Re: [Wikitech-l] Page view stats

2014-06-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 11:36 +0900, ikuyamada wrote:
 It seems that the page view stats have not been uploaded for several days.
 http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2014/
 
 Are there any plans to fix this?

See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65978

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[Wikitech-l] Page view stats

2014-06-01 Thread ikuyamada
Hello,

It seems that the page view stats have not been uploaded for several days.
http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2014/

Are there any plans to fix this?

Thanks.

Ikuya

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[Wikitech-l] Page view stats failure

2013-07-23 Thread Ikuya Yamada
Hello,

It seems that the page view statistics data does not contain the
actual data for the last few hours.

http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2013/2013-07/

Are there any failures on the server-side?

Thanks,
Ikuya

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Page view stats failure

2013-07-23 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Jul 24, 2013 12:43 AM, Ikuya Yamada ik...@sfc.keio.ac.jp wrote:
 It seems that the page view statistics data does not contain the
 actual data for the last few hours.

 http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2013/2013-07/

 Are there any failures on the server-side?

Just looking at file sizes I can see 15, 16, and 20-05(the current hour)
UTC all look smaller than normal. (yes, something's broken)

-Jeremy
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[Wikitech-l] Page view stats we can believe in

2013-02-13 Thread Lars Aronsson

I stumbled on the Danish Wiktionary, of all projects.
Danish is the 68th biggest language of Wiktionary, and
has a little more than 8,000 articles in total.
Most of these articles are very short and provide no
value to a reader. There is no reason to link to them,
and so very unlikely that the next user should stumble
upon them unless they are me.

Yet, wikistats tries to make be believe that this tiny
project has 400,000 or 500,000 page views each month,
and has had so for a long time,
http://stats.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthly.htm

(I'm not talking about January 2012, which seems to have
been an error, and reports 2-3 times that many views.)

My guess is that da.wiktionary has 4,000 page views per
month, not 400,000. It's more likely that 400,000 is
some background noise, an offset number that should be
subtracted from the number of page views for any project.

If you look at the log files for just one day, you should
see my IP address (85.228.something) and 3-4 other users
who have been editing lately, and not many more people,
but perhaps a bunch of interwiki bots.

We need an explanation to these vastly inflated page view
statistics.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Page view stats we can believe in

2013-02-13 Thread rupert THURNER
acording to http://stats.grok.se/da.d/latest90/mandag has been viewed
127 times in the last 3 months, and ranks on 927. the raw pagecount
files are here:
http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/

i then took an arbitrary file and looked into it, at midnight, i guess
UTC, feb 1st. as all projects are in this file, lets grep for danish
wiktionary, da.d  at the beginning of the line:

grep '^da\.d\s' pagecounts-20130201-00  | wc
5692276   19572

this means 569 pages accessed in this hour, at least once. so lets
sort by third column, which is the page accesses. largest access are
at the bottom, so lets take the last 20 lines:

grep '^da\.d\s' pagecounts-20130201-00  | sort -k3n,3 | tail -20
da.d pony 2 30008
da.d skak 2 44151
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/engelsk 2 7818
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/hyle 2 4630
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/krog 2 4632
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/skaml%C3%A6ber 2 4632
da.d Forside 3 96050
da.d horse 3 54974
da.d interessant 3 9339
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/arrang%C3%B8rer 3 6948
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/b%C3%B8ger 3 6948
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/forg%C3%A6ves 3 6946
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/hensigtsm%C3%A6ssig 3 6946
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/hvad 3 9900
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/indvendig 3 6948
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/k%C3%A6le 3 6948
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/monogame 3 6944
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/revet 3 6946
da.d Speciel:Eksporter/topstykke 3 6944
da.d springer 3 45292

this means that e.g. springer was supposedly accessed 3 times in
that hour. the article does not exist, but there is a red link out of
http://da.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Top_1_(Dansk).

rupert.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote:
 I stumbled on the Danish Wiktionary, of all projects.
 Danish is the 68th biggest language of Wiktionary, and
 has a little more than 8,000 articles in total.
 Most of these articles are very short and provide no
 value to a reader. There is no reason to link to them,
 and so very unlikely that the next user should stumble
 upon them unless they are me.

 Yet, wikistats tries to make be believe that this tiny
 project has 400,000 or 500,000 page views each month,
 and has had so for a long time,
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthly.htm

 (I'm not talking about January 2012, which seems to have
 been an error, and reports 2-3 times that many views.)

