[WISPA] service layers examples and solutions

2008-06-08 Thread Rogelio
I'm looking at offering various service layers through wireless and was
wondering if others here perhaps had any examples that they might share.

Some of the ideas I'm kicking around are:

basic: free, limited downloads, all p2p traffic blocked, have to
reauthenticate every hour or so
regular: nominal fee for more things
premium: pay the most, get the most...

Also, I'm looking for solutions that help tier out these service (e.g.
RADIUS).  Any advice in this department would be greatly apprecited.

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[WISPA] mesh throughput?

2008-06-08 Thread Rogelio
I've been reading up on mesh throughput numbers, and I'd like to know what
people here think about some of these ballpark numbers I've been reading (I
have yet to see these in real life)
single radio mesh: 1-2 Mbps
dual radio mesh: 3-4 Mbps
switched radio mesh: 5-10 Mbps

One vendor is advertising triple play services on their switched radio
mesh, and I don't see how HD TV is possible without fiber, so I'm assuming
that they must mean surveillance TV or something like that.

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Re: [WISPA] service layers examples and solutions

2008-06-08 Thread Charles N Wyble
Rogelio,

This is very similar to something I am putting together. See
http://wiki.socalwifi.net for details.

I'm in the process of deploying OpenLDAP/Kerberos/OpenVPN/FreeRADIUS.
Numerous Howtos abound.

I am planning on producing an end to end howto once the process is
complete. I'll put it on the wiki.

Charles


Rogelio wrote:
 I'm looking at offering various service layers through wireless and was
 wondering if others here perhaps had any examples that they might share.

 Some of the ideas I'm kicking around are:

 basic: free, limited downloads, all p2p traffic blocked, have to
 reauthenticate every hour or so
 regular: nominal fee for more things
 premium: pay the most, get the most...

 Also, I'm looking for solutions that help tier out these service (e.g.
 RADIUS).  Any advice in this department would be greatly apprecited.

   




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Re: [WISPA] service layers examples and solutions

2008-06-08 Thread Rogelio
On 6/8/08, Charles N Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is very similar to something I am putting together. See
 http://wiki.socalwifi.net for details.

 I'm in the process of deploying OpenLDAP/Kerberos/OpenVPN/FreeRADIUS.
 Numerous Howtos abound.

 I am planning on producing an end to end howto once the process is
 complete. I'll put it on the wiki.


I'm looking primarily for two pieces:

(1) the levels themselves (and what each level gives user of that level)

(2) technology that addresses the nuts and bolts of that level.

In each case, I'm assuming that the business model works out.  As a sort of
focal point, I'm looking at something that might work in, say, an apartment
building or larger office complex sort of environment.  In other words, some
sort of service that a building owner might consider putting some money into
if he was going to cover his whole area with wireless and wanted to make
sure that various users got what they paid for (or got very little for what
they didn't pay for!)



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[WISPA] NASA Worldwind

2008-06-08 Thread Rogelio
Has anyone here played with NASA's WorldWind?

http://wiki.socalwifi.net

I tried to get it going yesterday, but my video card wouldn't take it.  I'm
thinking that perhaps this would be a good compliment to Google Earth and MS
Liv Maps for assessing wifi coverage in certain areas.

(Any other Google Earth / MS Live replacements would be greatly
appreciated!)

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Re: [WISPA] service layers examples and solutions

2008-06-08 Thread Charles N Wyble
Ack! That should have been http://wiki.socalwifi.org


Rogelio wrote:
 On 6/8/08, *Charles N Wyble* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is very similar to something I am putting together. See
 http://wiki.socalwifi.net for details.

 I'm in the process of deploying OpenLDAP/Kerberos/OpenVPN/FreeRADIUS.
 Numerous Howtos abound.

 I am planning on producing an end to end howto once the process is
 complete. I'll put it on the wiki.

  
 I'm looking primarily for two pieces:
  
 (1) the levels themselves (and what each level gives user of that level)
  
 (2) technology that addresses the nuts and bolts of that level.
  
 In each case, I'm assuming that the business model works out.  As a
 sort of focal point, I'm looking at something that might work in, say,
 an apartment building or larger office complex sort of environment. 
 In other words, some sort of service that a building owner might
 consider putting some money into if he was going to cover his whole
 area with wireless and wanted to make sure that various users got what
 they paid for (or got very little for what they didn't pay for!)




