[WISPA] FCC Public Notice

[michael mulcay]

For those interested in WSI's request to the FCC for a declaratory
ruling, there is additional information on the web site
(www.wirelessstrategies.net  ) under
FCC Public Notice.
 
Mike   
 

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Reply: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless business

[Felix A. Lopez]

Tom: Good question. The short answer is yes, the GSA
provides opportunities for "small businesses" to
subcontract or bid on projects. Please see here:

http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/ep/contentView.do?contentId=16100&contentType=GSA_OVERVIEW

I recall working with GSA Small Business Program while
working in analog/digital signal conditioning at
www.mstarlabs.com and later on power development on
Native American lands with GE Power.  Each time the US
federal government indeed promoted opportunities for
qualified small business companies. 

I took a company through the process and it is not as 
hard as people think. Each state in the United States
has an Economic Development/Economic Vitality program
which teams with the Federal Government.  There you
can find certain program.  

Felix
 
--- Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Felix,
> 
> Thanks for the follow up post. It sheds some
> additional light on what its 
> all about.
> 
> I wonder if that GSA contract (Networx Universal)
> has a small business set 
> aside portion included. Required of the winners to
> subcontract to?
> 
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Felix A. Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon in the Fixed Wireless
> business
> 
> 
> > Tom: I'm glad you posted the weblink.   The
> > Verizon/FibreTower announcment is part of the
> large
> > GSA RFP Networx Universal and Networx Enterprise
> RFP,
> > whereby "AT&T, Qwest Communications and Verizon
> won
> > spots on Universal. The same three companies also
> got
> > places on Enterprise, along with Sprint and Level
> 3
> > Communications. Sprint bid unsuccessfully for a
> place
> > on Universal. Bechtel, is an AT&T partner for
> AT&T¡¦s
> > Networx offerings.
> > http://www.gcn.com/print/26_15/44523-1.html
> > The only thing I did not see here is the
> convergence
> > of wireless witih mission critical radio (two way
> > radio) that emerged on the scene with Katrina.
> >
> > FiberTower will operate under a fixed-wireless
> > subcontract agreement with each carrier as they
> > compete for telecommunications business from
> > government agencies.
> >
> > I think it will be interesting to follow our
> taxpayers
> > dollars spent on this program in the next ten ot
> tweny
> > years.  And an opportunity for our federal
> government
> > to updrade our federal systems.
> > http://www.gcn.com/print/26_15/44523-1.html
> >
> >>From  a technologies point of view, the CEO of
> > FibreTower is from Flarion who got purchased by
> > Qualcomm.  The co-founder of Flarion was Lars
> > Johannson. Lars is a very sharp engineer who went
> on
> > to Beceem Communiations as executive in the
> > development of Mobile WiMax 802.16(e) chipsets and
> > frontrunner of WiMAX for OEMs and ODMs.  For those
> > following Beceem.. Intel was a big investor in
> BeCeem,
> > both based here in the Silicon Valley.  And Intel
> > developed the new mobile Centrino platorm called
> > Montevina which offers WiFi/WiMax enabled laptops.
> >
>
http://www.wimax.com/commentary/blog/blog-2007/intel-montevina-wimax
> > (plz pardon the self-promotion but it is a good
> > summary)
> >
> > Here are some refererence links:
> > Fibertower Earnings Statement - take a look at
> EBITDA
> >
>
http://www.fibertower.com/corp/downloads/press_releases/FT_Q107_Earnings_Release.pdf:
> >
> > Networx Universal & Sprint Vs Verizon
> >
>
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2007/04/03/sprint_to_meet_gsa_soon_on_telecom_bid/?rss_id=Boston+Globe+--+Technology+stories
> >
> > BeeCeem:
> >
>
http://www.lightreading.com/insider/document.asp?doc_id=85629
> >
> > Felix
> >
> > --- Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> A couple months late posting.  But interesting to
> >> see Verizon working its
> >> way into Fixed Wireless.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
http://www.fibertower.com/corp/solutions-government-networx.shtml
> >>
> >> Tom DeReggi
> >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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RE: [WISPA] email for Kris Towney

[Rick Harnish]

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Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
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Anyone?