 My guess is that da.wiktionary has 4,000 page views per
 month, not 400,000. It's more likely that 400,000 is
 some background noise, an offset number that should be
 subtracted from the number of page views for any project.

 If you look at the log files for just one day, you should
 see my IP address (85.228.something) and 3-4 other users
 who have been editing lately, and not many more people,
 but perhaps a bunch of interwiki bots.

 We need an explanation to these vastly inflated page view
 statistics.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Page view stats we can believe in

2013-02-13 Thread Lars Aronsson

On 02/14/2013 12:03 AM, rupert THURNER wrote:

this means 569 pages accessed in this hour, at least once.


Thanks for taking the time to do this check! This
number already is unreasonable for an obscure project
with 8000 articles.


da.d Speciel:Eksporter/engelsk 2 7818


Should Special:Export ever count as page views?
Anyway, there are no humans using Special:Export
on da.wiktionary in the middle of the night.


this means that e.g. springer was supposedly accessed 3 times in
that hour. the article does not exist, but there is a red link out of
http://da.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Top_1_(Dansk).


So are there some stupid bots that follow red links?
There could be a large number of such accesses
on Wiktionary (in any language) because there
are so many red links. But bots should never be
counted among the page views.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Page view stats we can believe in

2013-02-13 Thread Diederik van Liere
Hi all,

Lars, Rupert thanks for flagging this and you are quite right: the numbers
are too high because webstatscollector, the software that does the counts,
just counts every request as a hit including bots, error pages etc.

I am planning on running a sprint at the Amsterdam Hackathon to built an
easy queryable datastore with clean pageview counts. Please let me know if
you are interested in this so I can pitch this.

Best,
Diederik


On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote:

 On 02/14/2013 12:03 AM, rupert THURNER wrote:

 this means 569 pages accessed in this hour, at least once.


 Thanks for taking the time to do this check! This
 number already is unreasonable for an obscure project
 with 8000 articles.


  da.d Speciel:Eksporter/engelsk 2 7818


 Should Special:Export ever count as page views?
 Anyway, there are no humans using Special:Export
 on da.wiktionary in the middle of the night.


  this means that e.g. springer was supposedly accessed 3 times in
 that hour. the article does not exist, but there is a red link out of
 http://da.wiktionary.org/wiki/**Wiktionary:Top_1_(Dansk)http://da.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Top_1_(Dansk)
 .


 So are there some stupid bots that follow red links?
 There could be a large number of such accesses
 on Wiktionary (in any language) because there
 are so many red links. But bots should never be
 counted among the page views.



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[Wikitech-l] 'Page View' Stats for the Timed Media Handler

2013-02-13 Thread Matthew Walker
Greetings all,

Victor is releasing a video tomorrow for valentines day and whilst I was
discussing it with him, the topic of how many users actually watch our
videos came up. Do we currently have a way of collecting play/click stats
for content played by the TimedMediaHandler off of commons?

If not, does anyone have any ideas on how to go about getting this
information?

~Matt Walker
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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-16 Thread Ikuya Yamada
2011/11/13 Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org (mailto:ar...@wikimedia.org):
 Στις 09-11-2011, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 10:07 -0500, ο/η Sean Timm έγραψε:
  On 11/9/2011 8:21 AM, Ikuya Yamada wrote:
I had thought to do a daily update.  If it turns out that hourly updates
are indeed useful, I'll set that up.  I don't know of anyone else that
has a current mirror.
 


   I had been using the hourly updated data previously provided
   in dammit.lt (http://dammit.lt) in order to detect the real-time trending 
   topics in
   Wikipedia. It is highly accurate and it seems that the data can
   be used for various use cases.

   So, I'd greatly appreciate it if you set it up.

   Thanks,
   Ikuya

   
   
  That is my use case as well.
   
  Thanks,
  Sean
   
  
  
 The files should now be available automatically within the hour.
  
 Ariel

Thanks!
But it seems that the update of pagecounts files is stopped for the
past few hours. Is this a temporary problem?

Thanks,
Ikuya


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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-16 Thread Ariel T. Glenn

 Thanks!
 But it seems that the update of pagecounts files is stopped for the
 past few hours. Is this a temporary problem?
 
