Re: [Wikitech-l] Please join the "Making the Wiki Ed dashboard work for outreach projects" hackathon session at Wikimania

2015-07-14 Thread Pine W
Hi Andrew,

Thanks, I think that I now have a better understanding of this project. It
looks to me like it could smooth the workflows of affiliates that are
running multiple campaigns simultaneously, as well as the WMF Evaluation
folks when they audit affiliates' reports.

Pinging Jaime to ask for any comments from the WMF Eval side.

Pine
On Jul 14, 2015 9:35 AM, "Andrew Green"  wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> Regarding community support: we're very much hoping some volunteer devs
> would be interested in helping out!! :) I think other kinds of community
> support would be fantastic (testing, working more on requirements, helping
> to organize discussions, etc.).
>
> There isn't an RfC as far as I know, but creating one, or organizing any
> other space for discussion of where to go with these and related features,
> would also be excellent!!
>
> Campaigns, or Editor Campaigns [1], was a project to create a replacement
> for the EducationProgram extension that also addressed the needs of other
> collaborative editing projects, of various kinds. Sadly, it's not been
> possible to do much work on it recently!! However, it did lay out some
> plans and got close to a minimum viable product. I guess it goes without
> saying that community input and discussion is fundamental on this point,
> too.
>
> Regarding Gather: I found a few discussion pages of it... [2][3][4]. From
> what I've seen of Gather, it seems really useful...
>
> Thanks!!! Cheers,
> Andrew
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editor_campaigns
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gather
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Gather
> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Gather/FAQ
>
> On 13/07/15 04:10 PM, Pine W wrote:
>
>> Hi Elitre,
>>
>> A few questions:
>>
>> What are WMF devs needing in the way of "community support"? Is there an
>> RfC, or are you asking for volunteer dev time?
>>
>> What are Campaigns?
>>
>> The last I heard is that there was community opposition to Gather, and
>> that
>> it works on mobile only. Has community sentiment changed, and does Gather
>> work on desktop as well?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pine
>> On Jul 13, 2015 9:55 AM, "Erica Litrenta" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  TL;DR, Whether you are an amateur or an expert coder, or if you are a
>>> current or interested user of the WikiEduDashboard or of the Education
>>> Extension,* please join us at a hackathon session at Wikimania on
>>> Wednesday, 15 July in Workplace 2 - Don Genaro at 1pm. [0]*
>>>
>>> A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, the Wikimedia Foundation
>>> developed Extension:EducationProgram. It did what we needed it to do at
>>> the
>>> time, which was to provide a tool that helps organize classes that want
>>> to
>>> edit Wikipedia articles for course credit. Since its release, the
>>> extension
>>> has been deployed to 18 Wikimedia projects: it's on 4 sister projects in
>>> 16
>>> languages.
>>>
>>> Recently, the Wiki Education Foundation [1], led by project manager Sage
>>> Ross - User:Sage (Wiki Ed), User:Ragesoss - developed a Ruby on Rails app
>>> called the WikiEduDashboard [2], which they will use beginning this fall
>>> instead of the EducationProgram extension, for the university courses
>>> that
>>> they support on English Wikipedia.
>>>
>>> We believe it is possible to use their freely-licensed code to create a
>>> clone of this dashboard that can be used for non-Wiki Ed education
>>> program
>>> courses and other group editing activities on English Wikipedia and,
>>> ultimately, on other Wikimedia projects and in other languages.
>>>
>>> We are asking for community support for this project since this is
>>> outside
>>> the scope of WMF's engineering team for this year. We see the need for a
>>> global dashboard tool and would love to have your help building it!
>>>
>>> We're planning some exciting improvements to the Wiki Education
>>> Dashboard,
>>> see Phabricator [3] for the full list.
>>>  * Full i18n, including right-to-left support.
>>>  * Generalize the UI to work for any wiki project and not only
>>> university courses.
>>>  * Integration with the Gather extension, to render lists of articles
>>> being written and reviewed.
>>>  * Integration with Campaigns, to track group membership and
>>> statistics.
>>>  * Improvements to the API to simplify some actions taken from the
>>> Dashboard.
>>>  * Potentially using Wikidata as the backend for storing information
>>> about courses and editing projects.
>>>
>>> We look forward to working together to build this powerful tool which
>>> will
>>> support more education and outreach programs in the movement!
>>>
>>> Elitre (WMF),
>>> on behalf of the WMF's Education team, + Andrew Green, Adam Wight, Sage
>>> Ross.
>>>
>>>
>>> [0] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103623
>>> [1] http://wikiedu.org/
>>> [2] https://github.com/WikiEducationFoundation/WikiEduDashboard
>>> [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/education-program-dashboard/
>>> __

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please join the "Making the Wiki Ed dashboard work for outreach projects" hackathon session at Wikimania

2015-07-14 Thread Andrew Green

Hi all!

Regarding community support: we're very much hoping some volunteer devs 
would be interested in helping out!! :) I think other kinds of community 
support would be fantastic (testing, working more on requirements, 
helping to organize discussions, etc.).


There isn't an RfC as far as I know, but creating one, or organizing any 
other space for discussion of where to go with these and related 
features, would also be excellent!!


Campaigns, or Editor Campaigns [1], was a project to create a 
replacement for the EducationProgram extension that also addressed the 
needs of other collaborative editing projects, of various kinds. Sadly, 
it's not been possible to do much work on it recently!! However, it did 
lay out some plans and got close to a minimum viable product. I guess it 
goes without saying that community input and discussion is fundamental 
on this point, too.


