to be used internally [0].
As part of this, I'm working on developing a list of guiding principles for
the software development process [1]. For examples of what this looks like
for some other organizations, please see [2] and/or [3].

There is an initial draft of principles up that resulted from the above,
located on MediaWiki.org [4]. These are high-level principles that are
meant to be overarching reminders of good practice for WMF engineering, a
sort-of poster on the wall. Vagrity is intentional to an extent as a
result. As noted on the wiki page, this list is being developed in spirit
with Wikimedia movement [5] principles, the Wikimedia Foundation's Guiding
Principles for operation [6, and a survey of some staff to find out what is
important to them in the process [7].

Comments, questions, thoughts, and whatnot are welcome on the talk page [8].

0. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_product_development_process
1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_and_development_principles
2. http://www.unicefstories.org/principles
3. https://www.gov.uk/design-principles
4. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_and_development_principles/Draft
5. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement
6.
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Wikimedia_Foundation_Guiding_Principles
7. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_and_development_principles/Survey
<~ still to be filled in
8.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Design_and_development_principles/Draft

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Re: [Wikitech-l] LDAP extension ownership

2015-09-19 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Keegan Peterzell <kpeterz...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

>
> It's also possible to cross the streams. My Phabricator account was
> registered through LDAP and I registered it with CentralAuth to connect all
> the Keegans <there's links to be had here, but it's late>.
>
>
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/external/

If you've created through LDAP and need to attach to CA.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] LDAP extension ownership

2015-09-19 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Keegan Peterzell <kpeterz...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:03 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, bluntly put, since LDAP is how most non-WMF staff sign into
>> phabricator, I'd say it's become an essential extension.
>>
>> So yeah, this one should be taken over by WMF staff.
>>
>
> I'm welcome to correction, but I believe the opposite is true: Most
> non-WMF sign into Phabricator using CentralAuth. Many (I wouldn't say most)
> WMF accounts use LDAP.
>
> It's also possible to cross the streams. My Phabricator account was
> registered through LDAP and I registered it with CentralAuth to connect all
> the Keegans <there's links to be had here, but it's late>.
>
> This does not diminish Greg's point. Just sayin'.
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] LDAP extension ownership

2015-09-19 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:03 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, bluntly put, since LDAP is how most non-WMF staff sign into
> phabricator, I'd say it's become an essential extension.
>
> So yeah, this one should be taken over by WMF staff.
>

I'm welcome to correction, but I believe the opposite is true: Most non-WMF
sign into Phabricator using CentralAuth. Many (I wouldn't say most) WMF
accounts use LDAP.

It's also possible to cross the streams. My Phabricator account was
registered through LDAP and I registered it with CentralAuth to connect all
the Keegans <there's links to be had here, but it's late>.

This does not diminish Greg's point. Just sayin'.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] LDAP extension ownership

2015-09-19 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Keegan Peterzell <kpeterz...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 2:03 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, bluntly put, since LDAP is how most non-WMF staff sign into
>> phabricator, I'd say it's become an essential extension.
>>
>
Even more technically, this (LDAP) is for people committing to Gerrit and
adding to Wikitech. These LDAP accounts can tie in CentralAuth through
oAuth.

But again, yes, LDAP should be some sort of "maintained" in the sense that
Greg G. describes, and I think it will be.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Delays in loading pages on Wikimedia sites

2015-09-01 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yesterday and today, I've experienced a number of delays in getting pages
> to load on Wikimedia sites. My connectivity to other websites is normal, so
> I think something may be going on internally with Wikimedia connectivity. I
> recall seeing discussions during Mexico Wikimania about testing connections
> to Wikimedia sites systematically from geographically dispersed locations.
> Is that kind of testing being done? Are there any other tools which might
> explain the delays in getting connections and loading pages?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pine


Hm, I don't see anything alarming here:
http://status.wikimedia.org/8777/169667/https-services---wikipedia


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Re: [Wikitech-l] [IRC] BotBot logs

2015-06-13 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Very cool. Thank you, Petr.

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[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Single login - decision 2004

2015-04-22 Thread Keegan Peterzell
-- Forwarded message --
From: Keegan Peterzell kpeterz...@wikimedia.org
Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Single login - decision 2004
To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org


On Nov 11, 2004, at 03:27:00 UTC , Erik Moeller erik_moel...@gmx.de wrote
[1]:

 Hi,
 there's been some movement forward on the Single User Login (SUL) issue. I

 ask the Board to review this mail carefully as this has significant long-
 term implications and we need Board input to go ahead. I also ask other
 developers to correct me if I misrepresent anything.
 There are currently three competing strategies. Before I describe these
 strategies, let me point out that one important consideration for any
 system is scalability. That is, single login will be used on all existing
 and future Wikimedia projects, and potentially even on non-Wikimedia sites

 which we allow to participate in our system.
 The three strategies are:
 1) GLOBAL NAMESPACE, IMMEDIATE CONFLICT RESOLUTION
 We try to move towards a single global user namespace for all Wikimedia
 wikis. If a name is already taken in the global namespace, you have to
 find one which isn't.
 For the migration, any names which clearly belong to the same user are
 combined into one. If passwords and email addresses are different, the
 user can manually link together any accounts which belong to him by
 providing the passwords.
 For cases of true name conflicts between the existing wikis, there is a
 resolution phase, where factors like seniority, use on multiple wikis vs.
 a single one, etc., are weighed in - the loser has to choose a new
 account name.
 After the manual resolution phase, any remaining accounts are converted to

 the new system automatically by making them unique, e.g. by adding a
 number to the username. The transition is now complete. The old system no
 longer exists.