 Thanks,
 Ikuya

Yes, very temporary.  A mistaken side-effect of taking Domas' server out
of the loop; fixed.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-16 Thread Fred Zimmerman
very cool! is there a readme or project page somewhere that explains what
all these files are?

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote:


  Thanks!
  But it seems that the update of pagecounts files is stopped for the
  past few hours. Is this a temporary problem?
 
  Thanks,
  Ikuya

 Yes, very temporary.  A mistaken side-effect of taking Domas' server out
 of the loop; fixed.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-16 Thread Ariel T. Glenn
Yes, the index page :-P ;-) 

http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/

Perhaps you have specific questions that aren't answered here?  If so,
spill 'em and we'll try to add that information or links to it.

Ariel

Στις 16-11-2011, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 13:58 -0500, ο/η Fred Zimmerman
έγραψε:
 very cool! is there a readme or project page somewhere that explains what
 all these files are?
 
 On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
 
   Thanks!
   But it seems that the update of pagecounts files is stopped for the
   past few hours. Is this a temporary problem?
  
   Thanks,
   Ikuya
 
  Yes, very temporary.  A mistaken side-effect of taking Domas' server out
  of the loop; fixed.
 
  Ariel
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-16 Thread Fred Zimmerman
blush. I just found that page. I was spending all my time looking at the
directory of the derived products. got it!


On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Yes, the index page :-P ;-)

 http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/

 Perhaps you have specific questions that aren't answered here?  If so,
 spill 'em and we'll try to add that information or links to it.

 Ariel

 Στις 16-11-2011, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 13:58 -0500, ο/η Fred Zimmerman
 έγραψε:
  very cool! is there a readme or project page somewhere that explains what
  all these files are?
 
  On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:
 
  
Thanks!
But it seems that the update of pagecounts files is stopped for the
past few hours. Is this a temporary problem?
   
Thanks,
Ikuya
  
   Yes, very temporary.  A mistaken side-effect of taking Domas' server
 out
   of the loop; fixed.
  
   Ariel
  
  
  
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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-16 Thread Fred Zimmerman
Has anyone already done the work of determining which pages are fastest
movers in a way that can be shared? comparing the hour over hour stats for
each page would require a lot of resources ...


On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Yes, the index page :-P ;-)

 http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/

 Perhaps you have specific questions that aren't answered here?  If so,
 spill 'em and we'll try to add that information or links to it.

 Ariel

 Στις 16-11-2011, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 13:58 -0500, ο/η Fred Zimmerman
 έγραψε:
  very cool! is there a readme or project page somewhere that explains what
  all these files are?
 
  On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:
 
  
Thanks!
But it seems that the update of pagecounts files is stopped for the
past few hours. Is this a temporary problem?
   
Thanks,
Ikuya
  
   Yes, very temporary.  A mistaken side-effect of taking Domas' server
 out
   of the loop; fixed.
  
   Ariel
  
  
  
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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-12 Thread Ariel T. Glenn
Στις 09-11-2011, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 10:07 -0500, ο/η Sean Timm έγραψε:
 On 11/9/2011 8:21 AM, Ikuya Yamada wrote:
  I had thought to do a daily update.  If it turns out that hourly updates
  are indeed useful, I'll set that up.  I don't know of anyone else that
  has a current mirror.
 
  I had been using the hourly updated data previously provided
  in dammit.lt in order to detect the real-time trending topics in
  Wikipedia. It is highly accurate and it seems that the data can
  be used for various use cases.
 
  So, I'd greatly appreciate it if you set it up.
 
  Thanks,
  Ikuya
 
 That is my use case as well.
 
 Thanks,
 Sean

The files should now be available automatically within the hour.

Ariel


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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-09 Thread Ikuya Yamada
 I had thought to do a daily update.  If it turns out that hourly updates
 are indeed useful, I'll set that up.  I don't know of anyone else that
 has a current mirror.

I had been using the hourly updated data previously provided
in dammit.lt in order to detect the real-time trending topics in
Wikipedia. It is highly accurate and it seems that the data can
be used for various use cases.

So, I'd greatly appreciate it if you set it up.

Thanks,
Ikuya

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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-09 Thread Sean Timm
On 11/9/2011 8:21 AM, Ikuya Yamada wrote:
 I had thought to do a daily update.  If it turns out that hourly updates
 are indeed useful, I'll set that up.  I don't know of anyone else that
 has a current mirror.

