[WISPA] mikrotik Mini Locking P.C.B. Support w/adhesive base

2006-07-24 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

https://secure.microplastics.com/metric_detail.asp?part=minilockpcbsupportfam=cbhardware

I am going to order some of these and am looking for a few other who 
want them too.  They are the ones that fit the 1/8 inch hole for the MT 
boards.
They are out of stock and it will be 4-6 weeks to manufacture them and 
they said they don't make a ton extra other than what is ordered.  Price 
looks like $120ish per 1000.  Pretty cheap, but if a bunch of people 
wanted 500 and I got 10,000 it might be cheaper.  Let me know.  Or if 
you know a source who can get them shipped soon, let me know.


Beian
--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Field Techs Non-Standard Installations

2006-07-24 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
We bill for extra stuff like that.  OR, more likely around here, we just 
tell the home owner what's needed and he'll have to make it happen.


Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:58 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Field Techs  Non-Standard Installations



We are starting to see more and more subscribers need custom
installations such as a vent pipe mount, aerial drop, trenching, etc.
How is everyone paying their sub-contractors when it comes to
non-standard installations? For instance, say you pay $75 to a
sub-contractor for a standard installation but when they arrive
at the job site, the subscriber needs a 10' ditch dug. If the
sub-contractor says he will dig the ditch for $25 do you just
tack this amount on to the subscriber's installation fee and then
pass it along to the sub-contractor or do you add say $10 - $20
to the amount the sub-contractor is going to charge you and then
bill the subscriber the inflated amount which would then have a
profit margin attached? Or, do you have the sub-contractor bill
the subscriber separately for digging the ditch or whatever else
they want/need done at their premises? In other words, do you
try to make a profit on the additional work performed by the
sub-contractor which falls outside a standard installation?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
===
$29.99 DSL High Speed Internet
$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
- No Phone Line Required for DSL
- FREE Activation  Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
- Locally Owned  Operated
- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
===
--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Field Techs Non-Standard Installations

2006-07-24 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I RARELY do crawl spaces or attics.  I'm not too keen on running into 
rattlers or poisonous spiders.  It's bad enough that I have to do those 
things at my own house!


If the space looks clean AND the customer is really nice I'll go ahead and 
use those spaces.  Most of the time they have to run the wire themselves 
(I'll help or leave the wire and go back on the install) though.  When I do 
it I try to do a very nice job on the outside of the house.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Field Techs  Non-Standard Installations


Can you define custom wire runs?  What do you consider a non-custom wire 
run if you're not going through the attic or whatever?  Do you just drill 
from the outside wall in or what?


I'm just curious as we try to take whatever route in with the cabling that 
makes it look the neatest and try our best to drill as few holes as 
possible.  Sometimes that's through an attic, crawl space, whatever.




- Original Message - 
From: N White [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Field Techs  Non-Standard Installations


We charge $85/hour for anything after standard installation. Standard 
installation includes installing and configuring the CPE and any customer 
computers that are present at the time of installation, including a 
installation of a router or switch if necessary. It does not include 
trenches, masts, custom wiring runs (attic, crawlspace, etc), or 
troubleshooting client PC problems.


Nick



KyWiFi LLC wrote:

We are starting to see more and more subscribers need custom
installations such as a vent pipe mount, aerial drop, trenching, etc.
How is everyone paying their sub-contractors when it comes to
non-standard installations? For instance, say you pay $75 to a
sub-contractor for a standard installation but when they arrive
at the job site, the subscriber needs a 10' ditch dug. If the
sub-contractor says he will dig the ditch for $25 do you just
tack this amount on to the subscriber's installation fee and then
pass it along to the sub-contractor or do you add say $10 - $20
to the amount the sub-contractor is going to charge you and then
bill the subscriber the inflated amount which would then have a
profit margin attached? Or, do you have the sub-contractor bill
the subscriber separately for digging the ditch or whatever else
they want/need done at their premises? In other words, do you
try to make a profit on the additional work performed by the
sub-contractor which falls outside a standard installation?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
===
$29.99 DSL High Speed Internet
$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
- No Phone Line Required for DSL
- FREE Activation  Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
- Locally Owned  Operated
- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
===



