[Wikitech-l] supporting small languages (was WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism)

2011-03-08 Thread phoebe ayers
(changing the thread title)

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have proposed to spend 100,000,- Euro and this will make major
 improvements for the scripts, the fonts and the standards for the languages
 we have a Wikipedia for. This is given the current budget chicken feed.
 Thanks,
      GerardM

This is not a comment on the amount of money but on the idea of
improvements to scripts/fonts/standards etc.

I understand there's been discussion about creating a list of problems
for representing various languages on the internet. For example, some
languages have problems being written online because they are not well
supported in Unicode, or some don't have free fonts, etc. etc.

These are problems for *any* website that wants to support that
particular language. There are also bugs related to how *we* support
particular languages in MediaWiki -- as far as I know these have
mainly been collected in Bugzilla.

So my questions are: 1) have there ever been any comprehensive lists
made of these language-related bugs (either within MediaWiki or in
general); and, 2) what needs to be done (technically) to support
small(er) languages?

(I know we,  in particular GerardM, have been discussing this for a
long time. But I'm curious what the current state of affairs is, and
if issues for small languages are collected together in one place).

best,
Phoebe

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Re: [Wikitech-l] supporting small languages (was WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism)

2011-03-08 Thread Niklas Laxström
On 8 March 2011 10:11, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 (changing the thread title)

 On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Gerard Meijssen
 gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have proposed to spend 100,000,- Euro and this will make major
 improvements for the scripts, the fonts and the standards for the languages
 we have a Wikipedia for. This is given the current budget chicken feed.
 Thanks,
      GerardM

 This is not a comment on the amount of money but on the idea of
 improvements to scripts/fonts/standards etc.

 I understand there's been discussion about creating a list of problems
 for representing various languages on the internet. For example, some
 languages have problems being written online because they are not well
 supported in Unicode, or some don't have free fonts, etc. etc.

 These are problems for *any* website that wants to support that
 particular language. There are also bugs related to how *we* support
 particular languages in MediaWiki -- as far as I know these have
 mainly been collected in Bugzilla.

 So my questions are: 1) have there ever been any comprehensive lists
 made of these language-related bugs (either within MediaWiki or in
 general); and, 2) what needs to be done (technically) to support
 small(er) languages?

I haven't seen such list for MediaWiki which covers all issues, but a
structured list would be great. I could even like doing one when I
have time.

 (I know we,  in particular GerardM, have been discussing this for a
 long time. But I'm curious what the current state of affairs is, and
 if issues for small languages are collected together in one place).

There are also issues that affect big languages.

  -Niklas

-- 
Niklas Laxström

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