Gino A. Villarini
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[WISPA] Donations for Sherianne Mabry

[John Scrivner]

For those of you who want to help, our friend Jeff Mabry lost his wife, 
Sherianne Mabry, on Monday evening. She was in a car which was hit by a 
truck in an intersection when the truck went through a red light and hit 
her car on the side. If any of you want to show your support for this 
family during their time of need then send a financial memorial to:



Mabry Children Fund
c/o City National Bank
Attn:  Kim
P O Box 380
Metropolis, IL 62968

WISPA has sent $250 to them. Mt. Vernon. Net sent in $100.Jeff has been 
a friend to us for many years. We are sorry for this tragic loss.

John Scrivner

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[WISPA] email for Kris Towney

[Gino Villarini]

Anyone?

Gino A. Villarini
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RE: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

[Gino Villarini]

DC clamp on the POE pairs is 70v why it wouldn't work?

Gino A. Villarini
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Behalf Of Michael Eck
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 3:37 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

Again, this one is not designed for use with VL.  It is for 48 VDC
devices.

Michael Eck
Applications Engineer
Alvarion, Inc.
1035 Elizabeth Street
Williamsport, PA
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Michael,

How about this one:

http://www.pacwireless.com/products/ESP-100-POE_datasheet.pdf

All the features requested by ALvarion for MRSP of $23.95  Nice 

Gino A. Villarini
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:40 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector


Mario,
I see a couple of critical differences between the recommended lightning
arrestors (Transtector ALPU-ALVR and Polyphaser IX-ALVR) and the
Altelicon unit to which you linked below.  

First, the Altelicon unit, like the Transtector ALPU-TSU that it intends
to be an alternative to, is designed to protect the Ethernet
communication pairs and 48 VDC power.  VL, however, operates at 54 VDC.
The ALPU-ALVR is designed to support and this higher operating voltage.
The ALPU-TSU supports a service voltage of 48 VDC.  Also, the ALPU-ALVR
protects the LED signal wire and Reset wire.

Additionally, the ALPU-ALVR supports the use of shielded CAT-5, a
requirement for VL.  The unit below does not appear to have a connection
for the cable shield drain wire.

Thanks,
  
Michael Eck
Applications Engineer
Alvarion, Inc.
1035 Elizabeth Street
Williamsport, PA
Tel: 570.601.6708
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 8:56 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

Hi,
Has anyone found a low cost alternative for lightning protectors for

the Alvarion VL equipment?  Transtector and Polyphaser protectors are in

the $100+ range.
Has anyone tried this one?
http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/al-cat5w.php
Thank in advance.

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[Rick Harnish]

Just doing more testing

 

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Just testing

 

Respectfully,

 

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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Problems

[Dennis Burgess]

what kind of disk?  If it is disk drive, might be time to reload.. if that
don't work, get another!

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I ahve a Mikrotik router that I use as  a PPPo E server.  This morning I
rebooted it and now whne it comes up it starts a disk check and stays
there.
Is there a way to make it bypass the check at boot up?   Any other
suggestions?

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RE: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

[Michael Eck]

Again, this one is not designed for use with VL.  It is for 48 VDC
devices.

Michael Eck
Applications Engineer
Alvarion, Inc.
1035 Elizabeth Street
Williamsport, PA
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Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

Michael,

How about this one:

http://www.pacwireless.com/products/ESP-100-POE_datasheet.pdf

All the features requested by ALvarion for MRSP of $23.95  Nice 

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Michael Eck
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector


Mario,
I see a couple of critical differences between the recommended lightning
arrestors (Transtector ALPU-ALVR and Polyphaser IX-ALVR) and the
Altelicon unit to which you linked below.  

First, the Altelicon unit, like the Transtector ALPU-TSU that it intends
to be an alternative to, is designed to protect the Ethernet
communication pairs and 48 VDC power.  VL, however, operates at 54 VDC.
The ALPU-ALVR is designed to support and this higher operating voltage.
The ALPU-TSU supports a service voltage of 48 VDC.  Also, the ALPU-ALVR
protects the LED signal wire and Reset wire.

Additionally, the ALPU-ALVR supports the use of shielded CAT-5, a
requirement for VL.  The unit below does not appear to have a connection
for the cable shield drain wire.