--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ 


--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Field Techs Non-Standard Installations

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Nash
We don't go into attics or crawl spaces.  We let the homeowner/business
owner do that (unless it's an account we REALLY want).  We DEFINITELY do not
trench, but we will run aerial cable if it's not over 50 feet.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Field Techs  Non-Standard Installations


 We bill for extra stuff like that.  OR, more likely around here, we just
 tell the home owner what's needed and he'll have to make it happen.

 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



 - Original Message - 
 From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:58 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Field Techs  Non-Standard Installations


  We are starting to see more and more subscribers need custom
  installations such as a vent pipe mount, aerial drop, trenching, etc.
  How is everyone paying their sub-contractors when it comes to
  non-standard installations? For instance, say you pay $75 to a
  sub-contractor for a standard installation but when they arrive
  at the job site, the subscriber needs a 10' ditch dug. If the
  sub-contractor says he will dig the ditch for $25 do you just
  tack this amount on to the subscriber's installation fee and then
  pass it along to the sub-contractor or do you add say $10 - $20
  to the amount the sub-contractor is going to charge you and then
  bill the subscriber the inflated amount which would then have a
  profit margin attached? Or, do you have the sub-contractor bill
  the subscriber separately for digging the ditch or whatever else
  they want/need done at their premises? In other words, do you
  try to make a profit on the additional work performed by the
  sub-contractor which falls outside a standard installation?
 
 
  Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
  KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
  Your Hometown Broadband Provider
  http://www.KyWiFi.com
  Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
  ===
  $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet
  $14.99 Home Phone Service
  $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
  - No Phone Line Required for DSL
  - FREE Activation  Equipment
  - Affordable Upfront Pricing
  - Locally Owned  Operated
  - We Also Service Most Rural Areas
  ===
  -- 
  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
 
  Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
  http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
 
  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
 

 -- 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Field Techs Non-Standard Installations

2006-07-24 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
We are at $50 for computer work for our customers.  Non customers are at 
$125.  One hour minimum.


There are plenty of $35 computer geeks around here though.  We send most of 
the computer work out to them.

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Field Techs  Non-Standard Installations



That seem like a low hourly rate Matt. What do local plumbers or
electricians charge per hour? You guys time is worth at least the 
prevailing

market rate for other trades.

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Matt Larsen - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Field Techs  Non-Standard Installations

Hi Shannon,

We charge $35 an hour to the customer for any extra work over the two
hour time frame that it generally takes to get the installation done.
My subcontractors are locked in at that rate for extra work, so it seems
to work pretty well.

Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


KyWiFi LLC wrote:

We are starting to see more and more subscribers need custom
installations such as a vent pipe mount, aerial drop, trenching, etc.
How is everyone paying their sub-contractors when it comes to
non-standard installations? For instance, say you pay $75 to a
sub-contractor for a standard installation but when they arrive
at the job site, the subscriber needs a 10' ditch dug. If the
sub-contractor says he will dig the ditch for $25 do you just
tack this amount on to the subscriber's installation fee and then
pass it along to the sub-contractor or do you add say $10 - $20
to the amount the sub-contractor is going to charge you and then
bill the subscriber the inflated amount which would then have a
profit margin attached? Or, do you have the sub-contractor bill
the subscriber separately for digging the ditch or whatever else
they want/need done at their premises? In other words, do you
try to make a profit on the additional work performed by the
sub-contractor which falls outside a standard installation?


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
===
$29.99 DSL High Speed Internet
$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
- No Phone Line Required for DSL
- FREE Activation  Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
- Locally Owned  Operated
- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
===



--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/







This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by
PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals  computer
viruses(191).












