Re: Lug Radio Live 2008 wine talk. Slides online, comments welcome.

2008-04-14 Thread Zachary Goldberg
Dan,

Any links for us to hear your discussion this past weekend?

--Zach

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 5:05 AM, Jonathan Ernst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

  Le jeudi 03 avril 2008 à 20:26 -0700, Dan Kegel a écrit :
   [...]


   The slides are pretty basic; I'll talk a lot around them.
   If anybody feels like reviewing the slides
   and giving feedback, I'd appreciate it.


  Slide 4 :

  You might be interested to add some, government related, recent
  migrations in Europe to this slide :

  French Police ~70'000 seats
  http://www.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9861472-16.html

  Geneva, Switzerland schools 9'000 seats
  
 http://www.tdg.ch/pages/home/tribune_de_geneve/recherche/recherche_3_2_1/(contenu)/211880

  http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tdg.ch%2Fpages%2Fhome
  %2Ftribune_de_geneve%2Frecherche%2Frecherche_3_2_1%2F(contenu)%
  2F211880langpair=fr|enhl=frie=UTF8

  Slide 13 :

  Maybe add 2008: Codeweavers releases Crossover Games

  I'm looking forward to hearing this second Wine related LugRadio.

  Best regards.

  Jonathan









-- 
Zachary Goldberg
Computer Science  Engineering
Electrical Captain of Penn Electric Race Team
School of Engineering at the University of Pennsylvania



Re: Lug Radio Live 2008 wine talk. Slides online, comments welcome.

2008-04-04 Thread pure_evil
Woah, that's ubercool.
The presentation is excellent! However, you could add five collosal IMHO 
advantages of wine:

1. NO 1000 DISCONTINUED WIN VERSIONS

That's what largely made me dump 'doze and go for Linux - got 6 W98 licenses, 
and at some point, upgraded the hardware to discover that 98 doesn't support 
the new Mainboards. 
So I spent two days trying to get all the MBs replaced, managed to get '98 
running... And trust me, last thing you wanna do when you're in an empty new 
office is to extend a phone wire with a UTP wire to use the only connected 
atm phone socket to get dial-up working and with the collosal 5KBITS(!) per 
second to google out the only remaining in the PC store's warehouse mainboard 
to see if that supports '98, so you can call 'em and tell 'em I'll 
take 'em. 
Oh, and you have to bring in your OWN PERSONAL machine to do that. The rest 
are basically a pile of mainboards which can't run '98 so they can't use the 
modem and so forth.

And then enter my favorite software provider, sees the new machines, claps his 
hands and says: 
Cool, new machines! Now you get the new windows version of the soft, and, it 
requires XP! And since you are the only ones to use the DOS version, it's 
discontinued from now on.
Oh, and BTW? Your friendly local Samba server? 
Guess what, we're going MSSQL from now on, you need 1G of RAM on an XP 
machine... for 40 megs of databases.
So with a thousand pains me gets the damn thing working on 98 and sacrifices 
TWO NEW MACHINES for the SQL server(s)  and purchases TWO UNNECESSARY XP 
LICENSES - cuz two sets of databases, and, well, the express version doesn't 
support that.
And things get better: Yeah, you got it running under '98. Guess what, we'll 
be using cutting-edge stuff from now on; Now it's MSShitQL 2005, when 
something new comes out, you'll be upgrading; And once my soft becomes 
fully '98 incompatible, THEN you scrap the 98 licenses and by new, XP ones.
- But no money for licenses? (1 XP = 1 new machine without monitor 
basically. Oh, and it has to be Professional)
- Bah, go pirate. Everybody's doing it. 
(What does he mean by  on cutting-edge stuff BTW?! VISTA?! For an accounting 
database?!)

And every once in a while when there's a bug in his soft, he attributes it to 
98. Program closes but press ctrl-alt-del and you get a bunch of instances 
remaining? 98's fault. Slow? 98's fault. Crash due to an empty piece of 
database? '98s fault. And of course, after 98s fault follows the 
natural install XP.

Enter wine. Select windows version = XP. Work.

2.) No Premium Basic Home Server Client whatever. 

Enter wine. Work.

3.) Easy reinstall.
Delete drive_c and the reg files. wineprefixcreate. Work.

4.) A 1000 windows on one machine.
~3 Megs per drive_c. Work.

5.) Forget that viruses under wine stuff from days past, no, really. 
 - No startup! Hide all you like in the registry you piece of cr... spyware, I 
won't even know you got there, nor will you ever get started!
- No IE5678910! Yeah! Come and get me.
- What, no normally inaccessible (even to NOD32 at some point) System Volume 
Information? Where are you gonna hide (or rather, stay exposed frustrating 
me)?
- And where's the MBR of drive_c? in .wine?

All that combined is what makes me want to develop for wine.




Re: Lug Radio Live 2008 wine talk. Slides online, comments welcome.

2008-04-04 Thread Jonathan Ernst
Hello,

Le jeudi 03 avril 2008 à 20:26 -0700, Dan Kegel a écrit :
 [...]

 The slides are pretty basic; I'll talk a lot around them.
 If anybody feels like reviewing the slides
 and giving feedback, I'd appreciate it.


Slide 4 :

You might be interested to add some, government related, recent
migrations in Europe to this slide :

French Police ~70'000 seats
http://www.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9861472-16.html

Geneva, Switzerland schools 9'000 seats
http://www.tdg.ch/pages/home/tribune_de_geneve/recherche/recherche_3_2_1/(contenu)/211880

http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tdg.ch%2Fpages%2Fhome
%2Ftribune_de_geneve%2Frecherche%2Frecherche_3_2_1%2F(contenu)%
2F211880langpair=fr|enhl=frie=UTF8

Slide 13 :

Maybe add 2008: Codeweavers releases Crossover Games

I'm looking forward to hearing this second Wine related LugRadio.

Best regards.

Jonathan







Lug Radio Live 2008 wine talk. Slides online, comments welcome.

2008-04-03 Thread Dan Kegel
I'm going to be giving a Wine talk at LugRadio Live 2008,
April 12-13, in San Francisco.
My talk is Saturday at 2:30; see
http://lugradio.org/live/USA2008/schedule

In a mixup at my favorite coffeehouse today
(Stir Crazy), I was accidentally overcaffeinated,
and wrote my entire presentation in about one sitting.
It's online at
  http://kegel.com/wine/lugradiolive2008/
The slides are pretty basic; I'll talk a lot around them.
If anybody feels like reviewing the slides
and giving feedback, I'd appreciate it.

If anybody's planning on attending the event, let's
get together for lunch or coffee or something.
- Dan