Re: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

2006-01-25 Thread Jeff Sullivan

I have a 2.4g Cisco AP and a 5.8g MT backhaul link on a FM tower at 99.5mhz.

My gear is at 230' of a 300' tower. The FM array is 10 bays that is fed 
by 50k watts, and is only about 15' above my AP and BH links.

The Cisco is basemounted and the MT radio is on the tower at 230'.

No problems what-so-ever.

Jeff

Chadd Thompson wrote:

Curious if anyone here has co-located on an FM tower? If so care to share
your experiences?

Thanks,
Chadd
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Re: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

2006-01-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Yeah.

It's, by far, my most troublesome site.

Not all the fault of the FM system I'm sure.  There are 3 or 4 competitors 
only a mile away.  And my antennas have to mount behind another tower etc. 
But the general noise there is so high I have to take my volt meter outside 
of the building in order to get an accurate reading.  I hate being up there!


I'd much rather have two other systems with no other users in the area than 
one like this.


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Curious if anyone here has co-located on an FM tower? If so care to share
your experiences?

Thanks,
Chadd
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Re: [WISPA] FM tower co-location

2006-01-25 Thread Jenco Wireless
He he !!  As far as I know everything still works :-)




On 1/26/06, Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Brad, hope you already had all the kids you want.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 114 S. Walnut St.
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


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 I have.  The station on the same tower as me is not a super high power
 station - I think they broadcast at 12,000 watts (we have one close
 that does 75,000 Watts) !!  The RF engineer for the station told me
 that 40' was safe for short exposure.  I have some gear closer to 12'
 away.  They are required to turn down the power if you are going to be
 close.  I don't want to ask them to do that too much (I am sure with
 the rent they pay they can dictate terms to the tower owners, if they
 are not the owners (not sure)).  I bought an RF radiation suit.
 Unless I am going to be very close for a long period (hours), I just
 work in the suit.  I also had a Narda RF monitor, until it had a 460'
 fall - oops.  The bottom line is 50-300 MHz is very dangerous for
 human exposure.  It will cook you like a microwave oven starting with
 your eyes and testicles.  Be careful 



 Brad Hagstrom
 Jenco Wireless





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  your experiences?
 
  Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] TRANGO!!

2006-01-25 Thread John Thomas

You read my mind. If they even had 90 degree antennas it would be great

John

Blair Davis wrote:


That is too bad

Since my biggest tower has less than 30 users, putting 6 $1000 ap's on 
one tower just doesn't make sense


On the other hand, putting 3 AP's with 120deg antennas on a tower is 
something I can justify.  (just in case some one is listening)



Travis Johnson wrote:

No, they do not. I've asked for that exact thing since 2001 and 
original 5800 AP's. I've heard there may be something coming 
however... ;)


Travis
Microserv

Blair Davis wrote:

Anyone know if the Trango 5.8GHz ap's have an external antenna 
connection?  out here, 60deg sectors on an ap are a bit small














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[WISPA] Fwd: Press Release - PePLink enhances wireless coverage with 900MHz frequency operation

2006-01-25 Thread Dylan Oliver
PepLink is also promising 2.4 GHz CPE with WPA2. Far as 802.11 goes, I
think they're on the right track with this and 900 MHz gear based on
the Ubiquiti card.-- Forwarded message --From: Maggie Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Jan 25, 2006 5:14 AM
Subject: Press Release - PePLink enhances wireless coverage with 900MHz frequency operationTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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For immediate releaseHong Kong, Jan 25, 2006 – PePLink, a leader in manufacturing and marketing broadband
devices, integrated solutions and embedded platforms, today introduced
a municipal Wi-Fi networking solution with frequency operation at
900MHz and transmit power at 700mW to highly enhance the wireless
coverage. The solution consists of a multi-SSID advanced access point –
PePLink PolePoint UltraPower 9 and a secure Wi-Fi Customer Premise
Equipment (CPE) - PePLink Surf UltraPower 9.

PePLink's
PolePoint UltraPower 9 and Surf UltraPower 9 offer incredible range
advantage over 802.11 solutions at 2.4 or 5GHz in obstructive
environment and at the same time support the feature sets of 802.11
standards. The devices are equipped with the SuperRange 9 – from
Ubiquiti Networks.

