Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla? what about ARM?

[André Hentschel]

Seth Shelnutt schrieb:
> I'm curious what the level of ARM support is or the progress is? Is
> there a "todo" list somewhere? I searched the wine site but besides
> turning up mailing list threads I didn't see much info on ARM, only
> discussions. I haven't been following this, but would like to see where
> it's at/what needs to be done.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Seth Shelnutt
> 
> 2009/12/12 André Hentschel mailto:n...@dawncrow.de>>
> 
> Tom Wickline schrieb:
> > I was thinking sense your about to revise this area why not just do it
> > now and have it over with?
> > But yea I suppose Wine support on ARM is in the early stages, but if
> > enough people are interested
> > in Wine on ARM then the bug reports should start to come in.
> >
> > It's just a suggestion not a recommendation :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Dan Kegel  
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > Sure, once it's far enough along... might be a bit early yet?
> >
> >> On Dec 11, 2009 6:15 PM, "Tom Wickline"  
> >> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Austin English
> >> mailto:austinengl...@gmail.com>
> >>
> wrote:
> >> > > > Dan and I dis...
> >>
> >>
> >> If your going to re-work this I would also add ARM to the list,
> >> their has been some work to port Wine  to the ARM processor
> >> lately. Anyone have any objections to adding a ARM selection to
> >> the list?
> >>
> >> ARM -> RISC
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Tom
> 
> I am still working on the port and i think lots of people would like
> to run windowsapps on arm devices. of course they would need a
> emulator for that.
> Also i have some problems with the port(otherwise i might be
> finished :), so Dan, i saw on your website that you have some ARM
> experience, do you have some time to help me with some hiccups?
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Best Regards, André Hentschel
> 
> 
> 

I wrote some things into the wiki, i guess that is enough for now.
Tell me if you need more details on some parts.

-- 

Best Regards, André Hentschel

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?

[James McKenzie]

Vitaliy Margolen wrote:
> Nate Gallaher wrote:
>   
>> Austin English wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan and I discussed it, and figured renaming the hardware to reflect
>>> the architecture would be more descriptive:
>>> Macintosh -> ppc32
>>> PC -> x86
>>> PC-x86-64 -> x86-64
>>> sun -> sparc
>>>
>>> How does that sound?
>>>   
>>>   
>> +1 here.
>>
>> Sounds like a solid idea.
>> 
>
> Looks good to me too.
>
> Vitaliy.
>
>
>   
+1

James McKenzie

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla? what about ARM?

[Seth Shelnutt]

I'm curious what the level of ARM support is or the progress is? Is there a
"todo" list somewhere? I searched the wine site but besides turning up
mailing list threads I didn't see much info on ARM, only discussions. I
haven't been following this, but would like to see where it's at/what needs
to be done.

Thanks,

Seth Shelnutt

2009/12/12 André Hentschel 

> Tom Wickline schrieb:
> > I was thinking sense your about to revise this area why not just do it
> > now and have it over with?
> > But yea I suppose Wine support on ARM is in the early stages, but if
> > enough people are interested
> > in Wine on ARM then the bug reports should start to come in.
> >
> > It's just a suggestion not a recommendation :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Dan Kegel  > > wrote:
> >
> > Sure, once it's far enough along... might be a bit early yet?
> >
> >> On Dec 11, 2009 6:15 PM, "Tom Wickline"  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Austin English
> >> mailto:austinengl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> > > > Dan and I dis...
> >>
> >>
> >> If your going to re-work this I would also add ARM to the list,
> >> their has been some work to port Wine  to the ARM processor
> >> lately. Anyone have any objections to adding a ARM selection to
> >> the list?
> >>
> >> ARM -> RISC
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Tom
>
> I am still working on the port and i think lots of people would like to run
> windowsapps on arm devices. of course they would need a emulator for that.
> Also i have some problems with the port(otherwise i might be finished :),
> so Dan, i saw on your website that you have some ARM experience, do you have
> some time to help me with some hiccups?
>
>
> --
>
> Best Regards, André Hentschel
>
>
>

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla? what about ARM?

