Re: [WISPA] Restoring the Gulf Coast
Dear John, What a magnificent human being you are. I can't even begin to imagine what you went through, and the toll it has taken on your senses. Please don't suffer alone. Find someone to talk to - get it out of your system before it starts to fester. Linda Pond - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients: Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:48 PM Subject: [WISPA] Restoring the Gulf Coast I just got back last night from the gulf affected areas after helping crews establish Internet and phone service for use by evacuees and assistance staff. It looks like a thermo-nuclear device detonated on the gulf coast. Bay of St. Louis (across from Gulf port) is nothing but a landfill with bull-dozed paths through the debris to clear roadways. I cried, everyone cried, it was life altering. On television it is awful but you can go to the other room when you are watching on television. When you are there you cannot get away from it. I thought I was going to have an anxiety attack when I first got to Bay of St. Louis. You cannot smell or feel the sense of what it is like there unless you are actually there. I took pictures but wondered why. It was almost a sick feeling to photograph such devastation. I came home last night and I still feel a little shell shocked. I am not right. I am definitely more right in the head than those who lived through the experience and those who have been there since day one. I don't know how people who are helping can last as long as they are. There are people there who have been helping non-stop for 2 weeks. I cannot imagine it. I spent four days helping and thought I was going to fall apart mentally and physically. I am not as strong as I thought I was. At least I did some good there. I am glad I went even though I will never be completely the same person ever again. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504
Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504 On July 27 Senators John Ensign and John McCain introduced S. 1504, the Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment and Consumer Choice Act, which among other things, abolishes cable franchising; reduces cable franchise fees (perhaps substantially); apparently (we say apparently because the bill is not entirely clear on these points) grants video providers the right to use public rights of way in perpetuity; apparently abolishes all zoning of cellular towers; apparently abolishes telephone franchises and fees; and attempts to prevent governments from providing the public with communications service. Senate Bill S.1504 is available here; a summary is available here and Sen John Ensign's floor remarks are available here. http://www.varnumlaw.com/services/cable/telephone_entry.php (See web site for full review and links.) (Draft legislation is at:) http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/News/09152005_staff_disc.pdf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504
Hm. Kris, know anything about this? Is this something that wispa should stand behind? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504 Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504 On July 27 Senators John Ensign and John McCain introduced S. 1504, the Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment and Consumer Choice Act, which among other things, abolishes cable franchising; reduces cable franchise fees (perhaps substantially); apparently (we say apparently because the bill is not entirely clear on these points) grants video providers the right to use public rights of way in perpetuity; apparently abolishes all zoning of cellular towers; apparently abolishes telephone franchises and fees; and attempts to prevent governments from providing the public with communications service. Senate Bill S.1504 is available here; a summary is available here and Sen John Ensign's floor remarks are available here. http://www.varnumlaw.com/services/cable/telephone_entry.php (See web site for full review and links.) (Draft legislation is at:) http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/News/09152005_staff_disc.pdf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations
More pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/katrinawireless/ Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:21 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations I wish 'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not necessarily of the destruction, but of the work that they are doing. Like Mac 200' up a tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones andPC's,things like that. Second-does anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'? Other groups are putting out the things they have done and getting press. Our group should be showing some more press with pictures of people using our installations. Third-I sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to friends-relatives-co workers asking them to go to the www.wispa.org site and donate. A few responded back that they did do it. Maybe when some have time you can do the same. I asked if they could donate $10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out of it. Not much but buys some gas or healthier food. I just donated another $100 myself. Walter W. Stumpf Jr. Xanadu Group Inc. Cognigen Founders' Club member 179 Statesville Quarry Road Lafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA 973-702-3899 fax 775-667-1995 WISPA member http://ld.net/?wstumpf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations
Ok, let me clear this up... I'm talking about a site which simply documents the efforts of all the wireless teams down south... Just who and what and where. Mark North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot netFast Internet, NO WIRES!- - Original Message - From: Mark Koskenmaki To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations If someone wants to do the web work and put up the scripting... I'll donate a domain name, hosting, and at least a gig of space Mark North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot netFast Internet, NO WIRES!- - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish To: 'WISPA General List' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations Walter, Here is a link to some of the pictures I took while John and I were down there this weekend. