Re: Adobe Photoshop idea
On 10/1/06, Karsten Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah.. it's surprising they'd turn down another revenue stream so vehemently When M$ is done killing off McAfee, Symantec, Norton and all the other security firms. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/27/AR2006092701514.html http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=technologyNewsstoryID=2006-10-02T115117Z_01_L02932174_RTRIDST_0_TECH-MICROSOFT-EU-COL.XML Sony is up the creek as well? : http://www.electricsistahood.com/reviews/2006/09/do-math-will-sony-go-broke.html The Zune will give the iPod a migraine : http://www.itp.net/news/details.php?id=22195category= Sun Microsystems, Novel, Corel and countless others are soon to be known as ... Who ? In the end M$ will become bored and need someone to kill off for sheer joy and adulation. And this is when they will jump on Adobe like white on rice, and when this happens and mind you it will they will be a much kinder gentler company and *vehemently* seek any revenue stream on our blue planet. :-) Just my $0.02 on the future of Adobe and friends.. Tom
Re: Adobe Photoshop idea
- Original Message From: Tom Wickline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Karsten Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: wine-devel@winehq.org Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2006 4:46:22 AM Subject: Re: Adobe Photoshop idea snip Sun Microsystems, Novel, Corel and countless others are soon to be known as ... Who ? Sun Microsystems can't be killed. Many of the world's infrastructure literally relies on them (though, it's not quite evident from the end user standpoint.) The only way they would go away is if they were bought out, and then, the Sun name was axed. Hiji
Re: Adobe Photoshop idea
On 10/3/06, Hiji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sun Microsystems can't be killed. Many of the world's infrastructure literally relies on them (though, it's not quite evident from the end user standpoint.) The only way they would go away is if they were bought out, and then, the Sun name was axed. What's the old addage? No one's indispensible. --tim
Adobe Photoshop idea
I know a lot of people really want newer versions of photoshop (CS, CS2) to work with wine, myself included, so I opened up a feature request on Adobe's Photoshop forum, first with the intent to lobby for a Linux version, but then had the idea that maybe it would be more realistic to get Photoshop to work in Linux via Wine, possibly via having some sort of collaboration between the two dev groups. A reply I got on their messageboard is actually from a dev, and I suggested to him that they work with the Wine devs on this, as it seems much more realistic and possible than a Linux port. So I'm sending this to you guys as a heads up that this might be a good opportunity to get in contact with the Adobe people about getting some ideas on getting Photoshop working in Wine. Here's the link to the thread: http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc1d4af/7 maybe someone could reply and say Hi at least and say to Chris (that's the guy) that you'd be receptive to some input from Adobe on this. I can only see this as a win-win situation for everyone, Linux users for getting Photoshop working, and Adobe for the admiration of the Linux community and the possibility of new revenue that might be available to them via new sales of the software. Sorry to drop in from out of nowhere on this, but I thought the opportunity seemed to good to not say anything. So long and thanks for wine, it's awesome :) Karsten
Re: Adobe Photoshop idea
Hey Karsten, Is there any other way to see the thread? It requires a login. ATM, I think its great that PhotoShop 7 runs near perfectly under Wine, but it would be fantastic if CS and CS2 versions ran just as smoothly. Hiji - Original Message From: Karsten Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wine-devel@winehq.org Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 11:51:43 PM Subject: Adobe Photoshop idea I know a lot of people really want newer versions of photoshop (CS, CS2) to work with wine, myself included, so I opened up a feature request on Adobe's Photoshop forum, first with the intent to lobby for a Linux version, but then had the idea that maybe it would be more realistic to get Photoshop to work in Linux via Wine, possibly via having some sort of collaboration between the two dev groups. A reply I got on their messageboard is actually from a dev, and I suggested to him that they work with the Wine devs on this, as it seems much more realistic and possible than a Linux port. So I'm sending this to you guys as a heads up that this might be a good opportunity to get in contact with the Adobe people about getting some ideas on getting Photoshop working in Wine. Here's the link to the thread: http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc1d4af/7 maybe someone could reply and say Hi at least and say to Chris (that's the guy) that you'd be receptive to some input from Adobe on this. I can only see this as a win-win situation for everyone, Linux users for getting Photoshop working, and Adobe for the admiration of the Linux community and the possibility of new revenue that might be available to them via new sales of the software. Sorry to drop in from out of nowhere on this, but I thought the opportunity seemed to good to not say anything. So long and thanks for wine, it's awesome :) Karsten
Re: Adobe Photoshop idea
Sorry! Try this: http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc1d4af If that doesn't work, just go to: http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/index.html Click Photoshop / Imageready Click Photoshop Windows Click Feature requests (the 2nd thread in the list) Click Time for a Linux version? (the thread) register with the site and reply :) thanks.. On 10/1/06, Hiji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Karsten, Is there any other way to see the thread? It requires a login. ATM, I think its great that PhotoShop 7 runs near perfectly under Wine, but it would be fantastic if CS and CS2 versions ran just as smoothly. Hiji - Original Message From: Karsten Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wine-devel@winehq.org Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 11:51:43 PM Subject: Adobe Photoshop idea I know a lot of people really want newer versions of photoshop (CS, CS2) to work with wine, myself included, so I opened up a feature request on Adobe's Photoshop forum, first with the intent to lobby for a Linux version, but then had the idea that maybe it would be more realistic to get Photoshop to work in Linux via Wine, possibly via having some sort of collaboration between the two dev groups. A reply I got on their messageboard is actually from a dev, and I suggested to him that they work with the Wine devs on this, as it seems much more realistic and possible than a Linux port. So I'm sending this to you guys as a heads up that this might be a good opportunity to get in contact with the Adobe people about getting some ideas on getting Photoshop working in Wine. Here's the link to the thread: http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc1d4af/7 maybe someone could reply and say Hi at least and say to Chris (that's the guy) that you'd be receptive to some input from Adobe on this. I can only see this as a win-win situation for everyone, Linux users for getting Photoshop working, and Adobe for the admiration of the Linux community and the possibility of new revenue that might be available to them via new sales of the software. Sorry to drop in from out of nowhere on this, but I thought the opportunity seemed to good to not say anything. So long and thanks for wine, it's awesome :) Karsten
Re: Adobe Photoshop idea
Karsten Anderson wrote: I know a lot of people really want newer versions of photoshop (CS, CS2) to work with wine, myself included, so I opened up a feature request on Adobe's Photoshop forum, first with the intent to lobby for As an fyi, we care deeply about having CS and CS2 work, and have been unable to support them, entirely due to the form of copy protection used. The same is true for the = MX 2004 versions formerly of Macromedia. Unfortunately, last time I checked, for all that Adobe is interested, they aren't willing to switch to a different copy protection format. Further, the copy protection vendors are *completely* terrified of working with Wine. They're so terrified, they can't even be calmed enough to explain things. Of course, it doesn't help that we have to start by explaining that we can't sign an NDA because of our need to publish our work under the LGPL... So the short story is that copy protection support is the gating issue here, and it's a serious PITA. But Alexandre promises me he'll have it done Real Soon Now (TM). Cheers, Jeremy
Re: Adobe Photoshop idea
Wow... looks like Chris, and other members of that forum are 'actively hostile' to the Linux community. The difference in tone between this thread and that, about the same topic, is incredible. --tim
Re: Adobe Photoshop idea
yeah.. it's surprising they'd turn down another revenue stream so vehemently On 10/1/06, Tim Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow... looks like Chris, and other members of that forum are 'actively hostile' to the Linux community. The difference in tone between this thread and that, about the same topic, is incredible. --tim