Thanks,
  
Michael Eck
Applications Engineer
Alvarion, Inc.
1035 Elizabeth Street
Williamsport, PA
Tel: 570.601.6708
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Skype: eck.michael
www.alvarion.com

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Subject: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

Hi,
Has anyone found a low cost alternative for lightning protectors for

the Alvarion VL equipment?  Transtector and Polyphaser protectors are in

the $100+ range.
Has anyone tried this one?
http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/al-cat5w.php
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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL on AM Tower

[Graham McIntire]

Correct, ideally you should place one at each end of the cable, right
before it's terminated.  They just clamp over the cable itself and
help reduce spurious RF by turning it in to heat before it gets to
your equipment.

If you're need to chock the cat5 and power line, I'd use a single
ferrite choke at the end of each cable (they're cheap).  That should
help cut down substantially on outside interference on the cables.

Graham

On 7/6/07, Doug Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So that just goes around the outside of the cable, like they have on
monitors?  Will that protect the ethernet and power at the same time?

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If you're in a pinch, Radio Shack part # 273-105 works.

Mouser and other part suppliers carry them as well for cheaper (not
sure on part #'s though, sorry).

Graham


On 7/6/07, Doug Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any info where to get one of these coils?
>
> Thanks
>
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>
> The Feritte coil will do the same, but used sheilded cat5..
>
> On 7/6/07, Doug Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I'm thinking about deploying a Alvarion VL 4 system on one of my towers,
> > and
> > I'd like to use the indoor chassis at the base.  However, the tower is a
> > non-live (i.e. its got an insulated antenna from the tower) at 5000
watts.
> > I have AC power at the top but I'd like to use the IDU/ODU system that
> > Alvarion uses.  Is there a form of shielded cat5 I can use that will
block
> > the RF pickup up the tower?  Normally a cat5 cable will instantly fry a
> > network port unless it's somehow filtered.  AC is easy to filter - a
choke
> > on the top and bottom solves the problem.  But DC power, is what I'm
> > concerned with.  Has anyone addressed an issue like this?
> >
> >
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RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL on AM Tower

[Doug Ratcliffe]

So that just goes around the outside of the cable, like they have on
monitors?  Will that protect the ethernet and power at the same time?

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Behalf Of Graham McIntire
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If you're in a pinch, Radio Shack part # 273-105 works.

Mouser and other part suppliers carry them as well for cheaper (not
sure on part #'s though, sorry).

Graham


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> Any info where to get one of these coils?
>
> Thanks
>
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> The Feritte coil will do the same, but used sheilded cat5..
>
> On 7/6/07, Doug Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm thinking about deploying a Alvarion VL 4 system on one of my towers,
> > and
> > I'd like to use the indoor chassis at the base.  However, the tower is a
> > non-live (i.e. its got an insulated antenna from the tower) at 5000
watts.
> > I have AC power at the top but I'd like to use the IDU/ODU system that
> > Alvarion uses.  Is there a form of shielded cat5 I can use that will
block
> > the RF pickup up the tower?  Normally a cat5 cable will instantly fry a
> > network port unless it's somehow filtered.  AC is easy to filter - a
choke
> > on the top and bottom solves the problem.  But DC power, is what I'm
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> >
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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL on AM Tower

[Graham McIntire]

If you're in a pinch, Radio Shack part # 273-105 works.

Mouser and other part suppliers carry them as well for cheaper (not
sure on part #'s though, sorry).

Graham


On 7/6/07, Doug Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Any info where to get one of these coils?

Thanks

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The Feritte coil will do the same, but used sheilded cat5..

On 7/6/07, Doug Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about deploying a Alvarion VL 4 system on one of my towers,
> and
> I'd like to use the indoor chassis at the base.  However, the tower is a
> non-live (i.e. its got an insulated antenna from the tower) at 5000 watts.
> I have AC power at the top but I'd like to use the IDU/ODU system that
> Alvarion uses.  Is there a form of shielded cat5 I can use that will block
> the RF pickup up the tower?  Normally a cat5 cable will instantly fry a
> network port unless it's somehow filtered.  AC is easy to filter - a choke
> on the top and bottom solves the problem.  But DC power, is what I'm
> concerned with.  Has anyone addressed an issue like this?
>
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RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL on AM Tower

[Doug Ratcliffe]

Any info where to get one of these coils?

