Re: [Wikitech-l] Tuesday Apr 29 - MediaWiki libraries components

2014-04-29 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
This is in about 10 minutes.
-Sumana

On 04/25/2014 01:27 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
 This is on a Tuesday at 2200 UTC - note the change!
 
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2014-04-29
 
 We'll discuss Ryan Lane's proposal (better handling and versioning
 libraries that are MW extensions) and Tyler Romeo's proposal (replacing
 some MW components with more widely used libraries, especially Symfony
 libraries). Please comment, and look at Jeroen De Dauw's proposal for
 extension management with Composer, in advance.
 
 * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_libraries
 *
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Third-party_components
 *
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Extension_management_with_Composer
 
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Tuesday Apr 29 - MediaWiki libraries components

2014-04-29 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Cross-posting to mediawiki-l and mediawiki-enterprise, as I should have
done initially.

On 04/25/2014 01:36 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
 On 04/25/2014 01:27 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
 
 We'll discuss Ryan Lane's proposal (better handling and versioning
 libraries that are MW extensions) and Tyler Romeo's proposal (replacing
 some MW components with more widely used libraries, especially Symfony
 libraries). Please comment, and look at Jeroen De Dauw's proposal for
 extension management with Composer, in advance.

I'm sorry for misattributing! Extension management with Composer is by
Markus Glaser, not Jeroen De Dauw.

 * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_libraries
 *
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Third-party_components
 *
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Extension_management_with_Composer
 
 Relatedly - take a look at Bryan Davis's
 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/119939/ Add Composer managed
 libraries changeset (part of the structured logging work).

Summary  logs of our meeting are up at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2014-04-29#Summary_and_logs
.

We have some open questions for Markus regarding Composer, and for
administrators of MediaWiki installations. Would Composer work in your
environment?

And it sounds like we only want to replace an artisanal, homegrown
MediaWiki component with an externally maintained library if the feature
is complicated, upstream is friendly and responsive and aligned with us,
and so on, on a case-by-case basis.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/119939/ still needs review.

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Sumana Harihareswara
Senior Technical Writer
Wikimedia Foundation

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[Wikitech-l] Tuesday Apr 29 - MediaWiki libraries components

2014-04-25 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
This is on a Tuesday at 2200 UTC - note the change!

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2014-04-29

We'll discuss Ryan Lane's proposal (better handling and versioning
libraries that are MW extensions) and Tyler Romeo's proposal (replacing
some MW components with more widely used libraries, especially Symfony
libraries). Please comment, and look at Jeroen De Dauw's proposal for
extension management with Composer, in advance.

* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_libraries
*
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Third-party_components
*
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Extension_management_with_Composer


When: Tuesday 22:00 UTC-23:00 UTC -
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=22min=00sec=0day=29month=04year=2014
  London 11pm
  Toronto 6pm
  Seattle 3pm
  Sydney 8am Wednesday
  Beijing 6am Wednesday

Where: Freenode IRC: #wikimedia-office
-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Senior Technical Writer
Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Tuesday Apr 29 - MediaWiki libraries components

2014-04-25 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 04/25/2014 01:27 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:

 We'll discuss Ryan Lane's proposal (better handling and versioning
 libraries that are MW extensions) and Tyler Romeo's proposal (replacing
 some MW components with more widely used libraries, especially Symfony
 libraries). Please comment, and look at Jeroen De Dauw's proposal for
 extension management with Composer, in advance.
 
 * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/MediaWiki_libraries
 *
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Third-party_components
 *
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Extension_management_with_Composer

Relatedly - take a look at Bryan Davis's
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/119939/ Add Composer managed
libraries changeset (part of the structured logging work).

-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Senior Technical Writer
Wikimedia Foundation

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