[Dan Kegel]

2009/12/12 André Hentschel :
> Also i have some problems with the port(otherwise i might be finished :), so 
> Dan, i saw on your website that you have some ARM experience, do you have 
> some time to help me with some hiccups?

What hiccups?

I'm kind of overloaded right now, but who knows, maybe they'd be easy
questions...

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla? what about ARM?

[André Hentschel]

Tom Wickline schrieb:
> I was thinking sense your about to revise this area why not just do it
> now and have it over with?
> But yea I suppose Wine support on ARM is in the early stages, but if
> enough people are interested
> in Wine on ARM then the bug reports should start to come in.
> 
> It's just a suggestion not a recommendation :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Dan Kegel  > wrote:
> 
> Sure, once it's far enough along... might be a bit early yet?
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2009 6:15 PM, "Tom Wickline" > > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Austin English
>> mailto:austinengl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > > > Dan and I dis...
>>
>>
>> If your going to re-work this I would also add ARM to the list,
>> their has been some work to port Wine  to the ARM processor
>> lately. Anyone have any objections to adding a ARM selection to
>> the list?
>>
>> ARM -> RISC
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tom

I am still working on the port and i think lots of people would like to run 
windowsapps on arm devices. of course they would need a emulator for that.
Also i have some problems with the port(otherwise i might be finished :), so 
Dan, i saw on your website that you have some ARM experience, do you have some 
time to help me with some hiccups?


-- 

Best Regards, André Hentschel

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?

[Tom Wickline]

I was thinking sense your about to revise this area why not just do it now
and have it over with?
But yea I suppose Wine support on ARM is in the early stages, but if enough
people are interested
in Wine on ARM then the bug reports should start to come in.

It's just a suggestion not a recommendation :)

Thanks,
Tom

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Dan Kegel  wrote:

> Sure, once it's far enough along... might be a bit early yet?
>
> On Dec 11, 2009 6:15 PM, "Tom Wickline"  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Austin English 
> wrote: > > > Dan and I dis...
>
> If your going to re-work this I would also add ARM to the list, their has
> been some work to port Wine  to the ARM processor lately. Anyone have any
> objections to adding a ARM selection to the list?
>
> ARM -> RISC
>
> Cheers,
> Tom
>
>

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?

[Dan Kegel]

Sure, once it's far enough along... might be a bit early yet?

On Dec 11, 2009 6:15 PM, "Tom Wickline"  wrote:



On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Austin English 
wrote: > > > Dan and I dis...

If your going to re-work this I would also add ARM to the list, their has
been some work to port Wine  to the ARM processor lately. Anyone have any
objections to adding a ARM selection to the list?

ARM -> RISC

Cheers,
Tom

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?

[Tom Wickline]

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Austin English wrote:

>
> Dan and I discussed it, and figured renaming the hardware to reflect
> the architecture would be more descriptive:
> Macintosh -> ppc32
> PC -> x86
> PC-x86-64 -> x86-64
> sun -> sparc
>
> How does that sound?
>
> --
> -Austin
>
>
If your going to re-work this I would also add ARM to the list, their has
been some work to port Wine  to the ARM processor lately. Anyone have any
objections to adding a ARM selection to the list?

ARM -> RISC

Cheers,
Tom

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?

[Vitaliy Margolen]

Nate Gallaher wrote:
> Austin English wrote:
>> Dan and I discussed it, and figured renaming the hardware to reflect
>> the architecture would be more descriptive:
>> Macintosh -> ppc32
>> PC -> x86
>> PC-x86-64 -> x86-64
>> sun -> sparc
>>
>> How does that sound?
>>   
> 
> +1 here.
> 
> Sounds like a solid idea.

Looks good to me too.

Vitaliy.

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?

[Nate Gallaher]

Austin English wrote:

Dan and I discussed it, and figured renaming the hardware to reflect
the architecture would be more descriptive:
Macintosh -> ppc32
PC -> x86
PC-x86-64 -> x86-64
sun -> sparc

How does that sound?
  


+1 here.

