Re: [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs/PendingChanges in only specific pages (e.g. Biographies of living persons)
Thank you, all. I will tell your answer to Japanese Wikipedians. Thanks again Original Message Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs/PendingChanges in only specific pages (e.g. Biographies of living persons) From: Risker risker...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: 2013/04/27 5:45 On 26 April 2013 13:40, maill...@enmps.net wrote: Hi all! Nowadays we, Japanese Wikipedians, are discussing what we should do for the next election of the Diet, which is the first one after the Election Law allows online election campaigning. And there are an idea to install FlaggedRevs or PendingChanges extension to hide the unreviewed edits to avoid defamation and vandalism and so on. So I have a question; can we apply such functions to the specific pages (e.g. with a template or a magic word)? or are there any other suited functions/extensions to handle such problem? Thank you. I cannot speak about FlaggedRevs, which I believe is enabled on German and Russian Wikipedias, but I can give you some practical, non-technical information about PendingChanges, which is enabled on English Wikipedia. PendingChanges allows an administrator to set the article to require that edits from a specific group of editors (usually non-confirmed editors, which includes all unregistered editors) be held in pending status, and not displayed to the reader. It is done through the page protection interface. Editors with reviewer permissions, which includes all administrators and any other group that the project wants to include, review the pending edits and decide whether or not they should be included in the article. Even if the pending edit is rejected by the reviewer, it remains in the history of the page. English Wikipedia is currently using PendingChanges on a small number of pages, usually those that have a lot of vandalism or inappropriate edits from unregistered or new editors. It is not perfect - for example, it can cause time-outs on really large pages - but it is useful provided that there are enough editors with reviewer permissions to keep up with any backlog. Your project would have to decide on the criteria for deciding whether or not an edit is accepted; on English Wikipedia, we reject edits that are obviously vandalism, as well as unreferenced negative information about living people. I'd be happy to give you a tour and some further information off-list if you think this would be helpful in making a decision. Meanwhile, the main participants of this list can probably answer more of the technical questions. Best, Risker ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- 青子守歌 aokomoriuta e-mail: aokomori...@enmps.net URL: http://j.mp/ao_komoriuta twitter: http://twitter.com/aokomoriuta jawp: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:aokomoriuta mixi: http://mixi.jp/show_friend.pl?id=19926155 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs/PendingChanges in only specific pages (e.g. Biographies of living persons)
Hi all! Nowadays we, Japanese Wikipedians, are discussing what we should do for the next election of the Diet, which is the first one after the Election Law allows online election campaigning. And there are an idea to install FlaggedRevs or PendingChanges extension to hide the unreviewed edits to avoid defamation and vandalism and so on. So I have a question; can we apply such functions to the specific pages (e.g. with a template or a magic word)? or are there any other suited functions/extensions to handle such problem? Thank you. -- 青子守歌 aokomoriuta e-mail: aokomori...@enmps.net URL: http://j.mp/ao_komoriuta twitter: http://twitter.com/aokomoriuta jawp: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:aokomoriuta mixi: http://mixi.jp/show_friend.pl?id=19926155 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs/PendingChanges in only specific pages (e.g. Biographies of living persons)
I think FlaggedRevs makes it possible to configure pages – that is, for each page, manually override whether the version shown by default is the flagged one or the draft one. I don't know of any WMF wiki that actually uses this, though. -- Matma Rex ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs/PendingChanges in only specific pages (e.g. Biographies of living persons)
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: I think FlaggedRevs makes it possible to configure pages – that is, for each page, manually override whether the version shown by default is the flagged one or the draft one. I don't know of any WMF wiki that actually uses this, though. This is actually the fundamental difference between FlaggedRevs and PendingChanges (even though they're the same extension). For the period of time that enwiki was using PendingChanges, it was in this configuration. -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs/PendingChanges in only specific pages (e.g. Biographies of living persons)
Thank you for answer. So you mean that we (Japanese Wikipedia) can use FlaggedRevs extension - * set current (unreviewed) version as default display * and manually change the default display to stable (reviewed) version for each specific page which we should handle, by sysop (or who has stablesettings right) through [[Special:Stabilization]] (list is on [[Special:ConfiguredPages]]) if we request in bugzilla after consensus, right? I think FlaggedRevs makes it possible to configure pages ? that is, for each page, manually override whether the version shown by default is the flagged one or the draft one. I don't know of any WMF wiki that actually uses this, though. -- Matma Rex ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- 青子守歌 aokomoriuta e-mail: aokomori...@enmps.net URL: http://j.mp/ao_komoriuta twitter: http://twitter.com/aokomoriuta jawp: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:aokomoriuta mixi: http://mixi.jp/show_friend.pl?id=19926155 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs/PendingChanges in only specific pages (e.g. Biographies of living persons)
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:02:33 +0200, maill...@enmps.net wrote: So you mean that we (Japanese Wikipedia) can use FlaggedRevs extension - * set current (unreviewed) version as default display * and manually change the default display to stable (reviewed) version for each specific page which we should handle, by sysop (or who has stablesettings right) through [[Special:Stabilization]] (list is on [[Special:ConfiguredPages]]) if we request in bugzilla after consensus, right? That should be possible as far as I know, but I am neither a FlaggedRevs expert nor a person who could actually enable FlaggedRevs on your wiki. -- Matma Rex ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs/PendingChanges in only specific pages (e.g. Biographies of living persons)
On 26 April 2013 13:40, maill...@enmps.net wrote: Hi all! Nowadays we, Japanese Wikipedians, are discussing what we should do for the next election of the Diet, which is the first one after the Election Law allows online election campaigning. And there are an idea to install FlaggedRevs or PendingChanges extension to hide the unreviewed edits to avoid defamation and vandalism and so on. So I have a question; can we apply such functions to the specific pages (e.g. with a template or a magic word)? or are there any other suited functions/extensions to handle such problem? Thank you. I cannot speak about FlaggedRevs, which I believe is enabled on German and Russian Wikipedias, but I can give you some practical, non-technical information about PendingChanges, which is enabled on English Wikipedia. PendingChanges allows an administrator to set the article to require that edits from a specific group of editors (usually non-confirmed editors, which includes all unregistered editors) be held in pending status, and not displayed to the reader. It is done through the page protection interface. Editors with reviewer permissions, which includes all administrators and any other group that the project wants to include, review the pending edits and decide whether or not they should be included in the article. Even if the pending edit is rejected by the reviewer, it remains in the history of the page. English Wikipedia is currently using PendingChanges on a small number of pages, usually those that have a lot of vandalism or inappropriate edits from unregistered or new editors. It is not perfect - for example, it can cause time-outs on really large pages - but it is useful provided that there are enough editors with reviewer permissions to keep up with any backlog. Your project would have to decide on the criteria for deciding whether or not an edit is accepted; on English Wikipedia, we reject edits that are obviously vandalism, as well as unreferenced negative information about living people. I'd be happy to give you a tour and some further information off-list if you think this would be helpful in making a decision. Meanwhile, the main participants of this list can probably answer more of the technical questions. Best, Risker ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