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wispa_rick_harnish/44998312/ I have some of Mac up on a tower 200 but I have filled up my allotment right now. I am hoping to get an upgrade to a larger account very soon. Concerning the press, we have been generating press releases and have gotten responses from the Washington Post, Network World, LATimes and the NYTimes to name a few. New America also did a nice piece last week. Any help you can give in that department is appreciated. With all the Katrina news lately, stories like this seem to get lost. Thanks, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:21 PMTo: wireless@wispa.orgCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations I wish 'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not necessarily of the destruction, but of the work that they are doing. Like Mac 200' up a tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones andPC's,things like that. Second-does anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'? Other groups are putting out the things they have done and getting press. Our group should be showing some more press with pictures of people using our installations. Third-I sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to friends-relatives-co workers asking them to go to the www.wispa.org site and donate. A few responded back that they did do it. Maybe when some have time you can do the same. I asked if they could donate $10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out of it. Not much but buys some gas or healthier food. I just donated another $100 myself. Walter W. Stumpf Jr.Xanadu Group Inc.Cognigen Founders' Club member179 Statesville Quarry RoadLafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA973-702-3899fax 775-667-1995WISPA memberhttp://ld.net/?wstumpf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [Emergency-Relief] [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations
Hey Gang, Just a REALLY fast email from Bay St. Louis - - Waveland Mississippi - - - - - - - we are now running a 45 meg pipe into town!! This is the second email sent through terrestrial link so stand bu for an update tonight. I havent had internet acces, I have been on towers from 7:00am to dark:30 and just havent had the energy to post via a satellite link. I apologize for this, but my arse is dragging 10 feet behind me right now!! Time for a bath, a bunch of brew and LUNCH Mac Rick Harnish wrote: Walter, Here is a link to some of the pictures I took while John and I were down there this weekend. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wispa_rick_harnish/44998312/ I have some of Mac up on a tower 200’ but I have filled up my allotment right now. I am hoping to get an upgrade to a larger account very soon. Concerning the press, we have been generating press releases and have gotten responses from the Washington Post, Network World, LATimes and the NYTimes to name a few. New America also did a nice piece last week. Any help you can give in that department is appreciated. With all the Katrina news lately, stories like this seem to get lost. Thanks, **/Rick Harnish/** /President/ /OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc./// /260-827-2482 Office/ /260-307-4000 Cell/ /260-918-4340 VoIP/// /www.oibw.net http://www.oibw.net// **/[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/** **/ /***/ http://www.oibw.net//* **//** http://www.wispa.org/ *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:21 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations I wish 'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not necessarily of the destruction, but of the work that they are doing. Like Mac 200' up a tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones and PC's, things like that. Second-does anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'? Other groups are putting out the things they have done and getting press. Our group should be showing some more press with pictures of people using our installations. Third-I sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to friends-relatives-co workers asking them to go to the www.wispa.org http://www.wispa.org site and donate. A few responded back that they did do it. Maybe when some have time you can do the same. I asked if they could donate $10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out of it. Not much but buys some gas or healthier food. I just donated another $100 myself. Walter W. Stumpf Jr. Xanadu Group Inc. Cognigen Founders' Club member 179 Statesville Quarry Road Lafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA 973-702-3899 fax 775-667-1995 WISPA member http://ld.net/?wstumpf -- Mac Dearman www.inetsouth.com High Speed Internet for the South 318-728-8600 318-450-4101 NOC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [Emergency-Relief] [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations
Yee Haw, The POT BELLY SNEECHES RULE! Congrats Mac! Now go see that beautiful wife of yours. Your two days late for your 25th anniversary. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [Emergency-Relief] [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations Hey Gang, Just a REALLY fast email from Bay St. Louis - - Waveland Mississippi - - - - - - - we are now running a 45 meg pipe into town!! This is the second email sent through terrestrial link so stand bu for an update tonight. I havent had internet acces, I have been on towers from 7:00am to dark:30 and just havent had the energy to post via a satellite link. I apologize for this, but my arse is dragging 10 feet behind me right now!! Time for a bath, a bunch of brew and LUNCH Mac Rick Harnish wrote: Walter, Here is a link to some of the pictures I took while John and I were down there this weekend. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wispa_rick_harnish/44998312/ I have some of Mac up on a tower 200' but I have filled up my allotment right now. I am hoping to get an upgrade to a larger account very soon. Concerning the press, we have been generating press releases and have gotten responses from the Washington Post, Network World, LATimes and the NYTimes to name a few. New America also did a nice piece last week. Any help you can give in that department is appreciated. With all the Katrina news lately, stories like this seem to get lost. Thanks, **/Rick Harnish/** /President/ /OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc./// /260-827-2482 Office/ /260-307-4000 Cell/ /260-918-4340 VoIP/// /www.oibw.net http://www.oibw.net// **/[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/** **/ /***/ http://www.oibw.net//* **//** http://www.wispa.org/ *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:21 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations I wish 'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not necessarily of the destruction, but of the work that they are doing. Like Mac 200' up a tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones and PC's, things like that. Second-does anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'? Other groups are putting out the things they have done and getting press. Our group should be showing some more press with pictures of people using our installations. Third-I sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to friends-relatives-co workers asking them to go to the www.wispa.org http://www.wispa.org site and donate. A few responded back that they did do it. Maybe when some have time you can do the same. I asked if they could donate $10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out of it. Not much but buys some gas or healthier food. I just donated another $100 myself. Walter W. Stumpf Jr. Xanadu Group Inc. Cognigen Founders' Club member 179 Statesville Quarry Road Lafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA 973-702-3899 fax 775-667-1995 WISPA member http://ld.net/?wstumpf -- Mac Dearman www.inetsouth.com High Speed Internet for the South 318-728-8600 318-450-4101 NOC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504
