Re: [Wikitech-l] uploading ODF files??

2009-05-06 Thread Nicolas Dumazet
2009/5/6 Marco Schuster ma...@harddisk.is-a-geek.org:
 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Rayson Ho raysonlo...@gmail.com wrote:

 While we are on this topic... I am wondering if (or when) we will
 allow ODF files to be uploaded to Wikipedia / Wikimedia.


 Never, I think.

Yep. I think that this archive discussion from las November
http://www.mail-archive.com/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/msg00064.html
is relevant
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Re: [Wikitech-l] implementing the Interlanguage extension

2009-03-17 Thread Nicolas Dumazet
 If we're going to create a special tool, there's no point in stopping so
 short that we still have to rely on somebody to run client-side bots to make
 it work properly.

I think that it is a request to start looking into ways to handle
interwiki links from the inside, rather than still relying on bots to
update the pages.

The interlanguage extension is a nice first step towards the inclusion
in core of all the work that we are currently doing with interwiki
bots. But why would we rely on, again, client-side bots to update
anything? The bot work seems to be smaller with this system, agreed.
But perhaps these new type of bots updates could simply be transformed
into Jobs and put in the Job queue.

At least the idea is to try to find a workflow that could be included
in the server as much as possible instead of saying that client-side
bots will handle the update tasks.

2009/3/17 Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.yu:
 Дана Saturday 14 March 2009 23:20:01 Amir E. Aharoni написа:
 2009/3/15 Andrew Garrett and...@werdn.us:
  On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Sorry about bugging the list about it, but can anyone please explain
  the reason for not enabling the Interlanguage extension?
 
  See bug 15607 -
  https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15607
 
  In general, extensions with this status haven't been implemented
  because they haven't been reviewed by a highly experienced developer.

 Brion wrote a few comments there, but i didn't understand what exactly
 is the problem.

 Seconded. Brion's comments are:

 I don't quite understand what this extension is meant to accomplish, or how
 the workflow is envisioned. What are the user interface and performance
 considerations?

 The lack of automatic updates seems less than ideal, as does the multiple
 fetching of link data over the HTTP API on every page render. Management UI
 by manual editing of offsite pages looks pretty ugly; what could be done to
 improve this?



 I don't fully understand them.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-03-11 Thread Nicolas Dumazet
Yeah!

I was part of the mixed luck from last year, and honestly, I get
warm feelings when reading the friendly
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009/Application_template
;)


I don't know if anyone here is willing to be a mentor this year, but
please go ahead, and try to help a student. The experience is unique
for students, as it really motivates them to get involved -- if not in
mediawiki -- in an OSS project.

I don't know how to put it nicely, but the key for GSoC to succeed,
on the mentor/senior devs side, is just to be *very* available. Easy
thing to say, I know, but that would be nice to keep this in mind if
we plan to host students this year.
It's not about having xx minutes available a day for my student,
it's more of being able to set up in advance regular IRC meetings so
that his (her?) questions can be answered in real-time: being stuck on
your code when it seems like you won't get your questions answered in
a long time particularly sucks; especially when it seems to you that
answers are really simple.

And it's not only about mentors, but also about having some
awareness from devs that students are going to hang around on IRC,
asking for directions, and also sometimes asking (very) naive
questions: let's try not to bite them! =)


So yes, let's move, let's get involved into GSoC again! This is really
a great project, and I'm really looking forward to seeing new faces
around, bringing in new ideas, as naive as they may sound =)


2009/3/11 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org:
 I’ve just put in Wikimedia’s org application for Google Summer of Code
 2009… Hopefully we’ll get in. :)

 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009
 ^ Add and update cool project ideas as a starting point for student
 applicants!

 We’ve had mixed luck in previous years with GSoC, but I think we’ve got
 enough internal bandwidth this year that we can make sure there’s enough
 effort put into interacting with the student candidates ahead of time to
 pick the coolest and most go-get-em self-starter awesome projects and
 then support them through the project term.


 I’ve also tossed up a student application template if you want to get
 started early. :)

 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009/Application_template

 -- brion

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Re: [Wikitech-l] API breakage a few hours ago

2009-02-18 Thread Nicolas Dumazet
(Did you read http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki.api/911 ? )

And for future reference, mediawiki-api mailing list might be more
convenient to flag api-related issues ;)

Cheers,

2009/2/18 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org:
 Robert Ullmann wrote:
 [...]
 now it returns

   query recentchanges=

 Filed in Bugzilla at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17552

 -- Tim Starling


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Error After Upgrade on Ubuntu

2009-02-18 Thread Nicolas Dumazet
The version available in Ubuntu reps is sadly 1.12.0 for intrepid [0]

Apparently Ubuntu 9.04 (release date in the end of April) will support
MW 1.13.3 [1]

If update.php is not run on version update, we should probably get
more details and report this on ubuntu launchpad. :)

[0] http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid-updates/mediawiki
[1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/mediawiki

2009/2/18 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@home.nl:
 Chris Spencer schreef:
 Hi,

 I'm running Mediawiki 1.11.2
 You should really be running a more recent version, like 1.13.4. Is
 1.11.2 the version you upgraded to, or the one you upgraded from?

 Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Mailing List messages without headers

2008-11-15 Thread Nicolas Dumazet
Don't received anything like this, on gmail too. Mention an example
maybe, so we can double-check ?

2008/11/15 K. Peachey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm not sure if its a bug on GMail's end or what, but recent I've been
 getting emails from multiple different MediaWiki mailing lists that
 seem to have no headers so it displays as (unknown sender) or (no
 sender) and doesn't display in the message thread that it doesn't
 appear to be meant to go into. Anyone else having this issue or is it
 just me?

 -Peachey

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