Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata descriptions to show on mobile web Wikipedias
> this is something the reading and discovery teams can discuss off-list, I > think. What brings you to think this? :) -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata descriptions to show on mobile web Wikipedias Datum: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:33:59 +0100 Von: Jon Katz <jk...@wikimedia.org> An: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Hi Oliver, Thanks for bringing this up--this is something the reading and discovery teams can discuss off-list, I think. Best, J On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Oliver Keyes <oke...@wikimedia.org> wrote:> What was the involvement of the Discovery team, which runs innovation> around our search systems, in this decision?>> On 28 October 2015 at 22:50, Jon Katz <jk...@wikimedia.org> wrote:>> Hi All,>>>> TLDR: on the mobile web, Wikidata descriptions will appear under article>> titles in search results, nearby and watchlist starting tomorrow> afternoon>> (Thu, Oct 29) across projects. A 'kill switch' has been implemented so>> that this feature can be turned off if necessary.>>>> Background:>> In Q2 of last year, Wikidata descriptions were added to both our official>> apps: iOS and Android and resulted in wonderful qualitative feedback (as>> the discovery team knows, it is hard to define 'success' with search> (fewer>> searches, more searches?). Though moving Wikidata descriptions to search>> on mobile web was planned for Q3 of last year, it has been sitting in> beta>> for many months as there was so me concern that at scale on the web, it>> might prove to be an incentive to vandalize Wikidata (and article editors>> would not have an obvious, wikipedia way to undo such edits).>>>> Ultimately, we think that anything showing up on Wikipedia should be>> editable ON Wikipedia. Wikidata description editing is something we are>> going to aim for. Given the success of descriptions in search results on>> apps, we would rather move forward with the presentation and work> towards a>> goal of editing in-line than to hold up the entire thing based on a fear>> that might not be warranted. In consultation with the Wikidata team, we>> decided to move forward with pushing the feature to stable as long as we>> had the ability to pull the feature back if there were any issues.>>>> We are relying on community feedback to let us know if you have any> issues>> or hear from anyone that this is causing problems. Our community liaison>> team will be posting notices on village pumps shortly. Thanks!>>>> Best,>>>> Jon>> WMF Reading Product Lead>> ___>> Wikitech-l mailing list>> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l>>>> --> Oliver Keyes> Count Logula> Wikimedia Foundation>> ___> Wikitech-l mailing list> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata descriptions to show on mobile web Wikipedias
Hi Oliver, Thanks for bringing this up--this is something the reading and discovery teams can discuss off-list, I think. Best, J On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > What was the involvement of the Discovery team, which runs innovation > around our search systems, in this decision? > > On 28 October 2015 at 22:50, Jon Katz wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > TLDR: on the mobile web, Wikidata descriptions will appear under article > > titles in search results, nearby and watchlist starting tomorrow > afternoon > > (Thu, Oct 29) across projects. A 'kill switch' has been implemented so > > that this feature can be turned off if necessary. > > > > Background: > > In Q2 of last year, Wikidata descriptions were added to both our official > > apps: iOS and Android and resulted in wonderful qualitative feedback (as > > the discovery team knows, it is hard to define 'success' with search > (fewer > > searches, more searches?). Though moving Wikidata descriptions to search > > on mobile web was planned for Q3 of last year, it has been sitting in > beta > > for many months as there was some concern that at scale on the web, it > > might prove to be an incentive to vandalize Wikidata (and article editors > > would not have an obvious, wikipedia way to undo such edits). > > > > Ultimately, we think that anything showing up on Wikipedia should be > > editable ON Wikipedia. Wikidata description editing is something we are > > going to aim for. Given the success of descriptions in search results on > > apps, we would rather move forward with the presentation and work > towards a > > goal of editing in-line than to hold up the entire thing based on a fear > > that might not be warranted. In consultation with the Wikidata team, we > > decided to move forward with pushing the feature to stable as long as we > > had the ability to pull the feature back if there were any issues. > > > > We are relying on community feedback to let us know if you have any > issues > > or hear from anyone that this is causing problems. Our community liaison > > team will be posting notices on village pumps shortly. Thanks! > > > > Best, > > > > Jon > > WMF Reading Product Lead > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > -- > Oliver Keyes > Count Logula > Wikimedia Foundation > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata descriptions to show on mobile web Wikipedias