Sounds like a solid idea.

~Nate Gallaher

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?

[Austin English]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Scott Ritchie  wrote:
> Austin English wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Juan Lang  wrote:
 Does "mac" mean "powerpc mac only"?  I rather
 thought it meant "apple macintosh", regardless
 of cpu.  I ask because Austin has just gone through
 and changed lots of "mac" bugs to "pc" even
 though the bugs were on Intel macs, which just
 seems wrong.
>>> I agree with you, this change seems suspect.  Austin, are you trying
>>> to distinguish PPC bugs from x86 ones with this, or what?
>>> --Juan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I've seen the same change made a few times in the past (I'd have to
>> search for it). Looking at other bugzilla's, Mozilla puts Intel Mac
>> bugs under PC...after all, since they've moved to x86, for all intents
>> and purposes, Intel Macs are PC's (especially if running Linux rather
>> than OS X). Those running OS X still can be identified as such by the
>> OS field.
>>
>> Yes, my goal was to separate x86/ppc bugs.
>>
>
> Then we should change the tab to read ppc rather than mac.

I know this is an old thread, but I'd like to (finally) make some
progress on this...

I'd really like to see the Macintosh verb removed/renamed, since an
Intel Mac is really just a PC. The OS field tells us it's a Mac, and,
for example, a Linux OS on an Intel Mac is no different (to Wine) than
a regular x86/x86_64 PC running Linux.

Dan and I discussed it, and figured renaming the hardware to reflect
the architecture would be more descriptive:
Macintosh -> ppc32
PC -> x86
PC-x86-64 -> x86-64
sun -> sparc

How does that sound?

-- 
-Austin

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?

[Scott Ritchie]

Austin English wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Juan Lang  wrote:
>>> Does "mac" mean "powerpc mac only"?  I rather
>>> thought it meant "apple macintosh", regardless
>>> of cpu.  I ask because Austin has just gone through
>>> and changed lots of "mac" bugs to "pc" even
>>> though the bugs were on Intel macs, which just
>>> seems wrong.
>> I agree with you, this change seems suspect.  Austin, are you trying
>> to distinguish PPC bugs from x86 ones with this, or what?
>> --Juan
>>
>>
>>
> 
> I've seen the same change made a few times in the past (I'd have to
> search for it). Looking at other bugzilla's, Mozilla puts Intel Mac
> bugs under PC...after all, since they've moved to x86, for all intents
> and purposes, Intel Macs are PC's (especially if running Linux rather
> than OS X). Those running OS X still can be identified as such by the
> OS field.
> 
> Yes, my goal was to separate x86/ppc bugs.
> 

Then we should change the tab to read ppc rather than mac.

Thanks,
Scott Ritchie

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?

[Austin English]

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Juan Lang  wrote:
>> Does "mac" mean "powerpc mac only"?  I rather
>> thought it meant "apple macintosh", regardless
>> of cpu.  I ask because Austin has just gone through
>> and changed lots of "mac" bugs to "pc" even
>> though the bugs were on Intel macs, which just
>> seems wrong.
>
> I agree with you, this change seems suspect.  Austin, are you trying
> to distinguish PPC bugs from x86 ones with this, or what?
> --Juan
>
>
>

I've seen the same change made a few times in the past (I'd have to
search for it). Looking at other bugzilla's, Mozilla puts Intel Mac
bugs under PC...after all, since they've moved to x86, for all intents
and purposes, Intel Macs are PC's (especially if running Linux rather
than OS X). Those running OS X still can be identified as such by the
OS field.

Yes, my goal was to separate x86/ppc bugs.

-- 
-Austin

Re: meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?

[Juan Lang]

> Does "mac" mean "powerpc mac only"?  I rather
> thought it meant "apple macintosh", regardless
> of cpu.  I ask because Austin has just gone through
> and changed lots of "mac" bugs to "pc" even
> though the bugs were on Intel macs, which just
> seems wrong.

I agree with you, this change seems suspect.  Austin, are you trying
to distinguish PPC bugs from x86 ones with this, or what?
--Juan