[WISPA] MT DOMs
Hi, We have used a lot of the PQI DOM (Disk on Module) units for our Mikrotik installations in x86 systems. However, some of the newer systemboards don't even have IDE on them, only SATA. Does anyone know a good source for the same type of module, but in a SATA form factor? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT DOMs
I did a search for sata dom and found one or two. They are out there, but I haven't purchased yet. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT DOMs Hi, We have used a lot of the PQI DOM (Disk on Module) units for our Mikrotik installations in x86 systems. However, some of the newer systemboards don't even have IDE on them, only SATA. Does anyone know a good source for the same type of module, but in a SATA form factor? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software
Mark, Im already working today but give me a ring. I should be heading up to Boise too so service is iffy for a ways. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for software that records video and audio from a windows computer (client uses a cam attached to a computer) whenever motion is detected, and uploads it to a remote server. This is, of course, part of an investigation or evidence collection (not sure which) dealing with divorce/children/domestic violence. Thus, the need for the software to automatically upload to a remote location to prevent its being found and deleted by the party under investigation. If you know of something, I need some help ASAP with this. Much appreciated. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT DOMs
http://www.memory.com/item.asp?item=TS1GSDOM22V This is what you're looking for, right? Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT DOMs I did a search for sata dom and found one or two. They are out there, but I haven't purchased yet. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT DOMs Hi, We have used a lot of the PQI DOM (Disk on Module) units for our Mikrotik installations in x86 systems. However, some of the newer systemboards don't even have IDE on them, only SATA. Does anyone know a good source for the same type of module, but in a SATA form factor? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software
One of the quickest and easiest ways is the Wilife system. I think Logitech owns the company now. It has relatively inexpensive but very smart cameras and some stealth cameras (clock radio camera) etc. It communicates with the computer via the power line (homeplug). Very simple to install. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:12 PM Subject: [WISPA] Looking for webcam/security software I'm looking for software that records video and audio from a windows computer (client uses a cam attached to a computer) whenever motion is detected, and uploads it to a remote server. This is, of course, part of an investigation or evidence collection (not sure which) dealing with divorce/children/domestic violence. Thus, the need for the software to automatically upload to a remote location to prevent its being found and deleted by the party under investigation. If you know of something, I need some help ASAP with this. Much appreciated. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas
Drew, Who sells/stocks it? I also saw someone was selling what looked like the MTI Dual pol 25dbi for about $200, I think it was wlanparts.com. Thats starting to get affordable. I'm fine with Dual Pol dishes for $225, its a lot of metal. Plus there usually needed for more critical links. Also used more often on tower sites where I get charge per antenna. However, when a standard panel is only $50, it can't be that more expensive to add a couple more elements for the second pol. Clearly a lot of markup fat in the price model. I think there is a huge market for the dual pol Panels at sub $150, but at $250, a WISP really has to think about whether its worth their while, when they can just install two single pol antennas side by side. Expecially if isntalled on customer roofs where there aren;t colo fees. I see no reasons that the smaller gain panels couldn't be made and sold for sub $125. Don't get me wrong, its still good news to learn of new DP panels available as option. Trango also has their external model, but its about $300. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas A product I really like for dual-pole is the Mars WA56-DP25N. It's a pretty inexpensive panel from 4.9 - 5.875 @ 25dBi .. There are 2 versions, 1 is the antenna alone, the other is with an enclosure. Its ~ $260. I know its not $150, but its not too bad! -d On Sep 25, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Mike Brownson wrote: A broadband dual pol dish will work from 5.2 to 5.9Ghz. You'll get the same gain on both polarities. But there's noting I know of less than $150. Usually dual pol dishes are used where you may need a higher quality antenna, so all the manufacturers I know of (RadioWaves, Maxrad, Pac Wireless) for dual pol are the higher grade varieties. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Blair Davis Sent: Thu 9/25/2008 8:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas All this talk about Dual Pol feedhorns has got me curious I'm looking for a dual pol antenna... What I need is H-Pol on 5.3GHz band with 18db or more of gain and V- Pol on 5.8GHz with 15db or more of gain. A narrow beam width is a plus. A grid or a dish will be fine. I'd like to keep the price down as if it is over $150 or so, it really won't be cost effective. I can mount 2 antennas at this location if I have to. This is for a short link, about 2000ft, but it will be at the end of about 50ft of LMR-400. Thanks for any ideas Blair This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. winmail.dat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas
Well, at $150 each, thats great! Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas We use the MTI MT-485025/NVH, 23dBi dual-pol panel and have found them as low as $150 each. !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head /head body bgcolor=#ff text=#00 All this talk about Dual Pol feedhorns has got me curiousbr br I'm looking for a dual pol antenna...br br What I need is H-Pol on 5.3GHz band with 18db or more of gain and V-Pol on 5.8GHz with 15db or more of gain. A narrow beam width is a plus.br br A grid or a dish will be fine. I'd like to keep the price down as if it is over $150 or so, it really won't be cost effective. I can mount 2 antennas at this location if I have to.br br This is for a short link, about 2000ft, but it will be at the end of about 50ft of LMR-400.br br Thanks for any ideasbr br Blairbr br /body /html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas
A dual pol panel antenna can be an order of magnitude more difficult to make than a single linear polarized antenna. Almost all panel antennas are either an array of patches or an array of butterfly dipole elements over a ground plane. Most designers are trying to put as much gain in the area as they can. The means the feed network and driven elements are crammed in so close together that you suffer some degradation. To make a dual pol patch you have to use a square patch. That already is less than optimum. Then you have to produce a second feed mechanism for feeding the second feed point on all the patches. That means other layers and intermediate ground planes etc. Not easy at all. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas Drew, Who sells/stocks it? I also saw someone was selling what looked like the MTI Dual pol 25dbi for about $200, I think it was wlanparts.com. Thats starting to get affordable. I'm fine with Dual Pol dishes for $225, its a lot of metal. Plus there usually needed for more critical links. Also used more often on tower sites where I get charge per antenna. However, when a standard panel is only $50, it can't be that more expensive to add a couple more elements for the second pol. Clearly a lot of markup fat in the price model. I think there is a huge market for the dual pol Panels at sub $150, but at $250, a WISP really has to think about whether its worth their while, when they can just install two single pol antennas side by side. Expecially if isntalled on customer roofs where there aren;t colo fees. I see no reasons that the smaller gain panels couldn't be made and sold for sub $125. Don't get me wrong, its still good news to learn of new DP panels available as option. Trango also has their external model, but its about $300. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas A product I really like for dual-pole is the Mars WA56-DP25N. It's a pretty inexpensive panel from 4.9 - 5.875 @ 25dBi .. There are 2 versions, 1 is the antenna alone, the other is with an enclosure. Its ~ $260. I know its not $150, but its not too bad! -d On Sep 25, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Mike Brownson wrote: A broadband dual pol dish will work from 5.2 to 5.9Ghz. You'll get the same gain on both polarities. But there's noting I know of less than $150. Usually dual pol dishes are used where you may need a higher quality antenna, so all the manufacturers I know of (RadioWaves, Maxrad, Pac Wireless) for dual pol are the higher grade varieties. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Blair Davis Sent: Thu 9/25/2008 8:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas All this talk about Dual Pol feedhorns has got me curious I'm looking for a dual pol antenna... What I need is H-Pol on 5.3GHz band with 18db or more of gain and V- Pol on 5.8GHz with 15db or more of gain. A narrow beam width is a plus. A grid or a dish will be fine. I'd like to keep the price down as if it is over $150 or so, it really won't be cost effective. I can mount 2 antennas at this location if I have to. This is for a short link, about 2000ft, but it will be at the end of about 50ft of LMR-400. Thanks for any ideas Blair This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. winmail.dat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants
[WISPA] channel planning question
Up til recently, for channel planning, I've simply been picking the channels with the lowest RSSI. This isn't a great method, as beacon channels at high RSSI may have way less collision than other channels. What tools do others here use to analyze this sort of thing? (F/OSS ones are preferable) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP Training
Butch, Since you guide people to training I was wondering if there is a down and dirty course on getting the best out of Microtik radios, including programming, diagnosing problems and optimizing the features. I have found some but they are usually a grand and last for months. I'd like to find something a bit lower and quicker, any ideas? Thanks, Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas
I dont want to sound like a commercial on the list until everything is squared away with our vendor membership but you can contact me off- list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) thanks! -drew On Sep 27, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Drew, Who sells/stocks it? I also saw someone was selling what looked like the MTI Dual pol 25dbi for about $200, I think it was wlanparts.com. Thats starting to get affordable. I'm fine with Dual Pol dishes for $225, its a lot of metal. Plus there usually needed for more critical links. Also used more often on tower sites where I get charge per antenna. However, when a standard panel is only $50, it can't be that more expensive to add a couple more elements for the second pol. Clearly a lot of markup fat in the price model. I think there is a huge market for the dual pol Panels at sub $150, but at $250, a WISP really has to think about whether its worth their while, when they can just install two single pol antennas side by side. Expecially if isntalled on customer roofs where there aren;t colo fees. I see no reasons that the smaller gain panels couldn't be made and sold for sub $125. Don't get me wrong, its still good news to learn of new DP panels available as option. Trango also has their external model, but its about $300. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas A product I really like for dual-pole is the Mars WA56-DP25N. It's a pretty inexpensive panel from 4.9 - 5.875 @ 25dBi .. There are 2 versions, 1 is the antenna alone, the other is with an enclosure. Its ~ $260. I know its not $150, but its not too bad! -d On Sep 25, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Mike Brownson wrote: A broadband dual pol dish will work from 5.2 to 5.9Ghz. You'll get the same gain on both polarities. But there's noting I know of less than $150. Usually dual pol dishes are used where you may need a higher quality antenna, so all the manufacturers I know of (RadioWaves, Maxrad, Pac Wireless) for dual pol are the higher grade varieties. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Blair Davis Sent: Thu 9/25/2008 8:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas All this talk about Dual Pol feedhorns has got me curious I'm looking for a dual pol antenna... What I need is H-Pol on 5.3GHz band with 18db or more of gain and V- Pol on 5.8GHz with 15db or more of gain. A narrow beam width is a plus. A grid or a dish will be fine. I'd like to keep the price down as if it is over $150 or so, it really won't be cost effective. I can mount 2 antennas at this location if I have to. This is for a short link, about 2000ft, but it will be at the end of about 50ft of LMR-400. Thanks for any ideas Blair This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. winmail.dat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas
ARC makes a 20dbi dual pol antenna for pretty cheap. We've used some of the single pol antennas and they are not too shabby for the price. http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=ARC-ID5820B01eq=Tp= Worth a shot for the price. ~Cameron Midcoast Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Lentz Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas I dont want to sound like a commercial on the list until everything is squared away with our vendor membership but you can contact me off- list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) thanks! -drew On Sep 27, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Drew, Who sells/stocks it? I also saw someone was selling what looked like the MTI Dual pol 25dbi for about $200, I think it was wlanparts.com. Thats starting to get affordable. I'm fine with Dual Pol dishes for $225, its a lot of metal. Plus there usually needed for more critical links. Also used more often on tower sites where I get charge per antenna. However, when a standard panel is only $50, it can't be that more expensive to add a couple more elements for the second pol. Clearly a lot of markup fat in the price model. I think there is a huge market for the dual pol Panels at sub $150, but at $250, a WISP really has to think about whether its worth their while, when they can just install two single pol antennas side by side. Expecially if isntalled on customer roofs where there aren;t colo fees. I see no reasons that the smaller gain panels couldn't be made and sold for sub $125. Don't get me wrong, its still good news to learn of new DP panels available as option. Trango also has their external model, but its about $300. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas A product I really like for dual-pole is the Mars WA56-DP25N. It's a pretty inexpensive panel from 4.9 - 5.875 @ 25dBi .. There are 2 versions, 1 is the antenna alone, the other is with an enclosure. Its ~ $260. I know its not $150, but its not too bad! -d On Sep 25, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Mike Brownson wrote: A broadband dual pol dish will work from 5.2 to 5.9Ghz. You'll get the same gain on both polarities. But there's noting I know of less than $150. Usually dual pol dishes are used where you may need a higher quality antenna, so all the manufacturers I know of (RadioWaves, Maxrad, Pac Wireless) for dual pol are the higher grade varieties. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Blair Davis Sent: Thu 9/25/2008 8:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas All this talk about Dual Pol feedhorns has got me curious I'm looking for a dual pol antenna... What I need is H-Pol on 5.3GHz band with 18db or more of gain and V- Pol on 5.8GHz with 15db or more of gain. A narrow beam width is a plus. A grid or a dish will be fine. I'd like to keep the price down as if it is over $150 or so, it really won't be cost effective. I can mount 2 antennas at this location if I have to. This is for a short link, about 2000ft, but it will be at the end of about 50ft of LMR-400. Thanks for any ideas Blair This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. winmail.dat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] WISP Training