Request: for non-urgent, potentially high-impact changes, can notices to village pumps and mailing lists go out at least 3 weeks in advance to give the community opportunity to prepare and/or comment? I am not anticipating that we'll get meaningfully more mobile Web vandalism, but announcing non-urgent changes like this would be appreciated weeks in advance. Thanks, Pine On Oct 28, 2015 7:51 PM, "Jon Katz" wrote: > Hi All, > > TLDR: on the mobile web, Wikidata descriptions will appear under article > titles in search results, nearby and watchlist starting tomorrow afternoon > (Thu, Oct 29) across projects. A 'kill switch' has been implemented so > that this feature can be turned off if necessary. > > Background: > In Q2 of last year, Wikidata descriptions were added to both our official > apps: iOS and Android and resulted in wonderful qualitative feedback (as > the discovery team knows, it is hard to define 'success' with search (fewer > searches, more searches?). Though moving Wikidata descriptions to search > on mobile web was planned for Q3 of last year, it has been sitting in beta > for many months as there was some concern that at scale on the web, it > might prove to be an incentive to vandalize Wikidata (and article editors > would not have an obvious, wikipedia way to undo such edits). > > Ultimately, we think that anything showing up on Wikipedia should be > editable ON Wikipedia. Wikidata description editing is something we are > going to aim for. Given the success of descriptions in search results on > apps, we would rather move forward with the presentation and work towards a > goal of editing in-line than to hold up the entire thing based on a fear > that might not be warranted. In consultation with the Wikidata team, we > decided to move forward with pushing the feature to stable as long as we > had the ability to pull the feature back if there were any issues. > > We are relying on community feedback to let us know if you have any issues > or hear from anyone that this is causing problems. Our community liaison > team will be posting notices on village pumps shortly. Thanks! > > Best, > > Jon > WMF Reading Product Lead > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata descriptions to show on mobile web Wikipedias
What was the involvement of the Discovery team, which runs innovation around our search systems, in this decision? On 28 October 2015 at 22:50, Jon Katz wrote: > Hi All, > > TLDR: on the mobile web, Wikidata descriptions will appear under article > titles in search results, nearby and watchlist starting tomorrow afternoon > (Thu, Oct 29) across projects. A 'kill switch' has been implemented so > that this feature can be turned off if necessary. > > Background: > In Q2 of last year, Wikidata descriptions were added to both our official > apps: iOS and Android and resulted in wonderful qualitative feedback (as > the discovery team knows, it is hard to define 'success' with search (fewer > searches, more searches?). Though moving Wikidata descriptions to search > on mobile web was planned for Q3 of last year, it has been sitting in beta > for many months as there was some concern that at scale on the web, it > might prove to be an incentive to vandalize Wikidata (and article editors > would not have an obvious, wikipedia way to undo such edits). > > Ultimately, we think that anything showing up on Wikipedia should be > editable ON Wikipedia. Wikidata description editing is something we are > going to aim for. Given the success of descriptions in search results on > apps, we would rather move forward with the presentation and work towards a > goal of editing in-line than to hold up the entire thing based on a fear > that might not be warranted. In consultation with the Wikidata team, we > decided to move forward with pushing the feature to stable as long as we > had the ability to pull the feature back if there were any issues. > > We are relying on community feedback to let us know if you have any issues > or hear from anyone that this is causing problems. Our community liaison > team will be posting notices on village pumps shortly. Thanks! > > Best, > > Jon > WMF Reading Product Lead > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Oliver Keyes Count Logula Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Wikidata descriptions to show on mobile web Wikipedias
Hi All, TLDR: on the mobile web, Wikidata descriptions will appear under article titles in search results, nearby and watchlist starting tomorrow afternoon (Thu, Oct 29) across projects. A 'kill switch' has been implemented so that this feature can be turned off if necessary. Background: In Q2 of last year, Wikidata descriptions were added to both our official apps: iOS and Android and resulted in wonderful qualitative feedback (as the discovery team knows, it is hard to define 'success' with search (fewer searches, more searches?). Though moving Wikidata descriptions to search on mobile web was planned for Q3 of last year, it has been sitting in beta for many months as there was some concern that at scale on the web, it might prove to be an incentive to vandalize Wikidata (and article editors would not have an obvious, wikipedia way to undo such edits). Ultimately, we think that anything showing up on Wikipedia should be editable ON Wikipedia. Wikidata description editing is something we are going to aim for. Given the success of descriptions in search results on apps, we would rather move forward with the presentation and work towards a goal of editing in-line than to hold up the entire thing based on a fear that might not be warranted. In consultation with the Wikidata team, we decided to move forward with pushing the feature to stable as long as we had the ability to pull the feature back if there were any issues. We are relying on community feedback to let us know if you have any issues or hear from anyone that this is causing problems. Our community liaison team will be posting notices on village pumps shortly. Thanks! Best, Jon WMF Reading Product Lead ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