Don't let the title fool ya. This bill is written by the Telco. Passing this as is, could be the worst thing that could ever happen to a wireless provider, As ILEC's tripple play to the home, gets installed in turbo mode. What iritates me most, is this type of legislation that does not adequately support WISPs as an intrical player in the telecom market. Based on some possible changes, this bill could be turned into a bill that actually could help WISPs. WISPA should have a formal response to this legislation, as far as modifications, we suggest. I believe its likely that a version of this bill could go through that gives ILECs more preferencial treatment. It critical that rules to support WISPs are also added to the bill, if it does go through. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504 Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504 On July 27 Senators John Ensign and John McCain introduced S. 1504, the Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment and Consumer Choice Act, which among other things, abolishes cable franchising; reduces cable franchise fees (perhaps substantially); apparently (we say apparently because the bill is not entirely clear on these points) grants video providers the right to use public rights of way in perpetuity; apparently abolishes all zoning of cellular towers; apparently abolishes telephone franchises and fees; and attempts to prevent governments from providing the public with communications service. Senate Bill S.1504 is available here; a summary is available here and Sen John Ensign's floor remarks are available here. http://www.varnumlaw.com/services/cable/telephone_entry.php (See web site for full review and links.) (Draft legislation is at:) http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/News/09152005_staff_disc.pdf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act:Senate Bill S.1504
NO, unless we trade support for support back. This is a bill to promote Rapid TELCO expansion. Consumer Choice meaning, Choice to use Verizon instead of Cable Franchise. The question is, do WISPs consider the cable industry or ILEC industry a bigger competitor? Making ILECs a stronger competitor does not make Cable companies a lesser competitor to us. The question is, will the senators consider adding text to support WISPs, so that Consumer Choice is really a consumer choice bill? My opinion is, the longer it takes ILECs to build out their fiber to the home, the better off WISPs are to gain market share. ILEC fiber buildout is cost effective only as a tripple play in my mind. Helping ILECS provide video, I don't see as very smart. However, these rules could be beneficial to CLECs and ISPs, so that they can build out their own network also offering the tripple play in competition with ILECs and Cable Companies, using the rules of the bill. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Kristopher Twomey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act:Senate Bill S.1504 Hm. Kris, know anything about this? Is this something that wispa should stand behind? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504 Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504 On July 27 Senators John Ensign and John McCain introduced S. 1504, the Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment and Consumer Choice Act, which among other things, abolishes cable franchising; reduces cable franchise fees (perhaps substantially); apparently (we say apparently because the bill is not entirely clear on these points) grants video providers the right to use public rights of way in perpetuity; apparently abolishes all zoning of cellular towers; apparently abolishes telephone franchises and fees; and attempts to prevent governments from providing the public with communications service. Senate Bill S.1504 is available here; a summary is available here and Sen John Ensign's floor remarks are available here. http://www.varnumlaw.com/services/cable/telephone_entry.php (See web site for full review and links.) (Draft legislation is at:) http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/News/09152005_staff_disc.pdf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations
I'd been following the wordpress site (great work). The format for pictures changed a couple times over the past week, and as of the last format change all links to pictures seem to be gone. Am I missing it? Rich - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I'm talking about a site which simply documents the efforts of all the wireless teams down south... Just who and what and where. http://www.radioresponse.org/wordpress/ -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations
Walter, here is a link to the photos I took while down at the northern Louisiana camp. I had to head back to work, when the rest of the group went to the coast. Also, go to flickr.com and do a tag search for katrinawireless for more pics. From the guys. I cant get the pics to show up on my blog yet though. Imm gonna try wordpress next on my site. http://www.midconqc.com/gallery Camp Shagnasty and Relief pics are the two folders from my trip. Hope this helps Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:21 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations I wish 'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not necessarily of the destruction, but of the work that they are doing. Like Mac 200' up a tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones andPC's,things like that. Second-does anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'? Other groups are putting out the things they have done and getting press. Our group should be showing some more press with pictures of people using our installations. Third-I sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to friends-relatives-co workers asking them to go to the www.wispa.org site and donate. A few responded back that they did do it. Maybe when some have time you can do the same. I asked if they could donate $10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out of it. Not much but buys some gas or healthier food. I just donated another $100 myself. Walter W. Stumpf Jr. Xanadu Group Inc. Cognigen Founders' Club member 179 Statesville Quarry Road Lafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA 973-702-3899 fax 775-667-1995 WISPA member http://ld.net/?wstumpf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone?
