Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP
"Mainstream" WISPs need good backhaul to interconnect tower locations. Whatever a WISP uses I am guessing it does not cost much different than what I am choosing to use in the application I am using. I feel I made a good decision. You do not I made a good choice. I think others could benefit from choosing the path I chose. You do not. Let's leave it at that. Scriv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Mainstream = affordable residential. The vast majority of available customers for WISP's are residential, and if you can make a business case for using any current alvarion product to provide residential broadband at reasonable prices, I'd love to see it. Niche WISP's are ones that are only high end customers, or business only, etc. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP I disagree. I weighed the performance specs and price and I feel I will save money with this platform. If you are saying it is more expensive than other platforms then you are right but the performance boost and wider coverage per cell make up for much of the higher cost.. I disagree that "mainstream" WISPs cannot afford this. I know most of you guys can. If you have ANY money behind you or ANY borrowing power at all then Alvarion has a good option for offering access to a high performance PtoMP backhaul or service to higher end clients. This is a good option. With that said I am not saying it is the ONLY option but saying this is out of reach of "mainstream" WISPs is not a fair statement. Check the pricing and see if this can suit your needs before you assume it cannot. Scriv Mark Koskenmaki wrote: It is not financially feasible for a mainstream WISP, who is attempting to serve all types of internet customers to rely on BA for anything but specialized application., It's just too expensive. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! --- - - - Original Message - From: "Brad Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP Mark, Come on.The whole BreezeAccess product family was made and continues to get upgrades for WISP's. There are well over 1,000 WISP's using our gear in the states alone. You won't find many of them here or on other WISP threads but it doesn't mean they don't exist. Saying we're "niche" and not "mainstream" and there is some division is a real strech. Brad - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP With that said I still think Alvarion is a far better platform than Canopy which is strictly my opinion and has no basis in fact. In the past I have been put-off by a perceived arrogance I have seen by some Alvarion representatives who have insisted previously that they had the "only" viable solution for wireless broadband and seemed as though they were claiming almost a "holier than thou" behavior toward anyone stating another opinion than their own. I have also seen a terribly biased negative attitude toward Alvarion by many WISPs who wanted to drive home the "WISP=Cheap" mentality to the point of alienating Alvarion from our entire market segment. Both Alvarion and most WISPs have lost a great ally in each other and I suspect both sides have suffered from such negativity. I am hoping to see this division closed between the typical WISP operator and Alvarion. Until Alvarion makes a product that's viable for more than "niche" market WISP, the 'division' is simply going to continue to exist. They have certain products that WISP's will find useful and valuable, but they don't make mainstream WISP "last mile" equipment. I have been expecting to see them announce something, but so far, I've not seen anything. The ball's in thier court. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! -- -- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsu
Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP
Mainstream = affordable residential. The vast majority of available customers for WISP's are residential, and if you can make a business case for using any current alvarion product to provide residential broadband at reasonable prices, I'd love to see it. Niche WISP's are ones that are only high end customers, or business only, etc. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP > I disagree. I weighed the performance specs and price and I feel I will > save money with this platform. If you are saying it is more expensive > than other platforms then you are right but the performance boost and > wider coverage per cell make up for much of the higher cost.. I disagree > that "mainstream" WISPs cannot afford this. I know most of you guys can. > If you have ANY money behind you or ANY borrowing power at all then > Alvarion has a good option for offering access to a high performance > PtoMP backhaul or service to higher end clients. This is a good option. > With that said I am not saying it is the ONLY option but saying this is > out of reach of "mainstream" WISPs is not a fair statement. Check the > pricing and see if this can suit your needs before you assume it cannot. > Scriv > > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > >It is not financially feasible for a mainstream WISP, who is attempting to > >serve all types of internet customers to rely on BA for anything but > >specialized application., It's just too expensive. > > > > > >North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > >personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > >sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > >Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > >--- - > >- > >- Original Message - > >From: "Brad Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'WISPA General List'" > >Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:53 AM > >Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP > > > > > > > > > >>Mark, Come on.The whole BreezeAccess product family was made and > >>continues to get upgrades for WISP's. There are well over 1,000 WISP's > >> > >> > >using > > > > > >>our gear in the states alone. You won't find many of them here or on other > >>WISP threads but it doesn't mean they don't exist. Saying we're "niche" > >> > >> > >and > > > > > >>not "mainstream" and there is some division is a real strech. Brad > >> > >>- Original Message - > >>From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "WISPA General List" > >>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:51 PM > >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>With that said I still think Alvarion is a far better platform than > >>>Canopy which is strictly my opinion and has no basis in fact. In the > >>>past I have been put-off by a perceived arrogance I have seen by some > >>>Alvarion representatives who have insisted previously that they had the > >>>"only" viable solution for wireless broadband and seemed as though they > >>>were claiming almost a "holier than thou" behavior toward anyone stating > >>>another opinion than their own. I have also seen a terribly biased > >>>negative attitude toward Alvarion by many WISPs who wanted to drive home > >>>the "WISP=Cheap" mentality to the point of alienating Alvarion from our > >>>entire market segment. Both Alvarion and most WISPs have lost a great > >>>ally in each other and I suspect both sides have suffered from such > >>>negativity. I am hoping to see this division closed between the typical > >>>WISP operator and Alvarion. > >>> > >>> > >>Until Alvarion makes a product that's viable for more than "niche" market > >>WISP, the 'division' is simply going to continue to exist. They have > >>certain products that WISP's will find useful and valuable, but they don't > >>make mainstream WISP "last mile" equipment. I have been expecting to see > >>them announce something, but so far, I've not seen anything. > >> > >>The ball's in thier court. > >> > >> > >>North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 > >>personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net > >>sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net > >>Fast Internet, NO WIRES! > >>-- > >> > >> > >-- > > > > > >>- > >> > >>-- > >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listi
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Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP
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