By
supporting 900MHz with 700mW transmit power, PolePoint UltraPower 9 and
Surf UltraPower 9 can help the WISP to implement a citywide wireless
network where obstacles like tall buildings weaken the signal strength
while using standard 802.11 frequency operation, said Alex Chan,
Managing Director of PePLink. The initial investment and ownership
cost can be dramatically reduced by deploying much fewer numbers of
access points in the field.

Other
than 900MHz, the PePLink PolePoint and Surf series also operates at
802.11a/b/g frequency. Featuring multiple SSID, the PePLink PolePoint
can masquerade up to 16 access points on a single platform. Each access
point can be configured with its own security policy (WEP, WPA-PSK,
WPA-Enterprise, 802.1x with Dynamic WEP) and authentication mechanism.
This enables the separation of Virtual LAN (VLAN) based on security and
performance requirements.

The
PePLink Surf connects wireless WAN to Ethernet LAN. It provides 802.1x
supplicant services as a network termination, and delivers a clear
demarcation point to the end user. With the secure authentication and
data encryption, WISP can gain competitive advantage by offering
industry standard for secure access. 

For more information on PePLink PolePoint UltraPower 9 and Surf UltraPower 9, please visit 
http://www.peplink.com.

About PePLink
PePLink
is a leader in manufacturing and marketing broadband devices,
integrated solutions and embedded platforms headquartered in Hong Kong. Embracing an open source philosophy that assures quality, innovation and superior customer relations, 
PePLink
has developed a new generation of Linux-powered devices to bring
innovative features to the market. PePLink's products have been
deployed in various leading Service Providers, Small and Medium
Businesses, System Builders and Tech-savvy Users around the world. 

Established
by one of the most experienced and respected network integration house
in Asia Pacific, PePLink has been creating technology solutions for
over a decade. Additional information about PePLink and its products is
available at http://www.peplink.com.



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[WISPA] USF tax changes?

2006-01-25 Thread Blair Davis

Does WISPA have a stand on this?

http://techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035-5959140.html?tag=nl.e550

As one who has built my network without any public money, I have no 
interest in collecting special taxes.  I have more than enough paperwork 
now...


I also don't want my competitors to get government money to build their 
networks.  But locally, I have found out that they are getting 
government grants to expand into my area.  Having seen their install 
rates, monthly fees and tower provisioning costs, they would not be 
making any money if they did not have the government footing the bill.


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Re: [WISPA] USF tax changes?

2006-01-25 Thread Jeromie Reeves

I know my stand on this: Evil Evil Evil

Jeromie

Blair Davis wrote:


Does WISPA have a stand on this?

http://techrepublic.com.com/2100-1035-5959140.html?tag=nl.e550

As one who has built my network without any public money, I have no 
interest in collecting special taxes.  I have more than enough 
paperwork now...


I also don't want my competitors to get government money to build 
their networks.  But locally, I have found out that they are getting 
government grants to expand into my area.  Having seen their install 
rates, monthly fees and tower provisioning costs, they would not be 
making any money if they did not have the government footing the bill.


--

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West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648








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RE: [WISPA] 3 ft Dual Pol antennas

2006-01-25 Thread dustin jurman
Next time someone goes up I'll have them take some pictures.

Dustin Jurman
President
Rapid Systems Corporation
1211 N. Westshore Blvd
Tampa, FL 33607
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it has the Chester cheese doodle mount

Lol...would you mind posting a pic of what such a mount looks like?

-Charles

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[WISPA] 900b mhz omni

2006-01-25 Thread ccooper


Anybody know where i can find an H-pol 900 mhz omni w/ higer gain than 9Db?
thanks, 
chris
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Re: [WISPA] 900b mhz omni

2006-01-25 Thread Anthony Morin
I'll be in the market for one of these too.  I've heard that Pac Wireless makes a good one.  Anyone know of other high quality 900MHz omni in H-pol?  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Anybody know where i can find an H-pol 900 mhz omni w/ higer gain than 9Db?thanks, chris-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/  Velocity Wireless
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