Re: Wine 2.0
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:27:16 +0200 Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote: How about, instead of calling the next major release version 1.2, call it version 2.0? The reason is purely marketing: an x.0 number will attract more press. Last major release was 1.0. It seems fitting to have the next major release be 2.0. Besides, is there any reason to have multiple levels of major releases? I somehow doubt that a 2.0 can ever be justified if regular major releases use 1.x. You got to be joking... how long did it take to get to version 1? Wines version bump for stable is like Firefox going from version 3.0 to 3.5, more of the same but better. Two years of work and going up by two numbers, that sounds and feels right to me. The press is not going to buy us (read the people who have worked on Wine) jumping from Wine 1 to Wine 2 in 2 years. By the way Lazarus had the same thing about going from 0.9.28 to 1.0.0, it got turned down. It looks like you have some time on your hands, give this a read http://www.pcworld.com/article/82606/linux_users_ready_to_toast_wine.html I will vote for Wine jumping to version 2 when it gets 128bit support (yes 128bit not 64bit).
Re: Shuttleworth on Wine
On Thu, 7 May 2009 16:47:32 +0100 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. The biggest problem for free-as-in-freedom software - Linux and GIMP, and to some extent Wine - is that Windows and Photoshop are effectively free-as-in-beer software ... http://autotelic.com/windows_is_free Windows is not free. You can buy a EeePC running Linux that has 8GB more then the windows version.
Re: Shuttleworth on Wine
On Fri, 8 May 2009 18:43:20 +0100 IneedAname wineap...@gmail.com wrote: Windows is not free. You can buy a EeePC running Linux that has 8GB more then the windows version. Both the Linux and Windows versions are at the same price. Sorry I send this email with out finishing it.
Re: New icons for 1.1.21
On Fri, 08 May 2009 19:41:31 -0700 Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org wrote: Anyway, please feel free to give way too much feedback :) I like then but not the one with the folder on. The gray colour just does not work for me.
Re: Severity levels
On Mon, 4 May 2009 22:12:04 +1000 Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/4 Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com: Then they disappear. There would be no way to search for metabugs, for example, whereas at the moment you can search for Blockers. There's no point in keeping metabugs if there's no SUSPENSE! Lost a chunk of line there. There's no point in keeping metabugs if there's no way to ... SUSPENSE! no way to distinguish them from regular bugs. Wine does have meta bugs look at the application data base. Each application has a list of bugs that effect that program. Why Wine does not use meta bugs in bugzilla is because they end up being Make my all programs work with wine! Now list.
Re: Severity levels
On Sun, 3 May 2009 23:31:45 -0400 Mike Kaplinskiy mike.kaplins...@gmail.com wrote: +1. Or just remove priorities for users altogether. Looks like some one is thinking round here! That gets my vote to.
Re: Severity levels
On Sat, 2 May 2009 16:52:06 +0200 Nicklas Börjesson nicklas.borjes...@ws.se wrote: 3. Major Major loss of functionality for a wide range of applications - Isn't this just all bugs that has more than $arbitrary_number of applications linked to them? An aggregate, rather than a level? In that case #16281 would be major not minor, That is if all the applications that has that bug link to it. I think you can not find out how many applications link a bug. As that has not be coded. To find out that information you would have to scan the application data base or change the way the data base holds this data. I think you want to read bug #16284.
Re: Ubuntu no longer works correctly without pulseaudio
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:26:38 -0500 Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently it keeps getting reinstalled. I encountered it yesterday when installing kernel updates and a few other things. I didn't bother to check what package is depending on it, only noticed it once my test results on http://test.winehq.org showed multiple failures in sound stuff. which version of Ubuntu are you using? I never uninstalled it, It try's rip half your system out with Ubuntu 8.04 (LTS), so I just unticked from 'sessions'. Then I set up ALSA. P.S I may of removed some pulseaudio packages.
