Re: [Wikitech-l] Spamming in mailing lists
2013/12/14 Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com causes another problem: I usually receive e-mails with this subject because I'm a moderator in wikifa-l: Wikifa-l post from x...@yy.com requires approval and the text of the e-mail is the text of that e-mail which is obviously spam, so gmail usually consider this mail as spam and after a while It consider wikifa-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org as spammer and that's bad sometimes that become worse and gmail consider the whole lists.wikimedia.org as spammer) and honestly I'm frustrated of discarding spams By the time some better solution will be available, all moderators using gmail should filter these messages as never spam. As Wikipedia is treated in a special way in Google search result lists, I can imagine that their staff would be willing to treat @wikimedia.org in a special way, too, if the Foundation asked them to do so as we are important for them. That wouldn't globally solve the spam-related problems of the whole Internet community and some might say it isn't thus fair play, but might be a good solution. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Spamming in mailing lists
On Sat, 2013-12-14 at 10:28 +0330, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: public mailing lists (even sometimes private ones) are target of non-stop spamming. As Nemo already wrote, there are some (technical) comments in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56525 available. Another thing: GNU mailman has introduced a spam-filtering system In which version? , but I think we haven't updated to that version and our version is 2.1.13 which is released in 2009-12-22 [2] and last stable version of GNU mailman has been released in 23-Nov-2013 [3]. Is there any reason for not updating? See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50864#c5 on a related note. andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Spamming in mailing lists
Hello, public mailing lists (even sometimes private ones) are target of non-stop spamming. Some mailing lists decided to discard any mails from non-members (that is not good, LGBT mailing has recently decided this but admins were have to do it because of spams and they don't want this) but some mailing list decided to use moderator (and that causes another problem: I usually receive e-mails with this subject because I'm a moderator in wikifa-l: Wikifa-l post from x...@yy.com requires approval and the text of the e-mail is the text of that e-mail which is obviously spam, so gmail usually consider this mail as spam and after a while It consider wikifa-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org as spammer and that's bad sometimes that become worse and gmail consider the whole lists.wikimedia.org as spammer) and honestly I'm frustrated of discarding spams We really need to define a method to filter spams. specially a central place to kill every e-mail that has been sent to more than three mailing list or so many other methods. there are several methods [1] Another thing: GNU mailman has introduced a spam-filtering system, but I think we haven't updated to that version and our version is 2.1.13 which is released in 2009-12-22 [2] and last stable version of GNU mailman has been released in 23-Nov-2013 [3]. Is there any reason for not updating? [1]: https://www.google.com/search?q=spam+detecting+algorithmie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a#q=spam+filtering+algorithmrls=org.mozilla:en-US:official [2]: https://launchpad.net/mailman/2.1 [3]: https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/ Best -- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Spamming in mailing lists
Recent discussion of this is at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56525 TL;DR: we have spamassassin but configuration is tricky; if you're a tech-inclined list admin, play with your list's X-Spam-Score config and let others know on bugzilla what worked. Nemo ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Spamming in mailing lists
We can run an analyze on known spams (that we are receiving) and ordinary mails and see what's the best score. Don't need an admin access and wait and see which score is better. i.e. I've admin access in several mailing lists but I don't like to test on them like lab rat Best On 12/14/13, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Recent discussion of this is at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56525 TL;DR: we have spamassassin but configuration is tricky; if you're a tech-inclined list admin, play with your list's X-Spam-Score config and let others know on bugzilla what worked. Nemo ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