Regarding Gather: I found a few discussion pages of it... [2][3][4]. 
From what I've seen of Gather, it seems really useful...


Thanks!!! Cheers,
Andrew

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editor_campaigns
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gather
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Gather
[4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Gather/FAQ

On 13/07/15 04:10 PM, Pine W wrote:

Hi Elitre,

A few questions:

What are WMF devs needing in the way of "community support"? Is there an
RfC, or are you asking for volunteer dev time?

What are Campaigns?

The last I heard is that there was community opposition to Gather, and that
it works on mobile only. Has community sentiment changed, and does Gather
work on desktop as well?

Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 13, 2015 9:55 AM, "Erica Litrenta"  wrote:


TL;DR, Whether you are an amateur or an expert coder, or if you are a
current or interested user of the WikiEduDashboard or of the Education
Extension,* please join us at a hackathon session at Wikimania on
Wednesday, 15 July in Workplace 2 - Don Genaro at 1pm. [0]*

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, the Wikimedia Foundation
developed Extension:EducationProgram. It did what we needed it to do at the
time, which was to provide a tool that helps organize classes that want to
edit Wikipedia articles for course credit. Since its release, the extension
has been deployed to 18 Wikimedia projects: it's on 4 sister projects in 16
languages.

Recently, the Wiki Education Foundation [1], led by project manager Sage
Ross - User:Sage (Wiki Ed), User:Ragesoss - developed a Ruby on Rails app
called the WikiEduDashboard [2], which they will use beginning this fall
instead of the EducationProgram extension, for the university courses that
they support on English Wikipedia.

We believe it is possible to use their freely-licensed code to create a
clone of this dashboard that can be used for non-Wiki Ed education program
courses and other group editing activities on English Wikipedia and,
ultimately, on other Wikimedia projects and in other languages.

We are asking for community support for this project since this is outside
the scope of WMF's engineering team for this year. We see the need for a
global dashboard tool and would love to have your help building it!

We're planning some exciting improvements to the Wiki Education Dashboard,
see Phabricator [3] for the full list.
 * Full i18n, including right-to-left support.
 * Generalize the UI to work for any wiki project and not only
university courses.
 * Integration with the Gather extension, to render lists of articles
being written and reviewed.
 * Integration with Campaigns, to track group membership and statistics.
 * Improvements to the API to simplify some actions taken from the
Dashboard.
 * Potentially using Wikidata as the backend for storing information
about courses and editing projects.

We look forward to working together to build this powerful tool which will
support more education and outreach programs in the movement!

Elitre (WMF),
on behalf of the WMF's Education team, + Andrew Green, Adam Wight, Sage
Ross.


[0] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103623
[1] http://wikiedu.org/
[2] https://github.com/WikiEducationFoundation/WikiEduDashboard
[3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/education-program-dashboard/
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Please join the "Making the Wiki Ed dashboard work for outreach projects" hackathon session at Wikimania

2015-07-13 Thread Pine W
Hi Elitre,

A few questions:

What are WMF devs needing in the way of "community support"? Is there an
RfC, or are you asking for volunteer dev time?

What are Campaigns?

The last I heard is that there was community opposition to Gather, and that
it works on mobile only. Has community sentiment changed, and does Gather
work on desktop as well?

Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 13, 2015 9:55 AM, "Erica Litrenta"  wrote:

> TL;DR, Whether you are an amateur or an expert coder, or if you are a
> current or interested user of the WikiEduDashboard or of the Education
> Extension,* please join us at a hackathon session at Wikimania on
> Wednesday, 15 July in Workplace 2 - Don Genaro at 1pm. [0]*
>
> A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, the Wikimedia Foundation
> developed Extension:EducationProgram. It did what we needed it to do at the
> time, which was to provide a tool that helps organize classes that want to
> edit Wikipedia articles for course credit. Since its release, the extension
> has been deployed to 18 Wikimedia projects: it's on 4 sister projects in 16
> languages.
>
> Recently, the Wiki Education Foundation [1], led by project manager Sage
> Ross - User:Sage (Wiki Ed), User:Ragesoss - developed a Ruby on Rails app
> called the WikiEduDashboard [2], which they will use beginning this fall
> instead of the EducationProgram extension, for the university courses that
> they support on English Wikipedia.
>
> We believe it is possible to use their freely-licensed code to create a
> clone of this dashboard that can be used for non-Wiki Ed education program
> courses and other group editing activities on English Wikipedia and,
> ultimately, on other Wikimedia projects and in other languages.
>
> We are asking for community support for this project since this is outside
> the scope of WMF's engineering team for this year. We see the need for a
> global dashboard tool and would love to have your help building it!
>
> We're planning some exciting improvements to the Wiki Education Dashboard,
> see Phabricator [3] for the full list.
> * Full i18n, including right-to-left support.
> * Generalize the UI to work for any wiki project and not only
> university courses.
> * Integration with the Gather extension, to render lists of articles
> being written and reviewed.
> * Integration with Campaigns, to track group membership and statistics.
> * Improvements to the API to simplify some actions taken from the
> Dashboard.
> * Potentially using Wikidata as the backend for storing information
> about courses and editing projects.
>
> We look forward to working together to build this powerful tool which will
> support more education and outreach programs in the movement!
>
> Elitre (WMF),
> on behalf of the WMF's Education team, + Andrew Green, Adam Wight, Sage
> Ross.
>
>
> [0] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103623
> [1] http://wikiedu.org/
> [2] https://github.com/WikiEducationFoundation/WikiEduDashboard
> [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/education-program-dashboard/
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