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Re: [WISPA] NASA Worldwind

2008-06-08 Thread Charles N Wyble
I think you wanted http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/ :)

Cool site. Didn't know about it.

I am also interested in GIS systems and using them to help plan wifi
coverage etc.

Charles


Rogelio wrote:
 Has anyone here played with NASA's WorldWind?

 http://wiki.socalwifi.net

 I tried to get it going yesterday, but my video card wouldn't take it.  I'm
 thinking that perhaps this would be a good compliment to Google Earth and MS
 Liv Maps for assessing wifi coverage in certain areas.

 (Any other Google Earth / MS Live replacements would be greatly
 appreciated!)

   




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Re: [WISPA] User check program

2008-06-08 Thread Jeremie Chism
I have some software writers that could do this pretty easy if you could
provide some more information on what you want (user interface etc.)






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[WISPA] Mikrotik User Manager- Help needed

2008-06-08 Thread ralph
I'm very frustrated with this application. Having trouble getting SSL
activated on the authentication server.
I have posted numerous times on MT's forum and received not even one answer.
I have not received any support from my support ticket either.

Who is the best MT consultant to use to help me figure out what is wrong?

Thanks

Ralph
Brightlan.net
Atlanta




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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Manager- Help needed

2008-06-08 Thread Frank Crawford
Post your question here and I think you will get and answer.
http://www.wisp-forums.com/

Frank

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 I'm very frustrated with this application. Having trouble getting SSL
 activated on the authentication server.
 I have posted numerous times on MT's forum and received not even one 
 answer.
 I have not received any support from my support ticket either.

 Who is the best MT consultant to use to help me figure out what is wrong?

 Thanks

 Ralph
 Brightlan.net
 Atlanta



 
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Re: [WISPA] mesh throughput?

2008-06-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Single radio  mesh sucks, on the bench it might work OK but out in the real
world with other AP's in the vicinity it might be so bad you can't use it
for much.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
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Subject: [WISPA] mesh throughput?

I've been reading up on mesh throughput numbers, and I'd like to know what
people here think about some of these ballpark numbers I've been reading (I
have yet to see these in real life)
single radio mesh: 1-2 Mbps
dual radio mesh: 3-4 Mbps
switched radio mesh: 5-10 Mbps

One vendor is advertising triple play services on their switched radio
mesh, and I don't see how HD TV is possible without fiber, so I'm assuming
that they must mean surveillance TV or something like that.

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Manager- Help needed

2008-06-08 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE
Ralph -- please contact me off list.

Thanks leon

* ralph wrote, On 6/8/2008 2:43 PM:
 I'm very frustrated with this application. Having trouble getting SSL
 activated on the authentication server.
 I have posted numerous times on MT's forum and received not even one answer.
 I have not received any support from my support ticket either.

 Who is the best MT consultant to use to help me figure out what is wrong?

 Thanks

 Ralph
 Brightlan.net
 Atlanta



 
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Re: [WISPA] mesh throughput?

2008-06-08 Thread Tom Sharples
You must be looking at some older technologies. In clean environments, we're 
seeing  20+ mb/s net data throughput on our dual radio nodes (5 Ghz).

Tom Sharples
Qorvus Systems, Inc.

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Subject: [WISPA] mesh throughput?


 I've been reading up on mesh throughput numbers, and I'd like to know what
 people here think about some of these ballpark numbers I've been reading 
 (I
 have yet to see these in real life)
 single radio mesh: 1-2 Mbps
 dual radio mesh: 3-4 Mbps
 switched radio mesh: 5-10 Mbps

 One vendor is advertising triple play services on their switched radio
 mesh, and I don't see how HD TV is possible without fiber, so I'm assuming
 that they must mean surveillance TV or something like that.

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Re: [WISPA] mesh throughput?

2008-06-08 Thread Rogelio
Tom Sharples wrote:
 You must be looking at some older technologies. In clean environments, we're 
 seeing  20+ mb/s net data throughput on our dual radio nodes (5 Ghz).

Ah, very cool.  Please share with me these vendors!

So, assuming that you set up the channels to not step on each other, 
this type of throughput is fairly solid for a dual radio units?




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