This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by
PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals  computer
viruses(42).













--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] VoIP. Looking for your input

2006-07-24 Thread Matt Liotta


On Jul 23, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Peter R. wrote:


Just to add to the XO and L3 VoIP conversation:
Broadwing has a smaller footprint, but a solid offering.

Must understanding is that Broadwing is reselling Level3.


VerizonBusiness has a solid offering (formerly MCI)

Who wants to buy from an RBOC?


PointOne has a decent footprint (80% or so).

Who are they reselling?

-Matt

--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


[WISPA] residential to commericial customer ratio? a quick survey

2006-07-24 Thread Patrick Leary
Hi folks,

Quick question. I believe most scaled WISPs (+1,000 CPE) have a high
residential mix, mostly no lower than 70% residential. At least that tends
to be the case with large Alvarion-based operators. I am curious about ratio
in the 200-1,000 CPE WISPs category (which I tend to think is a broad
category that can run the ganut of rural to urban and cross all types of
WISP definitions). As well, how about those of you that are sub-200 CPE,
what is your rough mix?


Patrick
-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] VoIP. Looking for your input

2006-07-24 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181


- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:06 PM
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP. Looking for your input


So VoIP over wireless is a very important topic to us at Alvarion right 
now.

Increasing we are being told by new customers that much of their equipment
choice is or will be based on the ability to offer true double play in
scale. Essentially, they say the need to offer bundled services is a must,
not an option, in order to remain competitive going forward. I am 
interested

to hear listers inputs on the subject. Some questions I have:

1. Is VoIP part of your plans?
Maybe.  So far no one has been able to show me how I can compete with Vonage 
etc.  VoIP can be purchased from anywhere so we'll have to compete against 
all of the well funded players eventually.  I'm also guessing that it will 
be almost free sooner than later, much like hotel access or hotspots.


I'm looking at the new VoIP company that's a WISPA vendor member.  We'll see 
what kind of program they have to offer  The biggest problem here is 
that a pots line is under $20 per month.  Maybe $25 but no more than that. 
Business lines are $37 or so.  And with long distance built into cell phone 
plans at no charge, what's the benefit?



2. Do you believe VoIP is a viable offering for a WISP?


Out here the trend is already to drop the pots line for cell phone.

I think SOME WISPs will make money on VoIP.  It'll be VERY market specific 
though.



3. What type revenue contribution in terms of additional ARPU do you think
VoIP can add?


I think that once prices do down far enough and hardware becomes available 
it'll be a bundled element.  Like email and web space is today  No 
benefit but little or no cost either.


4. If you will or are doing VoIP as a service, will/are you leveraging 
third

parties? If so, who do like?


I really like the guys at PacWEST 
(http://www.pacwest.com/pacwest/index.shtml).  Hutch is a great guy.  They 
just don't have a small enough option for us.  I need to start a VoIP 
project with 4 or 5 lines not 400 or 500.  I also don't want to buy my own 
switch etc.


5. Would VoIP be offered to your commercial customers, residential or 
both?


Everything we do is available to both.  In our market, serving one or the 
other isn't an option.



6. If you are obtaining your own switch, what brands are in your top 3?
7. Does VoIP capability drive any of your wireless equipment decision
making?


Not at this time.  I DO see the ability to prioritize VoIP traffic that 
others provide as a possible revenue source.  But so far, even on my wifi 
system, VoIP works just fine.


Heck, I took my mobile cop care setup out in the ski boat the other day.  On 
land I can get 1300/450 KBps out to www.speakeasy.net.  In the boat I got 
700/300.  If only I could type and ski at the same time!  hehehehehe  Oh 
yeah, that tower is fed by a DSL line.



8. If you are doing now, could you architect out how you do it and what
adjustment it forced in terms of capacity planning on your wireless 
network?


The only thing we do at this time is prioritize the ip addy of the VoIP 
devices for that that want to pay an extra $5 per month.  So far I'm my only 
taker.




