Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-05-10 Thread jidanni 
> "KP" == K Peachey  writes:
KP> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Andrew Garrett  
wrote:
>> What does this mean?
KP> i believe that might a comment regarding tables having a border
KP> defined in html or not.
Actually it was a test to see if any of you recognize text browser dumps
or how terrible many peoples templates look in them. But as nobody does,
never mind.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-05-06 Thread K. Peachey 
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Andrew Garrett  wrote:
> What does this mean?
i believe that might a comment regarding tables having a border
defined in html or not.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-05-06 Thread Andrew Garrett 
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:16 PM,   wrote:
> $ w3m -dump http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annette_Bening |egrep -i 
> thethe\|start|head -n 4
>           J. Steven White (m. 1984–1991) «start: (1984)–end+1: (1992)»"
>           Warren Beatty (m. 1992–present) «start: (1992)»"Marriage: Warren
> 1988 TheThe Great       Kate Craig
>     Grifters, TheThe   Myra           for Best Supporting Actress

What does this mean?

-- 
Andrew Garrett
Wikimedia Foundation
agarr...@wikimedia.org

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-05-06 Thread jidanni 
$ w3m -dump http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annette_Bening |egrep -i 
thethe\|start|head -n 4
   J. Steven White (m. 1984–1991) «start: (1984)–end+1: (1992)»"
   Warren Beatty (m. 1992–present) «start: (1992)»"Marriage: Warren
1988 TheThe Great   Kate Craig
 Grifters, TheThe   Myra   for Best Supporting Actress

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-04-29 Thread Platonides 
jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#CSS
>> MediaWiki is compatible with user agents which do not process CSS3
>> markup. Some additional features are available to browsers which can
>> process these styles.
> I.e., tough luck for browsers who can't.
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 etc. etc.
>> JavaScript
>> MediaWiki is accessible to user agents which do not process
>> JavaScript. MediaWiki degrades gracefully and all essential
>> functionality works without JavaScript, although some things might be
>> less convenient.
> Like no Site Notices. Oh, that's Wikipedia, not Mediawiki.
>> Text-only browsers
>> MediaWiki is accessible to text-only user agents such as Lynx, and to
>> interpreters such as JAWS. Some functionality is reduced.
> ...to the point that you can take your business elsewhere.
> < Like what?
> Dig through my closed invalid etc. bugs.
> 
> Why don't you add:
> 
> In general the attitude here at MediaWiki is you are crazy for not using
> what we here at MediaWiki expect a browser to be. Even if making our
> stuff work fully via pure HTML would allow for machine processing and
> more devices etc... who know what the future might offer.

You forgot to mention that the images should be converted to ascii art
before sending to the browser, for greater compatibility.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-04-28 Thread jidanni 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#CSS
> MediaWiki is compatible with user agents which do not process CSS3
> markup. Some additional features are available to browsers which can
> process these styles.
I.e., tough luck for browsers who can't.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26266 etc. etc.
> JavaScript
> MediaWiki is accessible to user agents which do not process
> JavaScript. MediaWiki degrades gracefully and all essential
> functionality works without JavaScript, although some things might be
> less convenient.
Like no Site Notices. Oh, that's Wikipedia, not Mediawiki.
> Text-only browsers
> MediaWiki is accessible to text-only user agents such as Lynx, and to
> interpreters such as JAWS. Some functionality is reduced.
...to the point that you can take your business elsewhere.
< Like what?
Dig through my closed invalid etc. bugs.

Why don't you add:

In general the attitude here at MediaWiki is you are crazy for not using
what we here at MediaWiki expect a browser to be. Even if making our
stuff work fully via pure HTML would allow for machine processing and
more devices etc... who know what the future might offer.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-04-28 Thread Niklas Laxström 
On 29 April 2011 04:13, Ryan Kaldari  wrote:
> Ha! That's awesome. Yeah our internal search isn't always up to snuff.
> Speaking of which, anyone know any good Java developers? Now that
> Rainman is gone(?), we need to find more people to help work on Lucene.

Just FYI that I've been studying Lucene and the Lucene-search
extension because of my thesis.

  -Niklas

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-04-28 Thread Ryan Kaldari 
Ha! That's awesome. Yeah our internal search isn't always up to snuff. 
Speaking of which, anyone know any good Java developers? Now that 
Rainman is gone(?), we need to find more people to help work on Lucene.

Kaldari

On 4/28/11 5:36 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
> Ryan Kaldari wrote:
>> I guess no one knew about that page. When I searched for 'supported
>> browsers', all I found was
>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Backward_compatibility#Compatibility_with_old_br
>> owsers
>>
>> Oh well, if someone wants merge them, go for it.
> For what it's worth:
> 
>
> (Compatibility#Browser is the second result for me.)
>
> Internal search could still use a lot of improvement. :-)
>
> MZMcBride
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-04-28 Thread MZMcBride 
Ryan Kaldari wrote:
> I guess no one knew about that page. When I searched for 'supported
> browsers', all I found was
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Backward_compatibility#Compatibility_with_old_br
> owsers
> 
> Oh well, if someone wants merge them, go for it.

For what it's worth:


(Compatibility#Browser is the second result for me.)

Internal search could still use a lot of improvement. :-)

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-04-28 Thread Ryan Kaldari 
I guess no one knew about that page. When I searched for 'supported 
browsers', all I found was 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Backward_compatibility#Compatibility_with_old_browsers

Oh well, if someone wants merge them, go for it.

Ryan Kaldari


On 4/28/11 3:37 PM, K. Peachey wrote:
> Why create yet another list?, we already have
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#Browser 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-04-28 Thread Chad 
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:37 PM, K. Peachey  wrote:
> Why create yet another list?, we already have
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#Browser 
>

+1. We should keep that all on one page :)

-Chad

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-04-28 Thread K. Peachey 
Why create yet another list?, we already have
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#Browser 

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[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Supported Browser List

2011-04-28 Thread Trevor Parscal 
After the question came up a few times, Ryan Kaldari and I decided to
document the official list of supported browsers and the information and
logic that surrounds this topic.

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Supported_browsers

- Trevor
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