Re: [AppDB] Entry for Everquest 2
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:58:00 + Ricardo Filipe ricardojdfil...@gmail.com wrote: bug links are manually recoverable, searching bugzilla and linking should be easy, i can do that if you feel you don't have time to. You can find a copy of wine appdb here http://ftp.winehq.org/pub/wine/ So someone may have a old copy of the data base.
Re: [Wine] The pros and cons of a wiki AppDB
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 20:10:13 + David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. That's why a wiki is nice. If you open it up to everyone to contribute, you'll get bad stuff but you'll get good stuff you just wouldn't get otherwise. It's a great format to capture that. We would use the same system for edit rights that we use now. Make appDB account then ask to be a maintainer then you can edit the wiki page for that app. The wiki is only for application notes. Anyone can read the wiki history. Pro: The only thing the wiki will do thats new is we will have a history on the maintainers notes. Con: It would be very hard to set up. I'm cc'ing this to wine-users - since I'd need to make a case for the wiki to developers, but it's actually *for* the users. Users: what's right and wrong with the AppDB? How useful is it for you? What would make it better? Do not cross post or you may up set people with power.
Re: AppDB entries are being delete without contacting maintainer by Rozanne
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:36:11 +0100 Klaus Layer klaus.la...@gmx.de wrote: Rozanne just deleted an entry which was maintained by me. According to the email I received, there were duplicated entries for the programm Mapsource. I regard deleting entries from Appdb without giving the maintainer a chance to backup what they maintained a *very* unfriendly act. I would have merged the two entries under one to save the valuable information users added to AppDB. Just deleting entries from AppDB, deletes information the wine community collected to support using wine. Users spent a lot of time and just deleting their work is *not* acceptable. Can someone of the adminstrators of AppDB please make sure that Rozanne stops This is why I want a wiki like change log for restoring stuff and checking the history.
Re: AppDB entries are being delete without contacting maintainer by Rozanne
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 00:10:59 +1100 Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com wrote: A wiki is likely to be highly unsuccessful for AppDB when the focus is on test data. I'm thing about the notes made by the app maintainers. Not the whole AppDB.
Re: WineHQ.org downtime
On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:08:02 -0600 Jeremy Newman jnew...@codeweavers.com wrote: Software upgrades complete. So whats new?
Re: Wine download page usability problem
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:40:28 -0800 Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html and let me know if it detects your distro properly, I'll fix it up as needed. It does not my detect distro version. Can that be done?
Re: Wine viruses
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:11:20 +0100 Martin Hinner mar...@hinner.info wrote: The problem is that some (almost all?) distributions simply execute .exe file when you click on it. I was amazed when testing JTAGTest on Linux! This is in my opinion quite big issue as ordinary users do not have problem clicking on New folder.exe on their flashdisk etc. It's good that wine is so compatible that it runs even viruses, but I think there should be some (optional) protection. The biggest problem seem to be removable media, in many distributions mounted under /mnt or /media. Please think about this twice before writing problem is in Microsoft not in Wine, it's not a bug but feature, etc. It's too childish IMO. Why not make Wine honor the noexe flag on the mount?
Re: ntdll: add a warning about running wine as root (resend)
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:35:20 -0700 (GMT-07:00) James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote: Yes, there are legit reasons to run as root, one of them is the now famous ICMP 'Ping' unavailability issue in Linux. Experts know about this and how to work around it. Newbies, used to Windows and how it works, just figure that this is restricted to administrators, and switch to root to get around it. The proper command, as I have learned through years of UNIX administration, is 'su -' but newbies don't know this and most just use 'su'. Can you point me at a guide for using ICMP 'Ping' without root? Sorry for being a noob.
Re: imagicos
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 19:18:04 -0600 EA Durbin ead1...@hotmail.com wrote: That and I can't the source code anywhere on their site. Here is a copy of what I have send to then. I want the source code of the version(s) of Wine you package with your OS. If you have not read Wine's license now is the time to do so. I have downloaded the copy of wine thats on there site, Its wine version 0.9.46! If you read the version in full you will see its copied from the Ubuntu repo. This whole thing would be funny if it was not for: Read cost. http://www.imagicos.com/why.html Rip off! http://www.imagicos.com/get.html After a bit more reading it looks like they buy a copy of Crossover games and add some open source software and sell it on at 3 times the price. After all that I feel sick.