Any other comments or issues on the subject would be welcome.


We're trying to teach our business customers to use IM instead of phones for 
quick conversations to people in remote offices.


When the cell phone companies figure out how to make a group of cell phones 
tie into a phone system like normal phone lines I think you'll see phone 
lines drop a lot.  Most of the business people, especially managers and 
sales types, have cell phones already.  The ONLY thing not easy to do is 
transfer a call to them via the front desk.


For those sitting at desks, it seems to me that a system that ties into the 
PC and uses that for the phone set is the way to go.


In our office we have a Panasonic 4 line portable phone system.  We tried to 
do something similar with an * box but just couldn't get our arms around it. 
Instead we just plug our Vonage line into the phone system and NOTHING 
changes for us.  We just have to remember to use line 2 for long distance.


Hope that all helps,
marlon



Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ 


--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] residential to commericial customer ratio? a quick survey

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Nash
Rural, 90% residential.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:22 AM
Subject: [WISPA] residential to commericial customer ratio? a quick survey


 Hi folks,

 Quick question. I believe most scaled WISPs (+1,000 CPE) have a high
 residential mix, mostly no lower than 70% residential. At least that tends
 to be the case with large Alvarion-based operators. I am curious about
ratio
 in the 200-1,000 CPE WISPs category (which I tend to think is a broad
 category that can run the ganut of rural to urban and cross all types of
 WISP definitions). As well, how about those of you that are sub-200 CPE,
 what is your rough mix?


 Patrick
 -- 
 WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

 Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
 http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

 Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/



-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


[WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups

2006-07-24 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Does Mikrotik have a method of backing up its settings
like is done with the StarOS StarUtil commands? If so,
what are the commands? I'm wanting to make sure we
automate this much needed task with http://www.ISPBuddy.com
which will allow automated nightly backups to our remote
storage facility.


Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
Your Hometown Broadband Provider
http://www.KyWiFi.com
Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
===
$29.99 DSL High Speed Internet
$14.99 Home Phone Service
$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
- No Phone Line Required for DSL
- FREE Activation  Equipment
- Affordable Upfront Pricing
- Locally Owned  Operated
- We Also Service Most Rural Areas
===
-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] VoIP. Looking for your input

2006-07-24 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists

To answer your questions



(inline)

1. Is VoIP part of your plans?



Yes



2. Do you believe VoIP is a viable offering for a WISP?



Depends on the revenue stream possibilities.  One good quote from this 
year's WCA Show VOIP session:  VOIP is a pain in the ass and doesn't 
make much money, but you better be offering it or someone else will take 
your customer




3. What type revenue contribution in terms of additional ARPU do you think

VoIP can add?



Residential:  Increase from $25-$30/month to $60-$70/month, ($25 for the 
service, extra $10 for VOIP prioritization or move to PRO level of service)


Business:  Same, plus a variable amount according to how many lines they 
have.






4. If you will or are doing VoIP as a service, will/are you leveraging 
third parties? If so, who do like?




At this time, just using ITSP services to terminate calls.  I have not 
come across a third party that had a decent profit sharing program or 
the ability to put a server in my NOC for local termination.




5. Would VoIP be offered to your commercial customers, residential or 
both?




Both



6. If you are obtaining your own switch, what brands are in your top 3?



Only considering Asterisk.  I have three years experience with it, and 
it will supposedly scale up a long way. 




7. Does VoIP capability drive any of your wireless equipment decision

making?



Yes.  Almost all new deployments of equipment that I put in service are 
higher bandwidth systems or upgradable to higher bandwidth.  




8. If you are doing now, could you architect out how you do it and what

adjustment it forced in terms of capacity planning on your wireless 
network?