---

 1) is very complex, and we may not find someone willing to deal with the
 name conflict resolution issue and take the blame from annoyed users at
 the same time. Naming conflicts will always be an issue in this scheme, as

 e.g. all common first names will be taken, and any small wiki hooking up
 with our SUL system would feel this impact. People can mutate these
 usernames relatively easily to make them unique - Erik333 - and the system

 can offer such mutations, but it's still a bit annoying.


This is now complete [2]. That wasn't too bad.

1.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2004-November/061327.html
2. https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2015-April/077576.html

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user pages deployed to all wikis

2015-02-18 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Hi Pine,

I'm actually the owner of SUL finalization. It is happening in April. The
big messaging, rename schema, and a special page listing users that will be
affected is coming in a few days and there will be a big update then. You
can always follow along on Phabricator.[1][2]

Until then, let us continue to congratulate Kunal and cohorts!

1. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37707
2. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/sul-finalization/

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On Feb 19, 2015 12:56 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the very good news.

 Dan, can we get an ETA about SUL finalization?

 Pine
 On Feb 18, 2015 5:07 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello!
 
  Global user pages have now been deployed to all public wikis for users
  with CentralAuth accounts. Documentation on the feature is available at
  mediawiki.org[1], and if you notice any bugs please file them in
  Phabricator[2].
 
  Thanks to all the people who helped with the creation and deployment
  (incomplete, and in no particular order): Jack Phoenix  ShoutWiki,
 Isarra,
  MZMcBride, Nemo, Quiddity, Aaron S, Matt F, James F, and everyone who
  helped with testing it while it was in beta.
 
  [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:GlobalUserPage
  [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?
  projects=PHID-PROJ-j536clyie42uptgjkft7
 
 
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[Wikitech-l] Tool on labs for replacing old username signatures

2015-02-06 Thread Keegan Peterzell
When users are renamed, it is up to the user to find and replace all old
instances of their signature to make sure that they redirect to the
appropriate account if they want to put that much work into. The other
option is the re-register your old username and redirect it to the new one.
This is not feasible all the time, for instance if someone owns the SUL to
the old username and comes over to take it before it gets re-registered.

I was wondering if anyone had the interest to build a tool on labs that
would let a renamed user find-and-replace old signatures in an automated
fashion? The tool would check against the rename log and the old timestamp
to make sure it's the appropriate user, and substitute the old name part
with ~~~ to insert the new username while preserving the timestamp.

I'm not a developer my self, so thoughts on feasibility and implementation
are welcome. I think such a tool would be highly useful and I'm slightly
surprised it hasn't been made yet.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Tool on labs for replacing old username signatures

2015-02-06 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:


 On the surface, I'd agree. The problem is that many of the people whose
 usernames get changed will have them changed because someone else is
 usurping the original username, so it's not acceptable to redirect the
 (original) userpage to the new name; it will now belong to someone
 else.This will become increasingly complex as users elect to use the global
 userpage that's now being tested per a separate email to this list today.
 Those old signatures will link to the wrong user, so there is now a much
 more valid reason to update them.
 I do agree with both Brad and John that it's not really been considered all
 that acceptable in the past on enwiki, but then again in almost all cases
 I'm aware of, the user was changing hundreds or even thousands of signature
 lines, as a result of an entirely voluntary change in username. I suspect
 that, with careful communication, even the enwiki community would come to
 see this as a net benefit for username changes related to the SUL
 finalization specifically.
 What would be needed is some script or bot that changes the signatures from
 prior to the date of username change, in particular, so that signatures by
 the new owner of the username won't be changed.
 Risker/Anne
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This.

If anyone is interested, do let me know. The idea for this tool is
completely optional, just as its use, but I think it's one well worth
pursuing. With SUL finalization and global userpages, as Risker points out,
the English community might be willing to change its mind in the near
future.

And I'm not even speaking specific to the English Wikipedia, this is a
global consideration. If there's a bot with a web UI hosted on labs I'd
expect it go through the same bot approval process as any other bot as
needed, per-wiki to see if the communities accept it as an opt-in.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] slow death of anyone can edit concept (was: [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming))

2014-08-09 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Svetlana,

On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote:


 I would adore talking to the relevant project people, but I /do not see
 them/ on this wonderful page:
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Winter


Brandon Harris is designing Winter, he is the most relevant project person.
Hope that helps :)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Anyone going to WikiMania?

2014-07-20 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:

 On 07/19/2014 05:47 AM, Mark Clements (HappyDog) wrote:
  I've never been to a hackathon before!  What should I expect?  Are any
  of you guys coming?

 Hackathons tend to cover the range from complete newbie to Brion;
 it's the meeting place for everyone who are involved - or want to get
 involved - in everything related to technical aspects of
 Mediawiki/Wikimedia; from core to language to tools.

 It's actually quite fun; you get to sit down and work with like-minded
 people on most everything that strikes you fancy, and whatever you want
 to learn you are certain you meet someone there you can teach you.  (And
 vice-versa!).  Whether you feel like sitting down and to a hacking run,
 flit from one topic to another to find new things you can help with, or
 just want to meet-and-greet you'll find something for you.


Relevant reading:

*https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon: What to expect, the
schedule, etc...

*https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hackathon/Laptop_setup: What and how to
install the tools you need if you don't have them already (Git, Gerrit,
MediaWiki-Vagrant, etc..)

I hope you enjoy the hackathon, Mark!

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [GSOC 2014] Demo - Parsoid Based Linter

2014-07-19 Thread Keegan Peterzell
Loaded fine for me right now.

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