Re: Fixing AppDB once and for all
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 01:20:47 -0500 Zachary Goldberg zg...@bluesata.com wrote: Comments? Can we have a wiki like change log for the notes in the AppDB to see whats be changed when and by who. Can we have a easy way for maintainers to (plan check for bugs give there system spec and so on). Sorry my spelling has let me down on that one. Like a sub mailing list or some way of sending the same email to all the maintainers of an app that you are an maintainer of. Why I have said this here and not on the irc is because I can not keep up with real time chat with my spelling skill level.
Re: Fixing AppDB once and for all
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:02:12 +0100 Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes a...@thehandofagony.com wrote: What if we add a small questionnaire which will then pick the approprite Gold/Silver ... rating? That what I like to see.
Re: AppDB: Rating / Patching
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:48:34 + Darragh Bailey fe...@compsoc.nuigalway.ie wrote: Warcraft III and Frozen Throne expansion was released to support Windows 98/ME/2k/XP. Nowhere in it's patch notes does it say that the minimum requirements to run Warcraft 3 have changed to have the minimum requirements of Windows 2k XP only. Since to my knowledge the Visual Studio 2008 (I believe that is 7, right?), doesn't have an runtimes for Windows 98 or ME. Warcraft III and Frozen Throne needs MS Visual C 2005 Runtimes for patch 1.22 and newer.
Re: Dates in Wine announcement
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:33:21 +1100 Peter Urbanec winehq@urbanec.net wrote: Speaking of dates... My pet peeve is seeing ambiguous dates such as 2/1/08. To me (and most of the world), that looks like 2nd Jan 2008, but it appears that millions of people in the USA see it as 1st Feb 2008. So, in the interest of disambiguation, I'd like to see human readable dates with the month either fully spelled out or using a three letter abbreviation. Date formats that are intended to be parsed by machines are best represented as 2008-01-23, so that they are collated correctly when sorted by a simple lexicographical routine. Cheers. If we had the date please spell it out in full. Then we all are on the same page world over. Wednesday, 07 January 2009 Can you bring back the link to the newest version of wine. E.G. link http://www.winehq.org/?announce=latest to http://www.winehq.org/announce/1.1.12 This did work before the website had its make over.
Re: New appdb checkbox: officially supports wine?
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:52:46 -0800 Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: http://wiki.winehq.org/AppsThatSupportWine is a nice stopgap, but perhaps it should be a report in the appdb, driven by a checkbox that maintainers can check. What do folks think? You get my vote!
Re: AppDB: Rating / Patching
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:46:06 -0500 Sparr spa...@gmail.com wrote: I have not investigated the state of wine launchers in about a year now. Do any of those handle multiple WINEPREFIXes? That is the most important feature of Cedega's launcher that I was never able to find in a wine launcher. Thank you and forgive me if things have improved. http://repo.or.cz/w/WineLauncher.git?a=shortlog
Re: install-wine-deps.sh can now handle 32 bit wine on 64 bit systems
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:23:52 -0800 Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: ./configure --target=i686-unknown-gnu-linux What does that do? It's not listed in ./configure --help. For building 64bit wine I have to pass --enable-win64. 32bit wine builds with just make. I am running Ubuntu 8.04 with an AMD64 processor, I have done all the linking in /lib32 myself.
Re: DIB Engine
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:44:39 +0100 Massimo Del Fedele m...@veneto.com wrote: How should I publish it ? http://repo.or.cz/w/wine.git?a=forks
Patchwatcher offline?
Looks like Patchwatcher has being offline from 09-Dec-2008. Did I miss something or did someone trip over the mains cable?
Re: Patchwatcher status
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:45:52 -0700 Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new machine has a fairly modern nvidia card, so more of the tests are actually run. Where can I find the spec of the new machine ? Are you using the closed source driver ? I want to see the full system spec hardware and software please. By the way thank you for your hard work.