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, Forbes Mercy wrote: Since you guide people to training I was wondering if there is a down and dirty course on getting the best out of Microtik radios, including programming, diagnosing problems and optimizing the features. I have found some but they are usually a grand and last for months. I'd like to find something a bit lower and quicker, any ideas? Actually, Forbes, I will let ya in on a little secret. Just don't tell anyone. ;-) I am nearly done with some very unique training courses. Each will be very short and will cover very specific topics. The method to access this information is an upcoming announcement, but should be very soon (about a month). I can tell you that you will see more than just Mikrotik resources, too. You can make suggestions for topics you'd like to see if you like. I set up a temporary wiki site at http://wiki.butchevans.com/. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT DOMs
Just curious, is MT bootable from a USB key? If so, that might be cheaper still. Travis Johnson wrote: Yes. Thanks. I found another unit, but it was more expensive for smaller size. Travis Microserv Brad Belton wrote: http://www.memory.com/item.asp?item=TS1GSDOM22V This is what you're looking for, right? Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT DOMs I did a search for sata dom and found one or two. They are out there, but I haven't purchased yet. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT DOMs Hi, We have used a lot of the PQI DOM (Disk on Module) units for our Mikrotik installations in x86 systems. However, some of the newer systemboards don't even have IDE on them, only SATA. Does anyone know a good source for the same type of module, but in a SATA form factor? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas
Interesting. I wasn't saying that it isn't hard. Some manufacturers have found easy and cost effective ways to make Dual Pol antennas. But I'm guessing there could be some intelectual property patent issues, or anyone to do it? But there has to be some savings attributed to shared costs such as ... mounts, case, shipping costs, overhead, distributor markup, RD. These things are all a tangable cost that goes toward the cost of a single pol antenna, and are not increased when the inside of the antenna design gets modified to be DP. I'd be intereted in what percentage of a single pol antenna cost is for the above 4 things compared to the element itself. Truthfully, we have come a long way with DP design and price for parabolics and subscriber panels. What realy confuses me is, why manufacturers still can;t come up with a low cost DP AP sector antenna? Its ironic as heck, that trango can sell an entire AP radio and int DP sector antenna, for less than third parties sell a single DP sector antenna by itself. Thats still the missing peice of the puzzle in 5.x Ghz DP. Its Ironic as heck... Titltek can make a 4ft 900Mhz dual pol 90deg for under $700. But can't find a 2ft 5.x Ghz Dp 90 for less than a grand. The last few I did, I took my old Trango 5800s, drill holes in them for the pigtails, took out the SBC, and used them for the antenna. It was cheaper than buying an antenna. A couple vendors have represented that they can make them. But I don't see part numbers listed. I'd love to see these in the sub $300 range. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas A dual pol panel antenna can be an order of magnitude more difficult to make than a single linear polarized antenna. Almost all panel antennas are either an array of patches or an array of butterfly dipole elements over a ground plane. Most designers are trying to put as much gain in the area as they can. The means the feed network and driven elements are crammed in so close together that you suffer some degradation. To make a dual pol patch you have to use a square patch. That already is less than optimum. Then you have to produce a second feed mechanism for feeding the second feed point on all the patches. That means other layers and intermediate ground planes etc. Not easy at all. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas Drew, Who sells/stocks it? I also saw someone was selling what looked like the MTI Dual pol 25dbi for about $200, I think it was wlanparts.com. Thats starting to get affordable. I'm fine with Dual Pol dishes for $225, its a lot of metal. Plus there usually needed for more critical links. Also used more often on tower sites where I get charge per antenna. However, when a standard panel is only $50, it can't be that more expensive to add a couple more elements for the second pol. Clearly a lot of markup fat in the price model. I think there is a huge market for the dual pol Panels at sub $150, but at $250, a WISP really has to think about whether its worth their while, when they can just install two single pol antennas side by side. Expecially if isntalled on customer roofs where there aren;t colo fees. I see no reasons that the smaller gain panels couldn't be made and sold for sub $125. Don't get me wrong, its still good news to learn of new DP panels available as option. Trango also has their external model, but its about $300. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas A product I really like for dual-pole is the Mars WA56-DP25N. It's a pretty inexpensive panel from 4.9 - 5.875 @ 25dBi .. There are 2 versions, 1 is the antenna alone, the other is with an enclosure. Its ~ $260. I know its not $150, but its not too bad! -d On Sep 25, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Mike Brownson wrote: A broadband dual pol dish will work from 5.2 to 5.9Ghz. You'll get the same gain on both polarities. But there's noting I know of less than $150. Usually dual pol dishes are used where you may need a higher quality antenna, so all the manufacturers I know of (RadioWaves, Maxrad, Pac Wireless) for dual pol are the higher grade varieties. Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Blair Davis Sent: Thu 9/25/2008 8:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas All this talk about Dual Pol feedhorns has
