Re: [Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Aryeh Gregor > wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:28 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > > How about creating something like [[Mediawiki:Nstab-mainpage]] which > > would work the same way as [[Mediawiki:Nstab-main]] thus removing any > > need for a paser-function ect, although it might not work for people > > that redirect their Main Page to some other name. > > It seems unjustifiably narrow. > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > Indeed. We wouldn't even be having this conversation if people were content with leaving nstab-main set to something that makes sense for all pages in ns-0. Fwiw, I disagree with the parser function too, as it will generate needless confusion. The entire point of the nstab- messages are to give a consistent tab name for all pages in a given namespace. Once you introduce the ability to customize it per page, you ruin its original meaning. -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:28 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > How about creating something like [[Mediawiki:Nstab-mainpage]] which > would work the same way as [[Mediawiki:Nstab-main]] thus removing any > need for a paser-function ect, although it might not work for people > that redirect their Main Page to some other name. It seems unjustifiably narrow. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching
How about creating something like [[Mediawiki:Nstab-mainpage]] which would work the same way as [[Mediawiki:Nstab-main]] thus removing any need for a paser-function ect, although it might not work for people that redirect their Main Page to some other name. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching
On 1/7/09 2:26 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: >> Hmm, this would require either parsing the page when you're on 'edit', >> 'history', 'watch' or other tabs, or storing that info elsewhere. >> Further requiring it to set both the article and the talk tabs means >> they can be inconsistent between the subject and talk pages. > > It could be stored in the page_props table. This is the kind of thing > it's for, really. In fact, display title could be stored there as > well -- that would make that feature a lot nicer and cleaner without > requiring schema changes. H, that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > Hmm, this would require either parsing the page when you're on 'edit', > 'history', 'watch' or other tabs, or storing that info elsewhere. > Further requiring it to set both the article and the talk tabs means > they can be inconsistent between the subject and talk pages. It could be stored in the page_props table. This is the kind of thing it's for, really. In fact, display title could be stored there as well -- that would make that feature a lot nicer and cleaner without requiring schema changes. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching
On 1/6/09 7:39 PM, Tim Starling wrote:
> Remember the dot wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> The discussion about nstab-main and the main page has flared up again:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Common.js#Main_Page_tab
>>
>> It was suggested in bug 14267 that the contents of nstab-main could be
>> cached with the page title, so that we could include a ParserFunctions
>> workaround in it without having the parser function execute on every page
>> load. What are your opinions on this?
>>
>> See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14267#c5
>
> I think a parser function that sets tab text directly would be better,
> e.g. {{#settab:nstab|Main Page}}{{#settab:talk|Main Page discussion}}
Hmm, this would require either parsing the page when you're on 'edit',
'history', 'watch' or other tabs, or storing that info elsewhere.
Further requiring it to set both the article and the talk tabs means
they can be inconsistent between the subject and talk pages.
-- brion
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Re: [Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching
"Aryeh Gregor" wrote in message news:7c2a12e20901071221w43eef7b5ld19e3ba47760d...@mail.gmail.com... > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Mark Clements (HappyDog) > wrote: >> And that should be in an extension. > > Probably ParserFunctions. I think not. ParserFunctions should not have interface-specific code. It could be a dedicated 'CustomiseTabs' extension, or a more general 'InterfaceTweaks' extension (which will allow for other UI modifiers to be added). - Mark Clements (HappyDog) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Mark Clements (HappyDog) wrote: > And that should be in an extension. Probably ParserFunctions. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching
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> Remember the dot wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> The discussion about nstab-main and the main page has flared up again:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Common.js#Main_Page_tab
>>
>> It was suggested in bug 14267 that the contents of nstab-main could be
>> cached with the page title, so that we could include a ParserFunctions
>> workaround in it without having the parser function execute on every page
>> load. What are your opinions on this?
>>
>> See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14267#c5
>
> I think a parser function that sets tab text directly would be better,
> e.g. {{#settab:nstab|Main Page}}{{#settab:talk|Main Page discussion}}
>
And that should be in an extension.
- Mark Clements (HappyDog)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching
Remember the dot wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The discussion about nstab-main and the main page has flared up again:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Common.js#Main_Page_tab
>
> It was suggested in bug 14267 that the contents of nstab-main could be
> cached with the page title, so that we could include a ParserFunctions
> workaround in it without having the parser function execute on every page
> load. What are your opinions on this?
>
> See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14267#c5
I think a parser function that sets tab text directly would be better,
e.g. {{#settab:nstab|Main Page}}{{#settab:talk|Main Page discussion}}
-- Tim Starling
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[Wikitech-l] nstab-main caching
Hello, The discussion about nstab-main and the main page has flared up again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Common.js#Main_Page_tab It was suggested in bug 14267 that the contents of nstab-main could be cached with the page title, so that we could include a ParserFunctions workaround in it without having the parser function execute on every page load. What are your opinions on this? See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14267#c5 -- Remember the dot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Remember_the_dot ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