The high latency of satelite based internet makes it un-friendly for VOIP, VPN, online gaming, etc. The slow upload speed that is usually offered doesn't make it very friendly for much else. I have considered getting one to redirect P2P traffic to in order to free up T1's. Pete Davis NoDial.net David A. Browning wrote: I use satellite in my mobile wireless distribution trailers. With commercial grade accounts the bandwidth is decent, but the inherent latency makes VOIP typically unusable. You of course notice some delay on the click through items as well, but what do you expect for a signal that has to travel 50,000 miles round trip? There are better systems than Direcway, but the equipment costs are ten times more. Direcway's systems are based on TV signal and data has to be converted in the transition, others are based off data signals only have far lower latency. Thanks! David A. Browning Advanced Wireless Networks (541) 280-5834 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone? It's common outside the US as there are often not good connections to even the largest cities in many countries. In the US I've heard of it being done. Usually the costs are much higher and the performance lower than lan based systems (for $300 to $400 per month you can get a 5 year lease on a LOT of high end backhaul gear and cover many tens of miles). laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone? Hello everyone, Has anyone successfully used satellite (ie, Directway 7700 or similar) as their source of upstream bandwidth? If so or if not, why? How did it turn out? Any suggestions? T1's are hard to come by here, and I'm still shopping for alternatives. Jason Wallace WISP Startup in AZ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MRTG
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't see XP anywhere in here http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl I'm asking, what specific thing do I download from there. Someone hold my hand here. :) I don't have a clue. Brian Jory Privett wrote: You need the active Perl instillation files. Apache is a web server. It is used so you can view the files made by MRTG over the internet. If you only care to view them on the one local PC then you don't need to worry about it.Yes both will work on an XP Desktop. That's where mine runs. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MRTG What do I need from here http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl and what is Apache? Will it work on my XP desktop. Thats all I have to work with. Jory Privett wrote: That is all you need id you will use the Microsoft Web server. If you want you can download Apache http://www.apache.org and it will work also. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] MRTG I need to get MRTG on my XP computer so I can graph usage. I don't know what to download. I guess I need some ActivePerl. http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl I don't know what to get for XP. And for MRTG, I downloaded from here http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/pub/ I downloaded this one, MRTG-2.12.2.zip 19-Jun-2005 15:40 1.6M(5th from the top) Sodo I have the right MRTG, and what ActivePerl do I need? Do I need anything else? If so, what and where (be specific). For now I just need to get everything downloaded I need. Then I can attempt to put it all together. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone?