I currently have an Asterisk server that is terminating about ten beta 
customers.  The crucial thing is to have the VOIP server sitting at the 
NOC, where you can control the data flow to/from it.  That is the only 
way to guarantee an acceptable level of call quality.  Customers on 5ghz 
(802.11a) connections have no problems at all.  Customers on 2.4ghz 
(802.11b) are okay as long as they are on light or moderately loaded 
access points (under 40).  My furthest customer is on the far end of 125 
miles of wireless backbone, and has had few problems with it, but I also 
haven't tuned our network for VOIP yet.  That is one of my projects 
for the fall.




Matt Larsen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]









Any other comments or issues on the subject would be welcome.



Patrick Leary

AVP Marketing

Alvarion, Inc.

o: 650.314.2628

c: 760.580.0080

Vonage: 650.641.1243



  


--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


RE: [WISPA] residential to commericial customer ratio? a quick survey

2006-07-24 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Urban, 70% biz

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 1:23 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] residential to commericial customer ratio? a quick survey

Hi folks,

Quick question. I believe most scaled WISPs (+1,000 CPE) have a high
residential mix, mostly no lower than 70% residential. At least that tends
to be the case with large Alvarion-based operators. I am curious about ratio
in the 200-1,000 CPE WISPs category (which I tend to think is a broad
category that can run the ganut of rural to urban and cross all types of
WISP definitions). As well, how about those of you that are sub-200 CPE,
what is your rough mix?


Patrick
-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] OT, online contact groups

2006-07-24 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
I use both. I find them pretty useful, actually.




On 7/24/06 5:14 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I keep getting offers to sign up for plaxo, linked in etc.
 
 I've NEVER signed up for any.  They seem too much like email harvesting or
 porn jerks to me.
 
 Am I off base here?  Some people that I highly respect have come across my
 desk with these types of systems.  I just don't particularly care to put my
 email and personal contact info in the hands of any more people that I don't
 know if I can trust with it.
 
 Are these companies legit?  Do they promise that they will NEVER give or
 sell your data to anyone else?  How do they make their money?
 
 I'm having trouble trusting anyone over the internet these days
 
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
 
 


-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


RE: [WISPA] residential to commericial customer ratio? a quick survey

2006-07-24 Thread Chad Halsted
90% residential

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:23 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] residential to commericial customer ratio? a quick
survey

Hi folks,

Quick question. I believe most scaled WISPs (+1,000 CPE) have a high
residential mix, mostly no lower than 70% residential. At least that
tends
to be the case with large Alvarion-based operators. I am curious about
ratio
in the 200-1,000 CPE WISPs category (which I tend to think is a broad
category that can run the ganut of rural to urban and cross all types of
WISP definitions). As well, how about those of you that are sub-200 CPE,
what is your rough mix?


Patrick
-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups

2006-07-24 Thread Scott Reed




/system backup save name=MS1;
/tool e-mail send to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=([/system identity get name] . Backup) server=10.10.10.10 file=MS1.backup

Put these in a script and schedule the script as often as you want.  I have all my routers email me on Thursday night.  10.10.10.10 needs to be your mail server address.

Scott Reed 


Owner 


NewWays 


Wireless Networking 


Network Design, Installation and Administration 


www.nwwnet.net 




-- Original Message 
---

From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


To: wireless@wispa.org 


Sent: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:28:52 -0400 


Subject: [WISPA] Automating Mikrotik Backups 



 Does Mikrotik have a method of backing up its settings 
 

like is done with the StarOS StarUtil commands? If so, 
 

what are the commands? I'm wanting to make sure we 
 

automate this much needed task with http://www.ISPBuddy.com 
 

which will allow automated nightly backups to our remote 
 

storage facility. 
 
