Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia App Reboots, HTTPS, and Wikipedia Zero (was Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikimedia Commons mobile photo uploader app updated on iOS and Android)
Okay, HTTPS contributory features are now introduced on the Wikipedia Zero mobile web experience for operators that zero-rate HTTPS. Thanks Brandon Black and Yuri Astrakhan for help on the final pieces! On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Another note in case you missed it earlier. If your'e looking in general to test the Wikipedia app reboot, at the moment the Android APK can be downloaded from https://releases.wikimedia.org/mobile/android/apps-android-wikipedia-sprint25.apkand bugs can be filed via Bugzilla. The iOS build is currently internal due to installation limits, although simulator and debugging stuff can be done on the latest beta of Xcode. I also forgot to mention my peer Yuri's great work! The guy knuckled down to considerably revise Varnish scripts, reviewed and helped me improve code, and offered really good advice on API-app interaction. Thanks Yuri! -Adam On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: I realized I should be clear that the rebooted apps I mention are the future Wikipedia mobile apps mentioned earlier in the thread. Sorry if any confusion. -Adam On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: +mobile-l Greetings. Rupert, an update! The rebooted Android (Android 2.3+) and iOS (iOS 6+) apps will have Wikipedia Zero flourishes built into them, making it possible for the user to know whether the app access is free of data usage charges. The rebooted apps are tentatively slated for store submission at the end of the month. The flourishes will hinge on each operator's zero-rating of HTTPS. Likewise, HTTPS contributory features are about to be introduced on the Wikipedia Zero mobile web experience as well for operators that zero-rate HTTPS. WMF is starting the work with partner operators to add support for zero-rating of HTTPS. There will be, at least, technical hurdles (networking equipment architecture varies) in this transition, but it's underway! Indeed, we have some carriers that have noted support for HTTPS zero-rating already. I'm very much grateful to Brion, Yuvi, and Monte for their assistance while I added code to the Android and iOS platforms, and am happy to get to work with them more while putting final touches in place this month. Props to Faidon, Mark, and Brandon in Ops Engineering as well on helping us overcome some rather non-trivial hurdles in order to retain good performance and maintainability while adding HTTPS support. -Adam On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Rupert, I saw your question regarding Wikipedia Zero. Wikipedia Zero is currently targeted for the mobile web, but I'll take this question back to the business team as to whether we'd be able to support zero-rating of apps traffic at some point in the future, at least in locales where moderate bandwidth is available. I think that once the zero-rating is switched to support HTTPS by using IP-based instead of Deep Packet Inspection-based HTTP sniffing, ISP partners wouldn't actually be able to distinguish between mobile web and mobile apps content unless we actively choose to make them use separate IPs and domain names. Especially if, as we think we're going to, the future Wikipedia mobile app will consist mostly of native code widgets and modules that plug into the web site embedded in a web control... it'll be loading mostly the same web pages from the same servers, but running a different mix of JavaScript. -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia App Reboots, HTTPS, and Wikipedia Zero (was Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikimedia Commons mobile photo uploader app updated on iOS and Android)
Thanks Adam for driving it and getting it done :) On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Okay, HTTPS contributory features are now introduced on the Wikipedia Zero mobile web experience for operators that zero-rate HTTPS. Thanks Brandon Black and Yuri Astrakhan for help on the final pieces! On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Another note in case you missed it earlier. If your'e looking in general to test the Wikipedia app reboot, at the moment the Android APK can be downloaded from https://releases.wikimedia.org/mobile/android/apps-android-wikipedia-sprint25.apkand bugs can be filed via Bugzilla. The iOS build is currently internal due to installation limits, although simulator and debugging stuff can be done on the latest beta of Xcode. I also forgot to mention my peer Yuri's great work! The guy knuckled down to considerably revise Varnish scripts, reviewed and helped me improve code, and offered really good advice on API-app interaction. Thanks Yuri! -Adam On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: I realized I should be clear that the rebooted apps I mention are the future Wikipedia mobile apps mentioned earlier in the thread. Sorry if any confusion. -Adam On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: +mobile-l Greetings. Rupert, an update! The rebooted Android (Android 2.3+) and iOS (iOS 6+) apps will have Wikipedia Zero flourishes built into them, making it possible for the user to know whether the app access is free of data usage charges. The rebooted apps are tentatively slated for