Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-16 Thread John Scrivner
"Mainstream" WISPs need good backhaul to interconnect tower locations. 
Whatever a WISP uses I am guessing it does not cost much different than 
what I am choosing to use in the application I am using. I feel I made a 
good decision. You do not I made a good choice. I think others could 
benefit from choosing the path I chose. You do not. Let's leave it at that.

Scriv


Mark Koskenmaki wrote:


Mainstream = affordable residential.

The vast majority of available customers for WISP's are residential, and if
you can make a business case for using any current alvarion product to
provide residential broadband at reasonable prices, I'd love to see it.

Niche WISP's are ones that are only high end customers, or business only,
etc.




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From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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I disagree. I weighed the performance specs and price and I feel I will
save money with this platform. If you are saying it is more expensive
than other platforms then you are right but the performance boost and
wider coverage per cell make up for much of the higher cost.. I disagree
that "mainstream" WISPs cannot afford this. I know most of you guys can.
If you have ANY money behind you or ANY borrowing power at all then
Alvarion has a good option for offering access to a high performance
PtoMP backhaul or service to higher end clients. This is a good option.
With that said I am not saying it is the ONLY option but saying this is
out of reach of "mainstream" WISPs is not a fair statement. Check the
pricing and see if this can suit your needs before you assume it cannot.
Scriv


Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

   


It is not financially feasible for a mainstream WISP, who is attempting
 


to
 


serve all types of internet customers to rely on BA for anything but
specialized application.,   It's just too expensive.


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personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
 


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From: "Brad Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:53 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP




 


Mark, Come on.The whole BreezeAccess product family was made and
continues to get upgrades for WISP's. There are well over 1,000 WISP's


   


using


 


our gear in the states alone. You won't find many of them here or on
   


other
 


WISP threads but it doesn't mean they don't exist. Saying we're "niche"


   


and


 


not "mainstream" and there is some division is a real strech. Brad

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From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP




   


With that said I still think Alvarion is a far better platform than
Canopy which is strictly my opinion and has no basis in fact. In the
past I have been put-off by a perceived arrogance I have seen by some
Alvarion representatives who have insisted previously that they had the
"only" viable solution for wireless broadband and seemed as though they
were claiming almost a "holier than thou" behavior toward anyone
 


stating
 


another opinion than their own. I have also seen a terribly biased
negative attitude toward Alvarion by many WISPs who wanted to drive
 


home
 


the "WISP=Cheap" mentality to the point of alienating Alvarion from our
entire market segment. Both Alvarion and most WISPs have lost a great
ally in each other and I suspect both sides have suffered from such
negativity. I am hoping to see this division closed between the typical
WISP operator and Alvarion.


 


Until Alvarion makes a product that's viable for more than "niche"
   


market
 


WISP, the 'division' is simply going to continue to exist.  They have
certain products that WISP's will find useful and valuable, but they
   


don't
 


make mainstream WISP "last mile" equipment.   I have been expecting to
   


see
 


them announce something, but so far, I've not seen anything.

The ball's in thier court.


North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
   


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Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-16 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Mainstream = affordable residential.

The vast majority of available customers for WISP's are residential, and if
you can make a business case for using any current alvarion product to
provide residential broadband at reasonable prices, I'd love to see it.

Niche WISP's are ones that are only high end customers, or business only,
etc.




North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!

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- Original Message - 
From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP


> I disagree. I weighed the performance specs and price and I feel I will
> save money with this platform. If you are saying it is more expensive
> than other platforms then you are right but the performance boost and
> wider coverage per cell make up for much of the higher cost.. I disagree
> that "mainstream" WISPs cannot afford this. I know most of you guys can.
> If you have ANY money behind you or ANY borrowing power at all then
> Alvarion has a good option for offering access to a high performance
> PtoMP backhaul or service to higher end clients. This is a good option.
> With that said I am not saying it is the ONLY option but saying this is
> out of reach of "mainstream" WISPs is not a fair statement. Check the
> pricing and see if this can suit your needs before you assume it cannot.
> Scriv
>
>
> Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
>
> >It is not financially feasible for a mainstream WISP, who is attempting
to
> >serve all types of internet customers to rely on BA for anything but
> >specialized application.,   It's just too expensive.
> >
> >
> >North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
> >personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
> >sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
> >Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
>
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> >-
> >- Original Message - 
> >From: "Brad Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> >Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:53 AM
> >Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Mark, Come on.The whole BreezeAccess product family was made and
> >>continues to get upgrades for WISP's. There are well over 1,000 WISP's
> >>
> >>
> >using
> >
> >
> >>our gear in the states alone. You won't find many of them here or on
other
> >>WISP threads but it doesn't mean they don't exist. Saying we're "niche"
> >>
> >>
> >and
> >
> >
> >>not "mainstream" and there is some division is a real strech. Brad
> >>
> >>- Original Message - 
> >>From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "WISPA General List" 
> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:51 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>With that said I still think Alvarion is a far better platform than
> >>>Canopy which is strictly my opinion and has no basis in fact. In the
> >>>past I have been put-off by a perceived arrogance I have seen by some
> >>>Alvarion representatives who have insisted previously that they had the
> >>>"only" viable solution for wireless broadband and seemed as though they
> >>>were claiming almost a "holier than thou" behavior toward anyone
stating
> >>>another opinion than their own. I have also seen a terribly biased
> >>>negative attitude toward Alvarion by many WISPs who wanted to drive
home
> >>>the "WISP=Cheap" mentality to the point of alienating Alvarion from our
> >>>entire market segment. Both Alvarion and most WISPs have lost a great
> >>>ally in each other and I suspect both sides have suffered from such
> >>>negativity. I am hoping to see this division closed between the typical
> >>>WISP operator and Alvarion.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Until Alvarion makes a product that's viable for more than "niche"
market
> >>WISP, the 'division' is simply going to continue to exist.  They have
> >>certain products that WISP's will find useful and valuable, but they
don't
> >>make mainstream WISP "last mile" equipment.   I have been expecting to
see
> >>them announce something, but so far, I've not seen anything.
> >>
> >>The ball's in thier court.
> >>
> >>
> >>North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
> >>personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
> >>sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
> >>Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
>
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[WISPA] Hotspot Controller

2006-04-16 Thread Bo Hamilton
Hello list.  Im looking for a hotspot controller that has the Credit card service built in?  Any help would be greatly a
ppreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Bo Hamilton
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[WISPA] Hotspot Controllers

2006-04-16 Thread Bo Hamilton
Hello list.  Im looking for a Hotspot controller that has a built in Credit card service.  Any input will be appreciated.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-16 Thread Dylan Oliver
On a related note, "Raising Capital: Get the Money You Need to Grow Your Business" is an excellent book.
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