Re: [Wikitech-l] Dealing with Large Files when attempting a wikipedia database download - Focus upon Bittorrent List

[Stig Meireles Johansen]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Torrent isn't a very good transfer method for things which are not
 fairly popular as it has a fair amount of overhead.

 The wikimedia download site should be able to saturate your internet
 connection in any case…


But some ISP's throttle TCP-connections (either by design or by simple
oversubscription and random packet drops), so many small connections *can*
yield a better result for the end user. And if you are so unlucky as to
having a crappy connection from your country to the download-site, maybe,
just maybe someone in your own country already has downloaded it and is
willing to share the torrent... :)

I can saturate my little 1M ADSL-link with torrent-downloads, but forget
about getting throughput when it comes to HTTP-requests... if it's in the
country, in close proximity and the server is willing, then *maybe*.. but
else.. no way.

Not everyone is very well connected, unfortunately...

/Stigmj
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikiEN-l] Suggestion on how referencing system could be improved

[Stig Meireles Johansen]

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:29 AM, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gregory Maxwell wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Remember the dot
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've found that neatly spacing references does wonders for keeping
 wikitext
  readable. For example:
 
  Yes, but then the text is no less impossible to simply read through if
  you don't care about the refs and you're just editing the text,
  especially if you[] have cases[] where the refs are sprinkled
  liberally[][].
 
  As a reader like the end result of the refs being placed as close to
  the fact that support as possible, but it makes the paragraph hell to
  edit.
 

 I think, rather than using JS to hide refs in page text, defining them
 all in the references section, or at least at the end of the section
 they're used in for larger articles, using some sort of new option in
 the ref tags to make them not display - ref name=Foo
 nodisplay=1.../ref - or something, then referring to them inline
 with only the short form - ref name=Foo/ - would be better. A lot of
 refs on one sentence would still be a little messy, but much better. Of
 course, the problem would be migrating all the existing refs to such a
 system, the benefit to just hiding them is that it'll work with
 everything as it is now.

snip

You should check out
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Cite/Cite.php#Variation_for_refs_in_the_final_references_blockas
this has already been done, but not yet implemented in the Cite-code.

We'd like to see this (or something similar) implemented as soon as
possible.. :)

/Stig
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