 

Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder 
 

KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky 
 

Your Hometown Broadband Provider 
 

http://www.KyWiFi.com 

 

Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 
 

=== 
 

$29.99 DSL High Speed Internet 
 

$14.99 Home Phone Service 
 

$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV 
 

- No Phone Line Required for DSL 
 

- FREE Activation  Equipment 
 

- Affordable Upfront Pricing 
 

- Locally Owned  Operated 
 

- We Also Service Most Rural Areas 
 

=== 
 

--  
 

WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org 
 
 

Subscribe/Unsubscribe: 
 

http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless 
 

 

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ 
--- 
End of Original Message 
---






-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


RE: [WISPA] VoIP. Looking for your input

2006-07-24 Thread Chad Halsted
Comments inline...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:06 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP. Looking for your input

So VoIP over wireless is a very important topic to us at Alvarion right
now.
Increasing we are being told by new customers that much of their
equipment
choice is or will be based on the ability to offer true double play in
scale. Essentially, they say the need to offer bundled services is a
must,
not an option, in order to remain competitive going forward. I am
interested
to hear listers inputs on the subject. Some questions I have:

1. Is VoIP part of your plans?

Yes, to some degree.  All new equipment going into production in our
infrastructure has to be able to prioritize traffic.  This is simply a
network design decision to ensure we are able to offer those types of
products when/if we decide to do it.  I definitely believe we will see
more and more VoIP traffic on our network so it is a good idea no matter
what.

2. Do you believe VoIP is a viable offering for a WISP?

Yes

3. What type revenue contribution in terms of additional ARPU do you
think
VoIP can add?

I'm not sure, in our market VoIP has not become that Hot of an item.
Sure, some folks are getting Vonage and I actually had my fist phone
call the other day inquiring if we offered phone service!!  The most
common action here is that folks are ditching the phone company all
together and using their mobile phones as their primary voice service.

4. If you will or are doing VoIP as a service, will/are you leveraging
third
parties? If so, who do like?
 
I have to admit, it is appealing to take the 3rd party route.  Not sure
who we would be looking to for that service.

5. Would VoIP be offered to your commercial customers, residential or
both?
 
For sure resi, possibly commercial later on.

6. If you are obtaining your own switch, what brands are in your top 3?

I'm not sure, we are fairly new to the WISP world and have focused on
the access side of things.

7. Does VoIP capability drive any of your wireless equipment decision
making?
 
Absolutely, I like being prepared.

8. If you are doing now, could you architect out how you do it and what
adjustment it forced in terms of capacity planning on your wireless
network?

Not there yet.

Any other comments or issues on the subject would be welcome.
 
For now, I see VoIP more as a customer retention plan than anything
else.  Additional revenue is nice, and getting the most out of our links
is even better, but I'm not sure that we are prepared to take on the
added headache technically, legally, and/or financially.


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


RE: [WISPA] Sparkplug scales with broadband wireless buzz

2006-07-24 Thread Charles Wu
I personally know them, and FWIW there's a lot of bark there...

-Charles

---
WiNOG Wireless Roadshows
Coming to a City Near You
http://www.winog.com 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Sparkplug scales with broadband wireless buzz


http://telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_sparkplug_scales_broadband/

Sparkplug scales with broadband wireless buzz
By Dan O'Shea

Jul 17, 2006 12:00 AM


If it's any indication of what may come for the broadband wireless 
market, several of the
companies making news in the sector recently are guided by veterans of 
McCaw Cellular, the
company that turned the mobile industry into a fiercely competitive 
national market. These
include service providers Clearwire and Nextlink, but don't forget about 
Sparkplug, a
small broadband wireless service provider based in Chicago that is 
beginning to make more
noise on the broadband wireless scene.

The company, which is headed by McCaw vets Bill Malloy, Sparkplug's CEO, 
and Steve Hooper,
the company's chairman, last week announced that it has merged with two 
other regional
service providers - Prairie iNet in Des Moines, Iowa, and Telespectra in 
Scottsdale, Ariz.

Under Sparkplug's post-merger structure, Malloy will lead the 
organization as CEO, along
with senior executives Jeff Hardesty, currently CEO of Telespectra; and 
Neil Mulholland,
CEO and founder of Prairie iNet. Malloy said he's known both Mulholland 
and Hardesty for
several years. The resulting company will operate under the Sparkplug 
name and combine
Sparkplug's markets of Chicago and Nashville; several Midwest markets 
served by Prairie
iNet; and Telespectra's networks in the Southwest covering Arizona, 
Colorado, Nevada, New
Mexico and Southern California.

