Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikigalore

2010-02-28 Thread Happy-melon

Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote in message 
news:hm9rol$gt...@dough.gmane.org...
 The script in question is a proxy, not a mirror. Look, I can take it
 down for you right now just by tweaking our squid configuration...

 Better?

WIN!!  :-D

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[Wikitech-l] Wikigalore

2010-02-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
As far as leeches go, this takes the price as far as I am concerned. It
sells scripts to leech any Wikimedia project and all this to have the rating
of a website go up.

Is this the kind of outfit that we act upon .. That is for you to decide..
Thanks,
 GerardM


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikigalore

2010-02-26 Thread Thomas Dalton
I'm CCing this to Mike Godwin (I'm not sure he's on this list).

That site is full of our trademarks (names and logos) being used for
commercial gain. Something probably should be done about it.

On 26 February 2010 15:30, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hoi,
 As far as leeches go, this takes the price as far as I am concerned. It
 sells scripts to leech any Wikimedia project and all this to have the rating
 of a website go up.

 Is this the kind of outfit that we act upon .. That is for you to decide..
 Thanks,
     GerardM


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikigalore

2010-02-26 Thread Peter Kaminski
Gerard Meijssen writes,

 As far as leeches go, this takes the price as far as I am concerned. It
 sells scripts to leech any Wikimedia project and all this to have the rating
 of a website go up.
   

The best long-term solution would be to work with Google and other 
search engines to encourage them to efficiently recognize Wikimedia 
content and reduce rankings of sites mirroring it just for SEO.

It wouldn't make much sense to leech Wikimedia if it adversely affected 
site rankings.

Pete


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikigalore

2010-02-26 Thread Tei
On 27 February 2010 00:48, Peter Kaminski kamin...@istori.com wrote:
 Gerard Meijssen writes,

 As far as leeches go, this takes the price as far as I am concerned. It
 sells scripts to leech any Wikimedia project and all this to have the rating
 of a website go up.


 The best long-term solution would be to work with Google and other
 search engines to encourage them to efficiently recognize Wikimedia
 content and reduce rankings of sites mirroring it just for SEO.

 It wouldn't make much sense to leech Wikimedia if it adversely affected
 site rankings.

*cough*But... these sites make a service to wikipedia and the public
in general, creating multiple mirrors of articles. If wikipedia is
down, you can still read the articles elsewhere, if the articles are
deleted, you can read these articles on these sites*cough*



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikigalore

2010-02-26 Thread Tim Starling
Peter Kaminski wrote:
 The best long-term solution would be to work with Google and other 
 search engines to encourage them to efficiently recognize Wikimedia 
 content and reduce rankings of sites mirroring it just for SEO.

I've heard that Google have looked at ways to downrank mirrors, but
they don't think it's ethical to just penalise everything with a
domain name that doesn't end in wikipedia.org. As far as I'm aware,
the most obvious heuristic, covered in spammy ads, was not
considered. Presumably that could risk damaging their bottom line.


Tei wrote:
 *cough*But... these sites make a service to wikipedia and the public
 in general, creating multiple mirrors of articles. If wikipedia is
 down, you can still read the articles elsewhere, if the articles are
 deleted, you can read these articles on these sites*cough*

The script in question is a proxy, not a mirror. Look, I can take it
down for you right now just by tweaking our squid configuration...

Better?

-- Tim Starling


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