store submission at the end of the month. The flourishes will hinge on each operator's zero-rating of HTTPS. Likewise, HTTPS contributory features are about to be introduced on the Wikipedia Zero mobile web experience as well for operators that zero-rate HTTPS. WMF is starting the work with partner operators to add support for zero-rating of HTTPS. There will be, at least, technical hurdles (networking equipment architecture varies) in this transition, but it's underway! Indeed, we have some carriers that have noted support for HTTPS zero-rating already. I'm very much grateful to Brion, Yuvi, and Monte for their assistance while I added code to the Android and iOS platforms, and am happy to get to work with them more while putting final touches in place this month. Props to Faidon, Mark, and Brandon in Ops Engineering as well on helping us overcome some rather non-trivial hurdles in order to retain good performance and maintainability while adding HTTPS support. -Adam On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Rupert, I saw your question regarding Wikipedia Zero. Wikipedia Zero is currently targeted for the mobile web, but I'll take this question back to the business team as to whether we'd be able to support zero-rating of apps traffic at some point in the future, at least in locales where moderate bandwidth is available. I think that once the zero-rating is switched to support HTTPS by using IP-based instead of Deep Packet Inspection-based HTTP sniffing, ISP partners wouldn't actually be able to distinguish between mobile web and mobile apps content unless we actively choose to make them use separate IPs and domain names. Especially if, as we think we're going to, the future Wikipedia mobile app will consist mostly of native code widgets and modules that plug into the web site embedded in a web control... it'll be loading mostly the same web pages from the same servers, but running a different mix of JavaScript. -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Wikipedia App Reboots, HTTPS, and Wikipedia Zero (was Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikimedia Commons mobile photo uploader app updated on iOS and Android)
Another note in case you missed it earlier. If your'e looking in general to test the Wikipedia app reboot, at the moment the Android APK can be downloaded from https://releases.wikimedia.org/mobile/android/apps-android-wikipedia-sprint25.apkand bugs can be filed via Bugzilla. The iOS build is currently internal due to installation limits, although simulator and debugging stuff can be done on the latest beta of Xcode. I also forgot to mention my peer Yuri's great work! The guy knuckled down to considerably revise Varnish scripts, reviewed and helped me improve code, and offered really good advice on API-app interaction. Thanks Yuri! -Adam On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: I realized I should be clear that the rebooted apps I mention are the future Wikipedia mobile apps mentioned earlier in the thread. Sorry if any confusion. -Adam On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: +mobile-l Greetings. Rupert, an update! The rebooted Android (Android 2.3+) and iOS (iOS 6+) apps will have Wikipedia Zero flourishes built into them, making it possible for the user to know whether the app access is free of data usage charges. The rebooted apps are tentatively slated for store submission at the end of the month. The flourishes will hinge on each operator's zero-rating of HTTPS. Likewise, HTTPS contributory features are about to be introduced on the Wikipedia Zero mobile web experience as well for operators that zero-rate HTTPS. WMF is starting the work with partner operators to add support for zero-rating of HTTPS. There will be, at least, technical hurdles (networking equipment architecture varies) in this transition, but it's underway! Indeed, we have some carriers that have noted support for HTTPS zero-rating already. I'm very much grateful to Brion, Yuvi, and Monte for their assistance while I added code to the Android and iOS platforms, and am happy to get to work with them more while putting final touches in place this month. Props to Faidon, Mark, and Brandon in Ops Engineering as well on helping us overcome some rather non-trivial hurdles in order to retain good performance and maintainability while adding HTTPS support. -Adam On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Adam Baso ab...@wikimedia.org wrote: Rupert, I saw your question regarding Wikipedia Zero. Wikipedia Zero is currently targeted for the mobile web, but I'll take this question back to the business team as to whether we'd be able to support zero-rating of apps traffic at some point in the future, at least in locales where moderate bandwidth is available. I think that once the zero-rating is switched to support HTTPS by using IP-based instead of Deep Packet Inspection-based HTTP sniffing, ISP partners wouldn't actually be able to distinguish between mobile web and mobile apps content unless we actively choose to make them use separate IPs and domain names. Especially if, as we think we're going to, the future Wikipedia mobile app will consist mostly of native code widgets and modules that plug into the web site embedded in a web control... it'll be loading mostly the same web pages from the same servers, but running a different mix of JavaScript. -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
