Re: [Wikitech-l] a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

[Oren Bochman]

The algorithm used to rank search results uses ... a variant of page rank
so the reasons may lay off the actual page.

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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
wrote:

> "Autopratica" is actually not a valid word: or rather, it's a neologism
> from a new/fringe theory, possibly grammatical thanks to the productivity
> of auto- but slightly confusing due to the jargon-meaning of "pratica" here.
>
> That said, the reason is surely in that link label, which is the only use
> of the word on the wiki.
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

"Autopratica" is actually not a valid word: or rather, it's a neologism 
from a new/fringe theory, possibly grammatical thanks to the 
productivity of auto- but slightly confusing due to the jargon-meaning 
of "pratica" here.


That said, the reason is surely in that link label, which is the only 
use of the word on the wiki.


Nemo

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Re: [Wikitech-l] a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

[Amir E. Aharoni]

Aha, this may be related.

An Italian Wikipedia found it puzzling.

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2012/9/16 Petr Onderka :
> I think it's related to the other search result (Fiori di Bach):
>
>> … necessarie per effettuare [[diagnosi|autodiagnosi]] e 
>> [[terapia|autopratica]].
>
> That article links to the article "Terapia", but the link text is 
> "autopratica",
> so, presumably, the search engine takes this to mean that
> "terapia" and "autopratica" are synonyms (or at least closely related).
>
> Petr Onderka
> [[en:User:Svick]]
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia,
>> the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word
>> doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
>>
>> [1] 
>> https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3ARicerca
>> [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
>>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

[Petr Onderka]

I think it's related to the other search result (Fiori di Bach):

> … necessarie per effettuare [[diagnosi|autodiagnosi]] e 
> [[terapia|autopratica]].

That article links to the article "Terapia", but the link text is "autopratica",
so, presumably, the search engine takes this to mean that
"terapia" and "autopratica" are synonyms (or at least closely related).

Petr Onderka
[[en:User:Svick]]

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia,
> the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word
> doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
>
> [1] 
> https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3ARicerca
> [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

[John]

sorry, should really double check my facts "Care" redirects not cure
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&langpair=auto|en&rurl=translate.google.com&tbb=1&twu=1&u=http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DSpeciale:PuntanoQui/Terapia%26hidelinks%3D1&usg=ALkJrhg95PI450ibQEbFfvza4EX5zR_uXQ

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
 wrote:
> I'm not sure that I understand what you mean.
>
>
> 2012/9/16 John :
>> That would be because the word cure is a redirect to that page
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
>>  wrote:
>>> My Italian is rusty, and I don't have a dictionary here, but if I have
>>> to guess, then I suppose that it means "self-curing". This may be
>>> related to therapy ("terapia"), but still, why does it show up in the
>>> results even though the word doesn't appear there?
>>>
>>> Does the Wikipedia search engine have clever handling of synonyms or
>>> related words? As far as I know it's quite basic, but I'll be happy to
>>> be surprised.
>>>
>>> Or does the word appear in an old version of a page? I couldn't find
>>> it in any recent version.
>>>
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>>>
>>> 2012/9/16 John :
 What does autopratica mean?

 On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia,
> the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word
> doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
>
> [1] 
> https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3ARicerca
> [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

[Amir E. Aharoni]

I'm not sure that I understand what you mean.


2012/9/16 John :
> That would be because the word cure is a redirect to that page
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
>  wrote:
>> My Italian is rusty, and I don't have a dictionary here, but if I have
>> to guess, then I suppose that it means "self-curing". This may be
>> related to therapy ("terapia"), but still, why does it show up in the
>> results even though the word doesn't appear there?
>>
>> Does the Wikipedia search engine have clever handling of synonyms or
>> related words? As far as I know it's quite basic, but I'll be happy to
>> be surprised.
>>
>> Or does the word appear in an old version of a page? I couldn't find
>> it in any recent version.
>>
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>>
>> 2012/9/16 John :
>>> What does autopratica mean?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
>>>  wrote:
 Hi,

 If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia,
 the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word
 doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?

 [1] 
 https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3ARicerca
 [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia

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Re: [Wikitech-l] a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

[John]

That would be because the word cure is a redirect to that page

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
 wrote:
> My Italian is rusty, and I don't have a dictionary here, but if I have
> to guess, then I suppose that it means "self-curing". This may be
> related to therapy ("terapia"), but still, why does it show up in the
> results even though the word doesn't appear there?
>
> Does the Wikipedia search engine have clever handling of synonyms or
> related words? As far as I know it's quite basic, but I'll be happy to
> be surprised.
>
> Or does the word appear in an old version of a page? I couldn't find
> it in any recent version.
>
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>
> 2012/9/16 John :
>> What does autopratica mean?
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia,
>>> the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word
>>> doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
>>>
>>> [1] 
>>> https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3ARicerca
>>> [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
>>>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

[Amir E. Aharoni]

My Italian is rusty, and I don't have a dictionary here, but if I have
to guess, then I suppose that it means "self-curing". This may be
related to therapy ("terapia"), but still, why does it show up in the
results even though the word doesn't appear there?

Does the Wikipedia search engine have clever handling of synonyms or
related words? As far as I know it's quite basic, but I'll be happy to
be surprised.

Or does the word appear in an old version of a page? I couldn't find
it in any recent version.

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2012/9/16 John :
> What does autopratica mean?
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia,
>> the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word
>> doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
>>
>> [1] 
>> https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3ARicerca
>> [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
>>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

[John]

What does autopratica mean?

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia,
> the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word
> doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?
>
> [1] 
> https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3ARicerca
> [2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia
>
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[Wikitech-l] a slightly weird search result in the Italian Wikipedia

[Amir E. Aharoni]

Hi,

If I search for the word "autopratica" [1] in the Italian Wikipedia,
the article "Terapia" [2] comes up as the first result. That word
doesn't appear in that article. Why does it appear in the results?

[1] 
https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=autopratica&title=Speciale%3ARicerca
[2] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terapia

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