Re: A copyright question to wine developpers

2012-07-26 Thread Christophe-Marie Duquesne
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Edward Savage  wrote:
> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/05/31/237208/judge-rules-apis-can-not-be-copyrighted
>
> Have you considered talking to your local version of the EFF?
>
> Edward
>

Thank you for your kind advice, and for the link you provided. I'll
consider writing to the EFF.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Michael Stefaniuc  wrote:
> The Windows headers are copyrighted and Wine cannot redistribute those.
> Wine provides its own headers.
>

Gotcha.

Thank you very much,
Christophe-Marie




Re: A copyright question to wine developpers

2012-06-11 Thread Christophe-Marie Duquesne
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Roderick Colenbrander
 wrote:
> Have a look at what Google does for the Linux headers in Android. They
> essentially process them with a script and remove comments, inline
> functions and other stuff. There have been various articles about it.
> Look at the argumentation.

This really helpful. Thank you very much.




Re: A copyright question to wine developpers

2012-06-11 Thread Christophe-Marie Duquesne
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Ricardo Filipe
 wrote:
> yeah, what happens is the header is reimplemented, not simply
> copy-pasted from Windows.
> Even if the API is not copyrighted, the header contents still are.
>

Well if you rewrite a header such that it is 100% compatible with an
API (which means: 0 change in client code), it has to be very similar
to the one the API came from.
- The macros have to be the same, in order to expand the same way in client code
- The function names have to be the same as well
- Same goes for the typedefs
- The header name also has to remain the same.

What can be different:
- function argument names
- indentation
- comments

In the end, it seemed pretty silly to me to do that. But, if that is
the solution to my copyright problem, I am doing it!




A copyright question to wine developpers

2012-06-11 Thread Christophe-Marie Duquesne
Hi,

To my understanding, wine is a reimplementation of the MS system. As
far as I understand, you take MS public headers and reimplement their
functions. If that is how it works, then how do you deal with
copyright? The MS headers certainly come with a copyright clause: how
is it possible to redistribute these headers with wine?

The reason why I ask this: I just rewrote an opensource implementation
of a closed-source library. This opensource implementation is meant to
be fully compatible with the closed source one: I reimplemented all
the functions provided by their header, and anyone using the closed
source one should be able to use my library as a replacement. My
problem, though, is with the distribution of the header: Since I want
to be fully compatible with the closed-source implementation, I have
to, somehow, use the same header. I could probably modify it so that
is *looks* different, but for the compiler, the API *needs* to be the
same.

Since you seem to have the same problem with wine (and you probably
dealt with it succesfully), I wanted to ask you how you are solving
this problem. Do you "rewrite" the headers? Do you copy them "raw"?

Thank you,
Christophe-Marie Duquesne