 I had been using the hourly updated data previously provided
 in dammit.lt in order to detect the real-time trending topics in
 Wikipedia. It is highly accurate and it seems that the data can
 be used for various use cases.

 So, I'd greatly appreciate it if you set it up.

 Thanks,
 Ikuya

That is my use case as well.

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-07 Thread Sean Timm
Ariel T. Glenn ariel at wikimedia.org writes:

 
 I think we finally have a complete copy from December 2007 through
 August 2011 of the pageview stats scrounged from various sources, now
 available on our dumps server.  
 
 See http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/
 
 Ariel
 


This is very cool.  Thanks for the work, Ariel.  I'm interested to look at the
historical data.

It appears that page view data is pushed to dumps.wikimedia.org daily.  
dammit.lt
used to push page view stats hourly, but it appears to be down now.  Are hourly
pushes still available somewhere?

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-07 Thread Ariel T. Glenn
Στις 07-11-2011, ημέρα Δευ, και ώρα 18:41 +, ο/η Sean Timm έγραψε:
 Ariel T. Glenn ariel at wikimedia.org writes:
 
  
  I think we finally have a complete copy from December 2007 through
  August 2011 of the pageview stats scrounged from various sources, now
  available on our dumps server.  
  
  See http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/
  
  Ariel
  
 
 
 This is very cool.  Thanks for the work, Ariel.  I'm interested to look at the
 historical data.
 
 It appears that page view data is pushed to dumps.wikimedia.org daily.  
 dammit.lt
 used to push page view stats hourly, but it appears to be down now.  Are 
 hourly
 pushes still available somewhere?
 
 Thanks,
 Sean

I had thought to do a daily update.  If it turns out that hourly updates
are indeed useful, I'll set that up.  I don't know of anyone else that
has a current mirror.

Ariel




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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-11-07 Thread Domas Mituzas
Hi!

 I had thought to do a daily update.  If it turns out that hourly updates
 are indeed useful, I'll set that up.  I don't know of anyone else that
 has a current mirror.

Yeh, don't believe anything I say, wait for someone on mailing list to tell you 
the same to make conclusions. 

Domas
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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-09-18 Thread Harry Burt
Ariel T. Glenn wrote:
 I think we finally have a complete copy from December 2007 through
 August 2011 of the pageview stats scrounged from various sources, now
 available on our dumps server.

Great news!

I do think there should be a note about the systemic under-reporting
that made statistics from the last quarter of 2009 and first half of
2010 unreliable, however.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-09-18 Thread Ariel T. Glenn
Yes, and I've already been getting the information on that together so
it can be documented. :-)

Ariel

Στις 18-09-2011, ημέρα Κυρ, και ώρα 11:55 +0100, ο/η Harry Burt έγραψε:
 Ariel T. Glenn wrote:
  I think we finally have a complete copy from December 2007 through
  August 2011 of the pageview stats scrounged from various sources, now
  available on our dumps server.
 
 Great news!
 
 I do think there should be a note about the systemic under-reporting
 that made statistics from the last quarter of 2009 and first half of
 2010 unreliable, however.
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-09-18 Thread emijrp
Thanks Ariel. That is important data to preserve.

2011/9/15 Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org

 I think we finally have a complete copy from December 2007 through
 August 2011 of the pageview stats scrounged from various sources, now
 available on our dumps server.

 See http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/

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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-09-16 Thread Diederik van Liere
This is really cool! Thanks Ariel and team for making this available.
best,
Diederik

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:16 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
 Ariel T. Glenn wrote:
 I think we finally have a complete copy from December 2007 through
 August 2011 of the pageview stats scrounged from various sources, now
 available on our dumps server.

 See http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/

 This is a great step in the right direction! Thanks!

 MZMcBride



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[Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-09-15 Thread Ariel T. Glenn
I think we finally have a complete copy from December 2007 through
August 2011 of the pageview stats scrounged from various sources, now
available on our dumps server.  

See http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/

Ariel




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Re: [Wikitech-l] page view stats redux

2011-09-15 Thread MZMcBride
Ariel T. Glenn wrote:
 I think we finally have a complete copy from December 2007 through
 August 2011 of the pageview stats scrounged from various sources, now
 available on our dumps server.
 
 See http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/

This is a great step in the right direction! Thanks!

MZMcBride



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