We're all wireless guys from way back, and if you look at what's been 
happening the last
few years with broadband wireless, we're finally at the point where the 
technology is
meeting up with customer needs, Malloy said. The merger of the three 
companies was led by
venture capital firm Ignition Partners, in which Malloy is a venture 
partner and Hooper is
a founding partner.

Malloy said the companies merged to chase a common market of business 
customers with
specific needs, including the potential of growing businesses to 
increasingly use
broadband wireless to communicate among multiple branches and offices in 
different markets.

As businesses deploy more IP-based services that are mission-critical, 
scaleable
high-quality committed bandwidth is a key enabler, said Hardesty in a 
statement. This
merger lets us extend our operational expertise in meeting these needs 
to more business
customers across the combined company.

However, Malloy said that the beefed-up Sparkplug also will watch for 
other merger and
acquisition opportunities. There's no secret that there's a lot of 
consolidation in this
market, and is this deal being put together to go and do more merging 
and partnering?
That's certainly something we'll look at, he said.

Broadband wireless market consolidation has been top of mind for the 
last few years, as
the technology has gained credibility, and investors and potential 
investors have looked
at how to encourage scalability and consistency in a market 
characterized by hundreds of
Mom-and-Pop wireless ISPs. Companies like California-based NextWeb and 
Texas-based AirBand
Communications have driven much of the consolidation early on, and 
NextWeb itself was
acquired by Covad Communications last year.

Sparkplug is operating in both licensed and license-exempt frequencies. 
Its licenses are
in the ranges of 6 GHz, 11 GHz and 18 GHz, license-exempt operations 
include 5.2 GHz and
5.7 GHz. These frequencies, with the exception of 5.7 GHz, aren't 
currently being
considered for WiMAX certification, but Malloy isn't feeling left out.

Five or six years ago, we began to study WiMAX very deeply because we 
were the guys who
genuflected at the altar of licensed technology, he said. But we have 
been impressed by
what we have been able to do in the unlicensed frequencies to make this 
work and meet
customer needs. We are going to see WiMAX in our future at some point, 
but for now, it's
not something that we're worrying about.


-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

-- 
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] OT, online contact groups

2006-07-24 Thread Peter R.
Plaxo is an online contact management system. They have not been known 
to spam thus far. It is a paid service.


LinkedIn.com and openBC and a few others are networking sites. It works 
great if you are looking for contacts. Because it is a small world and 6 
degrees of Kevin Bacon works with lots of people - like Jon Price :)


Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc.


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


I keep getting offers to sign up for plaxo, linked in etc.

I've NEVER signed up for any.  They seem too much like email 
harvesting or porn jerks to me.


Am I off base here?  Some people that I highly respect have come 
across my desk with these types of systems.  I just don't particularly 
care to put my email and personal contact info in the hands of any 
more people that I don't know if I can trust with it.


Are these companies legit?  Do they promise that they will NEVER give 
or sell your data to anyone else?  How do they make their money?


I'm having trouble trusting anyone over the internet these days

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam


--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/


Re: [WISPA] VoIP, Asterisk Scale

2006-07-24 Thread Peter R.

Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

Only considering Asterisk.  I have three years experience with it, and 
it will supposedly scale up a long way.


With all of the upgrades to Asterisk, it is a solid alternative. 
Switchvox is making it easier and easier to install PBXs.
But as for scale: honestly, are you going to be connecting over 1000 
calls simultaneously?

Doubtful, since even the larger CLECs only have 25,000 customers.
So Asterisk will work long time for you for low dollars - just spend the 
money for a really beefy server with dual or quad Xeon and lots of RAM.


- Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc.
--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/