Thanks

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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:39 PM
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The Feritte coil will do the same, but used sheilded cat5..

On 7/6/07, Doug Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about deploying a Alvarion VL 4 system on one of my towers,
> and
> I'd like to use the indoor chassis at the base.  However, the tower is a
> non-live (i.e. its got an insulated antenna from the tower) at 5000 watts.
> I have AC power at the top but I'd like to use the IDU/ODU system that
> Alvarion uses.  Is there a form of shielded cat5 I can use that will block
> the RF pickup up the tower?  Normally a cat5 cable will instantly fry a
> network port unless it's somehow filtered.  AC is easy to filter - a choke
> on the top and bottom solves the problem.  But DC power, is what I'm
> concerned with.  Has anyone addressed an issue like this?
>
>
>
> Thanks
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[WISPA] MikroTik Problems

[Jory Privett]

I ahve a Mikrotik router that I use as  a PPPo E server.  This morning I 
rebooted it and now whne it comes up it starts a disk check and stays there. 
Is there a way to make it bypass the check at boot up?   Any other 
suggestions?


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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL on AM Tower

[Dennis Burgess]

The Feritte coil will do the same, but used sheilded cat5..

On 7/6/07, Doug Ratcliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm thinking about deploying a Alvarion VL 4 system on one of my towers,
and
I'd like to use the indoor chassis at the base.  However, the tower is a
non-live (i.e. its got an insulated antenna from the tower) at 5000 watts.
I have AC power at the top but I'd like to use the IDU/ODU system that
Alvarion uses.  Is there a form of shielded cat5 I can use that will block
the RF pickup up the tower?  Normally a cat5 cable will instantly fry a
network port unless it's somehow filtered.  AC is easy to filter - a choke
on the top and bottom solves the problem.  But DC power, is what I'm
concerned with.  Has anyone addressed an issue like this?



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[WISPA] Alvarion VL on AM Tower

[Doug Ratcliffe]

I'm thinking about deploying a Alvarion VL 4 system on one of my towers, and
I'd like to use the indoor chassis at the base.  However, the tower is a
non-live (i.e. its got an insulated antenna from the tower) at 5000 watts.
I have AC power at the top but I'd like to use the IDU/ODU system that
Alvarion uses.  Is there a form of shielded cat5 I can use that will block
the RF pickup up the tower?  Normally a cat5 cable will instantly fry a
network port unless it's somehow filtered.  AC is easy to filter - a choke
on the top and bottom solves the problem.  But DC power, is what I'm
concerned with.  Has anyone addressed an issue like this?

 

Thanks

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RE: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

[Gino Villarini]

Michael,

How about this one:

http://www.pacwireless.com/products/ESP-100-POE_datasheet.pdf

All the features requested by ALvarion for MRSP of $23.95  Nice 

Gino A. Villarini
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Mario,
I see a couple of critical differences between the recommended lightning
arrestors (Transtector ALPU-ALVR and Polyphaser IX-ALVR) and the
Altelicon unit to which you linked below.  

First, the Altelicon unit, like the Transtector ALPU-TSU that it intends
to be an alternative to, is designed to protect the Ethernet
communication pairs and 48 VDC power.  VL, however, operates at 54 VDC.
The ALPU-ALVR is designed to support and this higher operating voltage.
The ALPU-TSU supports a service voltage of 48 VDC.  Also, the ALPU-ALVR
protects the LED signal wire and Reset wire.

Additionally, the ALPU-ALVR supports the use of shielded CAT-5, a
requirement for VL.  The unit below does not appear to have a connection
for the cable shield drain wire.

Thanks,
  
Michael Eck
Applications Engineer
Alvarion, Inc.
1035 Elizabeth Street
Williamsport, PA
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Hi,
Has anyone found a low cost alternative for lightning protectors for

the Alvarion VL equipment?  Transtector and Polyphaser protectors are in

the $100+ range.
Has anyone tried this one?
http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/al-cat5w.php
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RE: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

[Michael Eck]

Mario,
I see a couple of critical differences between the recommended lightning
arrestors (Transtector ALPU-ALVR and Polyphaser IX-ALVR) and the
Altelicon unit to which you linked below.  

