Re: [Wikitech-l] Browser stats - OS as well?

2009-11-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Mark Clements (HappyDog)
gm...@kennel17.co.uk wrote:
 Do you mean
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm?

Cool. What is the mediawiki browser?

Steve

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Browser stats - OS as well?

2009-11-14 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Mark Clements (HappyDog)
 gm...@kennel17.co.uk wrote:
 Do you mean
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm?

 Cool. What is the mediawiki browser?

Perhaps the fetching of description pages from Commons? Does that go
via the squids?

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[Wikitech-l] Browser stats - OS as well?

2009-11-08 Thread David Gerard
I just rediscovered this marvellous page:

http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm

Browser stats from a very mainstream, top-5 website, pure and unbiased!

One interesting question missing there: OS breakdown?
Windows/Mac/Linux/various mobiles/other? Would it be feasible to list
these as well?


- d.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Browser stats - OS as well?

2009-11-08 Thread Mark Clements (HappyDog)
David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote in message 
news:fbad4e140911080717j10f5b64v14bb47223fe1b...@mail.gmail.com...
I just rediscovered this marvellous page:

 http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm

 Browser stats from a very mainstream, top-5 website, pure and unbiased!

 One interesting question missing there: OS breakdown?
 Windows/Mac/Linux/various mobiles/other? Would it be feasible to list
 these as well?



Do you mean 
http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm?

Or perhaps you mean browser/OS combinations?

- Mark Clements (HappyDog) 



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Browser stats - OS as well?

2009-11-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/8 Mark Clements (HappyDog) gm...@kennel17.co.uk:
 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote in message
 news:fbad4e140911080717j10f5b64v14bb47223fe1b...@mail.gmail.com...

I just rediscovered this marvellous page:
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm
 Browser stats from a very mainstream, top-5 website, pure and unbiased!
 One interesting question missing there: OS breakdown?
 Windows/Mac/Linux/various mobiles/other? Would it be feasible to list
 these as well?

 Do you mean
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm?


:-D That's PRECISELY what I'm after, thank you!


 Or perhaps you mean browser/OS combinations?


I think that'll do for the moment, though the combined figures would
be of interest :-)

The problem these numbers solve is that most browser stat reports are
a pack of lies at worst and hideously biased at best. Wikimedia sites
are stupidly mainstream and long ago went beyond being the province of
geeks, or even web savvy users. Even idiots use Wikipedia.

So the actual stats from an unbiased source with no interest in the
fight are a ridiculously valuable commodity.


- d.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Browser stats - OS as well?

2009-11-08 Thread Steve Summit
 Since some sites have regexes that assume that major version is one
 character long, the Opera developers had to resort to reporting a 9.x
 version in the old place, and append the actual version later.

Good grief.  That's one of the stupidest things I've heard in some time.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Browser stats - OS as well?

2009-11-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/8 Steve Summit s...@eskimo.com:

 Since some sites have regexes that assume that major version is one
 character long, the Opera developers had to resort to reporting a 9.x
 version in the old place, and append the actual version later.

 Good grief.  That's one of the stupidest things I've heard in some time.


Welcome to the world of user agent strings. They're almost entirely
composed of lies for browser compatibility.


- d.

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