Re: Wine passes WGA test

2005-08-05 Thread Felix Nawothnig

James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
IIRC it's checking the location of the old Wine config registry key. 
This has all moved as part of the config file removal (and as was 
planned long before WPA came around).


No doubt they will update their WPA checks at some point...
Would it be wiser to implement a wine feature to block a particular 
application from seeing a particular registry key. 


I disagree. If Windows has such a feature and/or it's somehow useful in 
other situations it could be implemented but doing this to get around 
their Wine detection is just silly - we couldn't win that race as there 
are zillions of methods to detect Wine and most of them can't be avoided 
(the first thing that comes to my mind which can't be worked around in 
userspace is doing a unix syscall for example).


Felix



Re: Wine passes WGA test

2005-08-05 Thread Ivan Leo Puoti

James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
Would it be wiser to implement a wine feature to block a particular 
application from seeing a particular registry key. We could then only 
allow the key to be visable to the application it would actually be 
useful for. I think the MS windows registry already has this feature in 
order to provide security for certain registry entries.


Blocking wine would probably be against anti trust laws so I don't see the 
point.
I'd prefer to see them forced to remove anti wine stuff by a court rather than work around stuff 
like that.


Ivan.




Re: Wine passes WGA test

2005-08-05 Thread James Courtier-Dutton

Francois Gouget wrote:


On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Ivan Leo Puoti wrote:
[...]

Also the anti wine checks appear to be disabled as the tool works in 
both windows 2000 and windows 98 mode, however the wine registry key 
string is still in the binary, maybe it's just disabled.



IIRC it's checking the location of the old Wine config registry key. 
This has all moved as part of the config file removal (and as was 
planned long before WPA came around).


No doubt they will update their WPA checks at some point...

Would it be wiser to implement a wine feature to block a particular 
application from seeing a particular registry key. We could then only 
allow the key to be visable to the application it would actually be 
useful for. I think the MS windows registry already has this feature in 
order to provide security for certain registry entries.


James




Re: Wine passes WGA test

2005-08-05 Thread Andreas Mohr
Hi,

On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 12:18:32PM +0200, Francois Gouget wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Ivan Leo Puoti wrote:
> [...]
> >Also the anti wine checks appear to be disabled as the tool works in both 
> >windows 2000 and windows 98 mode, however the wine registry key string is 
> >still in the binary, maybe it's just disabled.
> 
> IIRC it's checking the location of the old Wine config registry key. 
> This has all moved as part of the config file removal (and as was 
> planned long before WPA came around).

WGA!
("Windows Genuine Disadvantage", not XP's "Windows Product Activation")

> No doubt they will update their WPA checks at some point...

Hmm, let's hope they know what to do or not do, also in light of the
EU investigation reports, then...

Andreas Mohr

-- 
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Re: Wine passes WGA test

2005-08-05 Thread Francois Gouget

On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Ivan Leo Puoti wrote:
[...]
Also the anti wine checks appear to be disabled as the tool works in both 
windows 2000 and windows 98 mode, however the wine registry key string is 
still in the binary, maybe it's just disabled.


IIRC it's checking the location of the old Wine config registry key. 
This has all moved as part of the config file removal (and as was 
planned long before WPA came around).


No doubt they will update their WPA checks at some point...

--
Francois Gouget [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://fgouget.free.fr/
  Dieu dit: "M-x Lumière". Et la lumière fut.

Wine passes WGA test

2005-08-05 Thread Ivan Leo Puoti
You can now validate for WGA downloads using wine and the Microsoft WGA validation tool,  and you'll 
get a thank you message from Microsoft for using Microsoft genuine downloads.
Also the anti wine checks appear to be disabled as the tool works in both windows 2000 and windows 
98 mode, however the wine registry key string is still in the binary, maybe it's just disabled.
In any case some EU officials have already expressed an interest in these checks, so if they enable 
them someone may end up getting another super fine.


Ivan.