RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - Mikrotik large packets
Back atcha Tom: > The only comment I disagree with is > > > > The proper VLAN aware drivers show 1500 MTU for both the underlying interface and the VLAN interface but it treats VLAN packets with caution, so as not to truncate or drop them because of their longer size. > >If that's true, then it isn't a "proper VLAN aware driver." The MTU should be set correctly and not just show 1500 and use something else. > My statement was just bringing up that the MTU is for the size of the packet before VLAN tags were added, and VLAN header bits are added on top of the existing full size packets. The reason for this is that we guarantee to deliver 1500 MTU to the consumer, and we want the setting to show what the customer expects to get. If we tag it with VLAN for our own use, we must be able to pass the higher size packet, and strip the VLAN off before delivering down to the client on the other end. The consumer's local Ethernet interface has an MTU of 1500. Nothing you do on the WAN side with VLANs, VPNs, etc. will affect that. They should see 1500 even if you use a StarOS box that clamps the WAN MTU down. I don't think that it is a good thing for interfaces to show an MTU of 1500 on both the primary Ethernet and VLAN devices. I know that, under Linux, they do that, but it doesn't make it correct. :-) It just makes it confusing. It's one of the reasons that I think so many people confuse MTU and MSS. > Opinions on this depend on what the provider is trying to do with the router. The needs as a customer premise router is different than the needs of a ISP transport provider router. The way StarOS does it, to shring the MTU, is appropriate for Customer premise routers, and it would make sense under that circumstance for the MTU setting to reflect the new MTU size that the customer would see. I guess that would depend on your customer. :-) I can't imagine creating that problem for customers. > receive 1500 MTU capability. The problem is not all ethernet devices pass IPSEC higher MTU. Its why it ended up not being a preferred method for tunneling across our network or other's network, without compromising delivery of 1500 MTU to subscribers. Thus the reason we switched to CIPE tunneling as our standard tunneling method. And major reason for selecting Linux based routers. > I'd like to add, that I believe ImageStream supports CIPE tunneling. One of the disadvantages of Mikrotik and StarOS, is that they do NOT support CIPE tunneling. It was one of the reasons we built our own routers 5 years ago. (Before MPLS switches allowing larger packets were mainstream and affordable). Just for the record, ImageStream supports but does not recommend using CIPE as our first choice. We highly encourage customers to use OpenVPN. It is more secure, far more extensible and feature-rich and has considerable market force behind it (unlike CIPE). Regards, Jeff Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cat5 cable
Im installing some 120’ runs of cat 5 in building shafts. I also need to take this through a roof penetration and 20’ across the roof to hook up to my radios. I can find exterior cable and riser rated cable, but not one that will serve both needs. Anybody have any idea where I can find such a beast? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5 cable
chris cooper wrote: Im installing some 120’ runs of cat 5 in building shafts. I also need to take this through a roof penetration and 20’ across the roof to hook up to my radios. I can find exterior cable and riser rated cable, but not one that will serve both needs. Anybody have any idea where I can find such a beast? Thanks Chris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: 7/31/2006 Chris, In most areas it must be plenum if it is in a common shaftway between floors without firestops. What you will probably need to do is transition from plenum to outdoor where it leaves the building. I'm sure that's not what you had in mind but if you are under code it may be your cheapest way. Just transition at a 66 block that is CAT5 rated. Otherwise, the plenum cable directly to the equipment outside will last you several years without issue. You could also install it inside pvc conduit on sleepers off the roof surface to extend life. Good Luck, -B- -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5 cable
No but you could put the 20' in conduit. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: chris cooper To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Cat5 cable Im installing some 120 runs of cat 5 in building shafts. I also need to take this through a roof penetration and 20 across the roof to hook up to my radios. I can find exterior cable and riser rated cable, but not one that will serve both needs. Anybody have any idea where I can find such a beast? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5 cable
You will probably want to use plenum for the entire run. see http://www.phonicear.com/learnplenum.asp regards, Paul www.opnehsmm.org On 8/2/06, chris cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Im installing some 120' runs of cat 5 in building shafts. I also need to take this through a roof penetration and 20' across the roof to hook up to my radios. I can find exterior cable and riser rated cable, but not one that will serve both needs. Anybody have any idea where I can find such a beast? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] SpanAssassin
I am looking for a easy, step-by-step guide to setup SpamAssassin on my Linux sendmail server. Google has not provided anything that gets me there. Anyone have a link to a good setup guide? Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] frame size and fps - Mikrotik large packets
