Re: [Wikitech-l] Using LanguageConverter for Portuguese Variants
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 19:19, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/9 Helder Geovane heldergeov...@gmail.com: Would a prototype wiki be a good place to make it possible for Portuguese community to test the Language Conversion in practice? Sounds good to me personally, although I'll ask some other people to weigh in. I personally like the idea of a world where the standard response to hey we wanna play with this thing and it's all coded up already is sure, lemme set you up with a prototype wiki. We are considering[1][2] the possibility of using the system to handle regional differences in the written Portuguese, but it seems that the editors need more contact with the system before they can decide in favour or agains an efective use of the conversion system at pt.wikipedia. We have made some drafts of the PHP code[3] which is needed to start, and set of possible global conversion rules for some variants[4]. What should we do to have a prototype wiki for this, if that is possible? You should start with getting your code in SVN. If it is or can be written in a way that makes it easy to disable (or if there's some other caveat such as it not doing anything if the conversion tables are empty), it can be committed straight to trunk. If this is not possible, it can be put in a branch, but trunk would really be preferred here, and disableability should be relatively easy to accomplish. Then when it's agreed that this should go on a prototype wiki, Ryan or I will set up the wiki and configure it, and it'll be all yours. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) It seems to be sufficient to add set *$wgDisableLangConversion = true;* for Portuguese wikis while testing at a prototype wiki (there it would have it's default value [*=false]*). Would that be possible? There is also an open bug related to this variable: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18958 Helder ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Using LanguageConverter for Portuguese Variants
2010/8/9 Helder Geovane heldergeov...@gmail.com: It seems to be sufficient to add set *$wgDisableLangConversion = true;* for Portuguese wikis while testing at a prototype wiki (there it would have it's default value [*=false]*). Would that be possible? There is also an open bug related to this variable: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18958 From reading that and the commits involved, it seems $wgDisableLangConversion doesn't completely disable language conversion, so that may need to be fixed first. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Using LanguageConverter for Portuguese Variants
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:31, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/8/9 Helder Geovane heldergeov...@gmail.com:
It seems to be sufficient to add set *$wgDisableLangConversion = true;*
for
Portuguese wikis while testing at a prototype wiki (there it would have
it's
default value [*=false]*). Would that be possible?
There is also an open bug related to this variable:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18958
From reading that and the commits involved, it seems
$wgDisableLangConversion doesn't completely disable language
conversion, so that may need to be fixed first.
Roan Kattouw (Catrope)
If no one add rules to the MediaWiki:Conversiontable/pt-xyz tables and do
not add manual markup -{}- in the text, the language converter doesn't do
any conversion (at least it doesn't seems to do). But in this case we still
have the drop down menu at the top of the wiki pages (for variant selection)
and another at Special:Preferences. If we add $wgDisableLangConversion =
true; to LocalSettings.php then both menus are also disabled (they are not
shown), and so the feature seems to be completely disabled.
Does anybody know what would not be disabled with this setting?
Helder
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Using LanguageConverter for Portuguese Variants
2010/8/9 Helder Geovane heldergeov...@gmail.com: Would a prototype wiki be a good place to make it possible for Portuguese community to test the Language Conversion in practice? Sounds good to me personally, although I'll ask some other people to weigh in. I personally like the idea of a world where the standard response to hey we wanna play with this thing and it's all coded up already is sure, lemme set you up with a prototype wiki. We are considering[1][2] the possibility of using the system to handle regional differences in the written Portuguese, but it seems that the editors need more contact with the system before they can decide in favour or agains an efective use of the conversion system at pt.wikipedia. We have made some drafts of the PHP code[3] which is needed to start, and set of possible global conversion rules for some variants[4]. What should we do to have a prototype wiki for this, if that is possible? You should start with getting your code in SVN. If it is or can be written in a way that makes it easy to disable (or if there's some other caveat such as it not doing anything if the conversion tables are empty), it can be committed straight to trunk. If this is not possible, it can be put in a branch, but trunk would really be preferred here, and disableability should be relatively easy to accomplish. Then when it's agreed that this should go on a prototype wiki, Ryan or I will set up the wiki and configure it, and it'll be all yours. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