First, the Altelicon unit, like the Transtector ALPU-TSU that it intends
to be an alternative to, is designed to protect the Ethernet
communication pairs and 48 VDC power.  VL, however, operates at 54 VDC.
The ALPU-ALVR is designed to support and this higher operating voltage.
The ALPU-TSU supports a service voltage of 48 VDC.  Also, the ALPU-ALVR
protects the LED signal wire and Reset wire.

Additionally, the ALPU-ALVR supports the use of shielded CAT-5, a
requirement for VL.  The unit below does not appear to have a connection
for the cable shield drain wire.

Thanks,
  
Michael Eck
Applications Engineer
Alvarion, Inc.
1035 Elizabeth Street
Williamsport, PA
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Hi,
Has anyone found a low cost alternative for lightning protectors for

the Alvarion VL equipment?  Transtector and Polyphaser protectors are in

the $100+ range.
Has anyone tried this one?
http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/al-cat5w.php
Thank in advance.

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[WISPA] Community Connect Broadband Grant Program - Applications Period Open

[Felix A. Lopez]

Dear WiSPS, The USDA just sent out this new
annoucement.  I plan to review tonight.

Felix
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RE: [WISPA] Trango & VOIP

[Gino Villarini]

With the new 5.3 requirements coming in effect this month, I doubt any of the 
companies mentioned are Fcc Certified...

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5.7-5.8 is not enough on its own.  You also need 5.3Ghz or 5.4Ghz solution.
Thats why we still are spending time with OEM gear like ADI, Mikrotik, 
StarOS, Deliberant, and similar certified gear. Its for 5.3Ghz.
Trango and Alvarion have been great for our Super Cells and 5.8Ghz.

Tom DeReggi
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I could certainly see how Trango could be superior to other multi-modulation 
systems.  Others would up and down speed, affecting overall performance 
while Trango is going to be either working or dropping packets (which only 
affects one customer, with ARQ off).

I am close to picking Trango but since Trango is discontinuing 5.3 due to 
DFS requirements, now I'm starting to wonder if 5.7-5.8 is enough.

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>>But can systems like Mikrotik for
>>QOS adequately pack the packets over the wireless
>
>Good Question, that I do not have the answer to.
> I had thought that there was some trade off in latency doing the packet
>combining on slow processor boards.
>One of the big reasons, I have been an advocate for higher processor
>400-533Mhz boards.
>
>The Trangos have a higher PPS count than you might think. (I no longer have
>the data on what that amount actually is)
>The DSSS/TDD radios are also more consistent in their delivery of
>throughput, which make them more predictable then a radio that may be fast
>90% of the time but frequently drop down to low speeds, and drop VOIP
>packets during the process.
>
>>But in the same sense, its not as cut and dry as oversubscription.
>
>Agreed, but on the other hand, its not as cut and dry as having high PPS
>count either.
>
>Tom DeReggi
>RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
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>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Doug Ratcliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:39 AM
>Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango & VOIP
>
>
>But in the same sense, its not as cut and dry as oversubscription.  If it
>were, then a 5Mbps/5Mbps ratio could give me 103 calls/Mbit (IAX2/G729) but
>in reality, that's 100k PPS per 100 calls, making it unworkable.  But at 
>the
>same token, if I decide 15 concurrent calls @ G711 per AP is a usable 
>number
>with bandwidth left over, I can manage oversubscription there.
>
>Ultimately, it's the PPS that kills it.  But can systems like Mikrotik for
>QOS adequately pack the packets over the wireless so that instead of
>transmitting 100 300byte packets, to transmit 20 1500byte packets?
>
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>Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
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>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango & VOIP
>
>I have plenty of VOIP customers behind my Trango network.
>I'm also getting excellent results using Targeted Technologies proprietary
>8K stream VOIP even over my 900Mhz Trango.
>Trango has plenty of processing power and pps performance to do VOIP.
>
>The relevent question is, is the oversubscription rate you plan to use on
>your network within the capabilty of delivering VOIP?
>There are many challenges in delivering quality VOIP over ANY PtMP network
>design.
>
>Although prioirtization helps, its not the one save all feature. In PtMP 
>end
>
>users must compete for upload time of the AP, even smart polling systems do
>not 100% solve this issue in an oversubscribed network, although helps
>significantly. Backend prioiritization is not enough for upload direction,
>if it gets choked at the AP before it reaches the prioritization.  If you
>are going to do VOIP, you must be more conservative on your 
>oversubscription
>
>rate, and you will be fine.  On the download side it is not a problem as
>traffic will reach the bandwdith management/prioiritization before it
>reaches the AP.
>
>With that said, Trango had been working on a VOIP prioritized firmware last
>year for the 5580, I do not know if it was released or not.
>The second issue is whether you are designing your Trango network with
>enough RF margin.  Never never use a bare 5580 radio, its pointless.  The
>Behive antennas are now shipping for the Trango 5580 also!! They work 
>great,
>
>and bring the signal up to between 15-18 db antenna 