I'm not sure what you are asking about, MPLS, or Before MPLS. "(Before MPLS switches allowing larger packets were mainstream and affordable)" Many current Layer 2 Switches support MPLS. Example is newer CISCO switches, since Cisico developed MPLS. Any MPLS enabled switch supports the larger packets because MPLS uses larger packets. I do not know exact model numbers off top of head of all manufacturers that use MPLS but there are a lot, that jumped on the MPLS bandwagon, as we don't use third party routers yet, we use our own based on Linux. Some of the Cisco routers that were cost prohibited 5 years ago, are now much lower in cost. This is not jsut with a specific line, but pretty much all across the board with all products in the networking industry where price drops every year as new faster products come out. 6 years ago we decided to use our own Linux Routers, and today many people ask us why we chose that option. The reason is that todays technology did not exist 6 years ago at the price it can be had for today. For example Mikrotik today is a super feature rich unique product that has evolved to do ALMOST anything someone would want to do. (can't do cipe). But 6 years ago it was not so special, and our product out featured it in many areas, justifying the code writing. Our product did not evolve to that level, because we decided to stay in the WISP business not router manufacturer business. But to date, I can partner/peer with any ISP in the country, over any type of Layer3 connection in a secure manner, and deliver full 1500 MTU between us, because we use Linux routers that support CIPE. Thats one of the reasons that if I chose a third party Linux Router other than ours, it would be IMageStream, that allows CIPE tunnelling, apposed to StarOS or Mikrotik. In case you are not familiar with CIPE... Cipe basically splits packets that exceed 1500 byte, and then reassembles them at the end of the tunnel, so they are not fragmented. There is a slight penalty to this in through put, but not significant, no more than 5%. The degregation is of course by adding an additional header for the second have of a split packet. But that only happens when the packet exceeds 1500 bytes. Most Internet packets are not full 1500 bytes in size. The bottom line is todays clearly lack in their ability to handle QOS and Bandwidth in a way that is optimal and accurate for many Wireless network designs (nested PtMP links, Mesh, Star within star, redundant path, etc). Technically todays available routers are once again outdated and incapable for today's need because of it. As a result, we are back in the programming room. Not because we want to be, but because there is not a product out there to do what needs to be done. For example, I'd like to see one of the major software vendors like ImageStream, Mikrotik, or STAR OS, take over maintenance of the OPEN source MPLS and include it on their routers. One of the things we are investigating today is, can off the shelf CISCO type routers (any manufacturer) now do what we want, at an affordable cost? We are getting close, but so far that has not been proven possible. We have a situation today, that as a service provider we MUST face the reality of finding a better method of managing QOS and bandwdith management. The reason is one reason only, "VOIP". In tier 1 markets if you can't deliver QOS adequate for VOIP end to end acorss your network, you lose the large multi-site deals. We don't have an issue today because we are undersubscribed. We also have temporary methods that could buy us a year or two, such as filling in with more dedicated PTP links to increase capacities, where possible. Or we can start adding more Fiber links at more cell sites to throw capacity at it. But the problem area is in nested PtMP links in common aggregation points. Smarter allocation of bandwidth is required. There becomes a real cost justification to make smarter software to prevent the pre-mature expendatures of a LOT of hardware network wide. To solve QOS, either there must be a way to provision every customer at every hop of every possible path they may take, or label the packet so a router knows how to handle it, and routers need to be aware of every available amount of bandwidth on each of its connected paths, or for that matter which complete path has the average most available bandwidth, so that it can stay delivering the client across that path instead of prematurely swapping paths that could cause out of order packets. And what happens if the link speeds decrease, due to modulation change or packet loss and UDP traffic is being sent? Things like HTB or equivellent have you hard set the backbone speed for its bandwdith management decission making. Many of the MTU problems can be solved with Layer2. But can an ISP always get a Layer2 connection from its two points? For example from DC to California? My predicti
RE: [WISPA] SpanAssassin
http://www.peregrinehw.com/downloads/ Eric From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:29 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] SpanAssassin I am looking for a easy, step-by-step guide to setup SpamAssassin on my Linux sendmail server. Google has not provided anything that gets me there. Anyone have a link to a good setup guide? Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SpanAssassin
Scott Reed wrote: I am looking for a easy, step-by-step guide to setup SpamAssassin on my Linux sendmail server. Google has not provided anything that gets me there. Anyone have a link to a good setup guide? I've always prefered to use amavisd to integrate spamassassin. http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/ is the website. There are a lot of howtos in the docs that come with the software. Also consider upgrading to postfix. If you cant/dont want to, you can integrate spamassassin with sendmail via a sendmail milter or amavisd. Jeremy -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] SpanAssassin
http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/ Add Clam-AV if you do not already have AV on the mail Server. Grant From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:29 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] SpanAssassin I am looking for a easy, step-by-step guide to setup SpamAssassin on my Linux sendmail server. Google has not provided anything that gets me there. Anyone have a link to a good setup guide? Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] frame size and fps - Mikrotik large packets