Not to mention that TV programming coming from a satellite is digital and therefore data, not TV signal (analog). Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Joe Fiero [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:51:25 -0400 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone? The latency is not due to the signal type, but the physics of traveling that distance. DirectWay is data, not TV signals. The service is operated by DirecTV, but it is no different than any other VSAT terminal. Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Browning Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone? I use satellite in my mobile wireless distribution trailers. With commercial grade accounts the bandwidth is decent, but the inherent latency makes VOIP typically unusable. You of course notice some delay on the click through items as well, but what do you expect for a signal that has to travel 50,000 miles round trip? There are better systems than Direcway, but the equipment costs are ten times more. Direcway's systems are based on TV signal and data has to be converted in the transition, others are based off data signals only have far lower latency. Thanks! David A. Browning Advanced Wireless Networks (541) 280-5834 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone? It's common outside the US as there are often not good connections to even the largest cities in many countries. In the US I've heard of it being done. Usually the costs are much higher and the performance lower than lan based systems (for $300 to $400 per month you can get a 5 year lease on a LOT of high end backhaul gear and cover many tens of miles). laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone? Hello everyone, Has anyone successfully used satellite (ie, Directway 7700 or similar) as their source of upstream bandwidth? If so or if not, why? How did it turn out? Any suggestions? T1's are hard to come by here, and I'm still shopping for alternatives. Jason Wallace WISP Startup in AZ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations
The blog is interesting, but it doesn't do that. It has some entries and some unlabeled photos. Interesting, but not really documenting. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I'm talking about a site which simply documents the efforts of all the wireless teams down south... Just who and what and where. http://www.radioresponse.org/wordpress/ -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: Wireless Digest, Vol 7, Issue 120
Thanks Mike and all who posted links! Walter In a message dated 9/21/2005 8:23:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Message: 3Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:33:59 -0500From: "Mike Delp" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and DonationsTo: "'WISPA General List'" wireless@wispa.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Walter, here is a link to the photos I took while down at the northernLouisiana camp. I had to head back to work, when the rest of the group wentto the coast. Also, go to flickr.com and do a tag search forkatrinawireless for more pics. From the guys. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations
If I had a link to a site which is full documentation of all the work Mac and the boys have done, I'd send out a mass email to all my subs and everyone I know asking them to donate a $20. Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish 'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not necessarily of the destruction, but of the work that they are doing. Like Mac 200' up a tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones andPC's,things like that. Second-does anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'? Other groups are putting out the things they have done and getting press. Our group should be showing some more press with pictures of people using our installations. Third-I sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to friends-relatives-co workers asking them to go to the www.wispa.org site and donate. A few responded back that they did do it. Maybe when some have time you can do the same. I asked if they could donate $10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out of it. Not much but buys some gas or healthier food. I just donated another $100 myself. Walter W. Stumpf Jr. Xanadu Group Inc. Cognigen Founders' Club member 179 Statesville Quarry Road Lafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA 973-702-3899 fax 775-667-1995 WISPA member http://ld.net/?wstumpf No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Mark Koskenmaki wrote: The blog is interesting, but it doesn't do that. It has some entries and some unlabeled photos. Interesting, but not really documenting. THen, you do it. If you can do things so much better than everyone else (and it seems that way to me), then just do it. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MRTG
Brian, Look here, all in one package fairly straightforward install. http://www.openxtra.co.uk/products/mrtg-xtra.php Free version too!!! Barry Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but I don't see XP anywhere in here http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl I'm asking, what specific thing do I download from there. Someone hold my hand here. :) I don't have a clue. Brian Jory Privett wrote: You need the active Perl instillation files. Apache is a web server. It is used so you can view the files made by MRTG over the internet. If you only care to view them on the one local PC then you don't need to worry about it.Yes both will work on an XP Desktop. That's where mine runs. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - *From:* Brian Rohrbacher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:45 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] MRTG What do I need from here http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl and what is Apache? Will it work on my XP desktop. Thats all I have to work with. Jory Privett wrote: That is all you need id you will use the Microsoft Web server. If you want you can download Apache http://www.apache.org and it will work also. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - *From:* Brian Rohrbacher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:27 PM *Subject:* [WISPA] MRTG I need to get MRTG on my XP computer so I can graph usage. I don't know what to download. I guess I need some ActivePerl. http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl I don't know what to get for XP. And for MRTG, I downloaded from here http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/pub/ I downloaded this one, [ ] MRTG-2.12.2.zip http://people.ee.ethz.ch/%7Eoetiker/webtools/mrtg/pub/mrtg-2.12.2.zip 19-Jun-2005 15:40 1.6M(5th from the top) Sodo I have the right MRTG, and what ActivePerl do I need? Do I need anything else? If so, what and where (be specific). For now I just need to get everything downloaded I need. Then I can attempt to put it all together. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations
I can't. Im not there. I just offered space and hosting and a domain for someone to be able to document what they're doing. I'm sorry if you take offense at the idea that the blog, though neat and interesting, doesn't solidly document what's going on. I sorta doubt the folks doing the stuff have the time, really. Not unless it was as convenient as the blog. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Mark Koskenmaki wrote: The blog is interesting, but it doesn't do that. It has some entries and some unlabeled photos. Interesting, but not really documenting. THen, you do it. If you can do things so much better than everyone else (and it seems that way to me), then just do it. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