Re: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

[Mike Hammett]

*nods*  I'd actually be connecting the main house with another house and a 
shop, so no radios, but there would be switches.


I didn't even think about APC.  oops!

Here is a great standalone unit.  Froogle has some good prices on them.
http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PNET1GB

They don't seem to have the rackmount ones in gigabit friendly 
configurations.



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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 8:58 AM
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Mike,

It seems to me that it would be no different than a phone line - - if you
do not surge protect it you stand the chance of losing your radios just 
like

folks always lose their modems in their PC's.

This is what I use in the NOC and at my tower sites:

http://www.sparco.com/cgi-bin/wfind2?spn=A758105

They sale 8 module racks as well as about 12 or 15 module racks that are
rack mountable. I don't have any Alvarion - -so this may not apply.



Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Rayville, La.
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*Behalf Of Mike Hammett
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*
*Would someone need one of these when installing cat5 underground from
*one
*building to the other?
*
*
*-
*Mike Hammett
*Intelligent Computing Solutions
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*From: "Mario Pommier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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*Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 7:55 AM
*Subject: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector
*
*
*> Hi,
*>Has anyone found a low cost alternative for lightning protectors
*for
*> the Alvarion VL equipment?  Transtector and Polyphaser protectors are
*in
*> the $100+ range.
*>Has anyone tried this one?
*> http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/al-cat5w.php
*>Thank in advance.
*>
*> Mario
*>
*>
*>
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RE: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

[Mac Dearman]

Mike,

 It seems to me that it would be no different than a phone line - - if you
do not surge protect it you stand the chance of losing your radios just like
folks always lose their modems in their PC's.

This is what I use in the NOC and at my tower sites:

http://www.sparco.com/cgi-bin/wfind2?spn=A758105

They sale 8 module racks as well as about 12 or 15 module racks that are
rack mountable. I don't have any Alvarion - -so this may not apply.



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*Would someone need one of these when installing cat5 underground from
*one
*building to the other?
*
*
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*Mike Hammett
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*- Original Message -
*From: "Mario Pommier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To: "WISPA General List" 
*Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 7:55 AM
*Subject: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector
*
*
*> Hi,
*>Has anyone found a low cost alternative for lightning protectors
*for
*> the Alvarion VL equipment?  Transtector and Polyphaser protectors are
*in
*> the $100+ range.
*>Has anyone tried this one?
*> http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/al-cat5w.php
*>Thank in advance.
*>
*> Mario
*>
*>
*>
*>
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Re: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

[Mike Hammett]

Would someone need one of these when installing cat5 underground from one 
building to the other?



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- Original Message - 
From: "Mario Pommier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 7:55 AM
Subject: [WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector



Hi,
   Has anyone found a low cost alternative for lightning protectors for 
the Alvarion VL equipment?  Transtector and Polyphaser protectors are in 
the $100+ range.
   Has anyone tried this one? 
http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/al-cat5w.php

   Thank in advance.

Mario





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[WISPA] alternative for Alvarion VL lightning protector

[Mario Pommier]

Hi,
   Has anyone found a low cost alternative for lightning protectors for 
the Alvarion VL equipment?  Transtector and Polyphaser protectors are in 
the $100+ range.

   Has anyone tried this one? http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/al-cat5w.php
   Thank in advance.

Mario





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