Jeff, know that, under Linux, they do that, but it doesn't make it correct. :-) It just makes it confusing. It's one of the reasons that I think so many people confuse MTU and MSS. I agree. Just for the record, ImageStream supports but does not recommend using CIPE as our first choice. We highly encourage customers to use OpenVPN. It is more secure, far more extensible and feature-rich and has considerable market force behind it (unlike CIPE). That statement definately needs further clarification, as we need to define which applications you are referring to in that comment. We use and support OPEN VPN on our routers as well. We use it frequently from customer's central office to customer's remote offices. We also were considering on using it as the VPN method between our Central Management / Monitoring PCs and our remote distributed Routers in our network redesign. For any of those Purposes, specific to a customer or our own use, CIPE would not have been our choice. I look at CIPE as a good alternative to IPSEC. I do not see how Open VPN could be a replacement for CIPE in the applications where we feel CIPE is required. We use CIPE in one broad application. We need to make a connection between Cell Site A and Cell Site B. And between those two cell sites, the interconnecting backhaul (usually third party ethernet fiber provider ) does not support passing packets with an MTU higher than 1500 bytes. In most cases, the Fiber provider uses layer3 private IP addresses to route our data across their network. To maintain and property distribute our IP space, we need to cross these connections in some method of tunneling. We can NOT chose a method of tunneling that increases the MTU or the Fiber carrier will not pass our data across the circuit without forcing packets to be permanently fragmented. (some ISPs will drop fragmented packets as well as not Customer VPN friendly). We can not chose a tunneling method that shrinks the MTU, as then customer's data would not pass our network. The reason for us to tunnel is to maintain IP, not to provide optimal security. We need to select a VPN method that will work with any other VPN that the customer might use for their own need for their corporate network. We need to support "Any/All VPN within our VPN" compatibility. To the best of my knowledge, the only tunneling protocol to be able to handle this in an amicable way is CIPE. Because CIPE takes care of spliting the packet to fit into 1500 MTU, and reassemble packet on other end, only when needed for optimal performance. To the best of my knowledge, OPEN VPN does not support this application as listed above. If you feel Open VPN can accomplish this, please clarify how. (On a side note, OPEN VPN is also a technology that supports unique reasons to choose Linux routers over name brand applications like Cisco.) Actually I'm interested in learning/comparing ANY tunneling protocol that can accomplsih the above requirements. But performance and compatibilty is a key factor. When we selected CIPE, we did it because it was able to solve the problem in the most efficient manner with the least amount of overhead to maintain performance. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WISPA] Chicago tower
Cool. I thought that might have been your tennis shoe in the pic! hehehehe Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:28 AM Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WISPA] Chicago tower Jay Panozzo is selling this one. He has tower throughout the Chicago Land area. One of his towers is the Monopole at the back side of the Nascar Track in Joliet, used by several Wisps for backhaul feeds. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WISPA] Chicago tower OY I pulled a Roger! g http://cgi.ebay.com/180-radio-antenna-communication-tower-and-1-8-acres_W0QQ itemZ270012114121QQihZ017QQcategoryZ15825QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem That help? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:46 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Chicago tower Marlon, I think we need a leeettle bit more information. There are a lot of people and a lot of towers in Chicago. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Chicago tower Anyone know who's this is? marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] SR9's
Has anyone heard if they started shipping again? I'm in the market. Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9's
So am I DIBS! George Rogato wrote: Has anyone heard if they started shipping again? I'm in the market. Thanks George -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] SpanAssassin
I hate to toot anyone’s horn, but I do happen to know if you need any help getting all this set up and functioning like it needs to - - Jeremy can handle it if he has time. Mac Dearman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant Stufft Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:43 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] SpanAssassin http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/ Add Clam-AV if you do not already have AV on the mail Server. Grant From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:29 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] SpanAssassin I am looking for a easy, step-by-step guide to setup SpamAssassin on my Linux sendmail server. Google has not provided anything that gets me there. Anyone have a link to a good setup guide? Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9's
Just got my 3 radios, but I ordered and payed for them the last week of June. (can't wait to test 'em out later this week :) On 8/2/06, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone heard if they started shipping again? I'm in the market. Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wrap 2 power
We are rolling out some wrap 2 based nodes. The node, including power will be mounted externally. Has anyone devised a way to weather harden the AC plug/POE block combo? Ive got an idea for a 2nd , small enclosure that piggy backs on the radio enclosure, but Im wondering if someone has come up with a slick way to do this. Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9's
I ordered mine june 16th or so. still not here This is getting annoying. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: Just got my 3 radios, but I ordered and payed for them the last week of June. (can't wait to test 'em out later this week :) On 8/2/06, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone heard if they started shipping again? I'm in the market. Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RouterBoard 532A
Hi all, Just got my RouterBoard 532A units. Thought they had built-in flash memory pre-loaded with MikroTik 2.9.+ software. But when I got them, I noticed a CF card socket.. Anyone know if I orderd the wrong thing by mistake? I wanted the RouterBoard with pre-loaded software. The RouterBoard 112' s look fine. -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wrap 2 power
WRAP 2? what specs? will it take 48V POE? chris cooper wrote: We are rolling out some wrap 2 based nodes. The node, including power will be mounted externally. Has anyone devised a way to weather harden the AC plug/POE block combo? Ive got an idea for a 2nd , small enclosure that piggy backs on the radio enclosure, but Im wondering if someone has come up with a slick way to do this. Thanks Chris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 8/1/2006 -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A Division of : Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532A
Mikrotik is builtin. CF is for optional stuff like web caching. Boot it up and plug a console cable in to access. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: 02 August 2006 23:31 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532A Hi all, Just got my RouterBoard 532A units. Thought they had built-in flash memory pre-loaded with MikroTik 2.9.+ software. But when I got them, I noticed a CF card socket.. Anyone know if I orderd the wrong thing by mistake? I wanted the RouterBoard with pre-loaded software. The RouterBoard 112' s look fine. -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 01/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 01/08/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wrap 2 power
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If I'm not mistaken, WRAPs are only rated to 18VDC. Bob Blair Davis wrote: > WRAP 2? what specs? will it take 48V POE? > > chris cooper wrote: >> >> We are rolling out some wrap 2 based nodes. The node, including power >> will be mounted externally. Has anyone devised a way to weather >> harden the AC plug/POE block combo? Ive got an idea for a 2^nd , >> small enclosure that piggy backs on the radio enclosure, but Im >> wondering if someone has come up with a slick way to do this. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 8/1/2006 >> > -- > > Blair Davis > West Michigan Wireless ISP > > 269-686-8648 > > A Division of : > Camp Communication Services, INC > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0TeS09OzCOxY0TcRAjTXAJ98Fiuu54Fkm03Zao6p9UGlooBYqgCfeKu/ +o4jG2EUPOh5g0mL7zSQrIE= =93be -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Bob Knight n:Knight;Bob email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:505.667.4300 tel;home:505.466.4548 tel;cell:505.310.8409 note:GUIs are a passing fad. version:2.1 end:vcard -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wrap 2 power
I know the old WRAP were 18VDC. And I heard that they stopped making them. But, I had never heard of a new WRAP 2 I've moved on to Soekris. And, except for our Tranzeo units, all our POE is now 48VDC If the new WRAP is 48VDC, I'd be real interested in it. -- Blair Davis West MIchigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC Bob Knight wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If I'm not mistaken, WRAPs are only rated to 18VDC. Bob Blair Davis wrote: WRAP 2? what specs? will it take 48V POE? chris cooper wrote: We are rolling out some wrap 2 based nodes. The node, including power will be mounted externally. Has anyone devised a way to weather harden the AC plug/POE block combo? Ive got an idea for a 2^nd , small enclosure that piggy backs on the radio enclosure, but Im wondering if someone has come up with a slick way to do this. Thanks Chris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 8/1/2006 -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A Division of : Camp Communication Services, INC -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0TeS09OzCOxY0TcRAjTXAJ98Fiuu54Fkm03Zao6p9UGlooBYqgCfeKu/ +o4jG2EUPOh5g0mL7zSQrIE= =93be -END PGP SIGNATURE- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 8/1/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532A
Be sure to check your jumpers for the POE and voltage. Depending on where you bought them as to their settings. If you don't check the POE/voltage settings and you fry one then you are on your own. If you bought them from Eje it is probably already set up with POE and 48VDC as well as they will have a 192.168.10.1 IP on ether 1. If you bought them from anywhere else then the jumpers are probably set for the on board barrel jack P/S and unknown/any (11 to 48vdc) voltage as well as no IP set on ether1, but you can fire up Winbox and log in with 0.0.0.0 IP on the MT box. CHECK YOUR JUMPERS! Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532A Mikrotik is builtin. CF is for optional stuff like web caching. Boot it up and plug a console cable in to access. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: 02 August 2006 23:31 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532A Hi all, Just got my RouterBoard 532A units. Thought they had built-in flash memory pre-loaded with MikroTik 2.9.+ software. But when I got them, I noticed a CF card socket.. Anyone know if I orderd the wrong thing by mistake? I wanted the RouterBoard with pre-loaded software. The RouterBoard 112' s look fine. -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 01/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 01/08/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: SPAM-LOW: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532A
Blair, Fire it up, It has internal memory with the MT OS on it. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: SPAM-LOW: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532A Hi all, Just got my RouterBoard 532A units. Thought they had built-in flash memory pre-loaded with MikroTik 2.9.+ software. But when I got them, I noticed a CF card socket.. Anyone know if I orderd the wrong thing by mistake? I wanted the RouterBoard with pre-loaded software. The RouterBoard 112' s look fine. -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
