[WISPA] WISP Directory - please register

[Matt Larsen - Lists]

Inventive Media would like to formally announce the unveiling of the 
WISP Directory 2.0 at http://www.wispdirectory.com/ - now with zip code 
search, ratings, reviews and WISP Technology used by each WISP.

Inventive Media has put a few hundred hours into revising the directory, 
weeding out dead entries and filling out the information on incomplete 
listings, and we now have over 1800 verified WISPs in the US, and 169 
listings for WISP-related businesses. Our goals are as follows: 1) 
Collect the coverage information for each WISP by ZIP Code so we can 
direct customers to the WISPs 2) Show the FCC, news media and other 
organizations that WISPs are providing coverage to an enormous 
geographic footprint 3) Help define the places where broadband is still 
needed in the US.

Setting up a listing on the WISP Directory is simple and costs nothing. 
Click on the “User Login” button at the top and you will be taken to a 
form that will ask for your name, username for the site and a password. 
All accounts are manually approved to prevent spam, and you will receive 
an email when the account has been activated.

To add your own entry, simply browse to the appropriate Category, and 
click on the “Add your listing here” link at the top of the category. 
You can then put in the following information:

- Name of the business

- Description of the business

- Postal Address

- Telephone/Fax

- Contact E-mail

- Website Address

- ZIP Codes where service is offered

- Type of WISP Technology used

- WISPA Member

If you have filed an FCC Form 477, use the same zip codes for the 
service offering field. You can select multiple types of WISP 
Technology, according to the mix of equipment deployed. WISPA Membership 
status will be verified if it is selected.

If your business is already listed in the directory, go ahead and 
register, then send an email to i...@wispdirectory.com 
 asking to have ownership of your listing 
transferred to your username. Once ownership is granted, you will be 
able to make modifications to your listing at any time.

Feel free to look around the site and offer up corrections for any 
outdated or inaccurate listings, and rate and/or review any vendors or 
service providers from the WISP-related businesses that you have done 
business with. Encourage your users to use the directory and provide 
reviews and ratings for your business – especially if they are happy 
customers. This is a great place for WISPs to show how they are doing a 
great job providing competitive broadband service – nothing carries as 
much weight as a good customer testimonial.

If you feel that there is something missing from the Directory, let us 
know. We have some other features that are in progress and will be 
deployed on the site over the next few months, but would welcome any 
feedback or ideas on how to make it work better.

If you run a WISP operation, or a business that sells to WISPs, please 
take the time to register on the WISP Directory and help us show the 
world what WISPs are doing to bridge the digital divide.

Thank you for your support!

Matt Larsen

Inventive Media / WISP Directory




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Re: [WISPA] Dems blast FCC chief Martin for Obad manne rs¹

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Yah..





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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA]Dems blast FCC chief Martin for Obad manners¹


> Looks like a witch hunt to me.
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Re: [WISPA] Dems blast FCC chief Martin for Obad manne rs¹

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Looks like a witch hunt to me.
marlon

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Subject: [WISPA] Dems blast FCC chief Martin for Obad manners¹


> http://government.zdnet.com/?p=4217
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Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans

[George Rogato]

When I hit that hydrant way back in 78 I didn't tell the insurance 
company anything!


Josh Luthman wrote:
> You are the reason car insurance is so expensive.
> 
> On 12/11/08, George Rogato  wrote:
>> Man I miss the snow. In New England we had a lot of snow.
>>
>> Around here it snows like 1/2" every couple years and then people forget
>> how to drive.
>>
>> Me, I like to drive down the main street doing donuts and figure 8's.
>>
>>
>> Joe Laura wrote:
>>> Not sure how you guys deal with this snow stuff. We got a "blizzard" this
>>> morning. About 3/4" worth. Power outages, school closings and traffic was
>>> a
>>> mess.  Im glad its only one day every few years.
>>> Joe Laura
>>> Superior Alarm/Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans

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You are the reason car insurance is so expensive.

On 12/11/08, George Rogato  wrote:
> Man I miss the snow. In New England we had a lot of snow.
>
> Around here it snows like 1/2" every couple years and then people forget
> how to drive.
>
> Me, I like to drive down the main street doing donuts and figure 8's.
>
>
> Joe Laura wrote:
>> Not sure how you guys deal with this snow stuff. We got a "blizzard" this
>> morning. About 3/4" worth. Power outages, school closings and traffic was
>> a
>> mess.  Im glad its only one day every few years.
>> Joe Laura
>> Superior Alarm/Wireless
>> New Orleans,La.
>> www.superior1.com
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Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans

[George Rogato]

Man I miss the snow. In New England we had a lot of snow.

Around here it snows like 1/2" every couple years and then people forget 
how to drive.

Me, I like to drive down the main street doing donuts and figure 8's.


Joe Laura wrote:
> Not sure how you guys deal with this snow stuff. We got a "blizzard" this
> morning. About 3/4" worth. Power outages, school closings and traffic was a
> mess.  Im glad its only one day every few years.
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> Superior Alarm/Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

[Josh Luthman]

I agree with Tom - from this point on I have been doing installs like
that.  Grids are not my thing but ARC and backfires are awesome!

On 12/11/08, Tom Sharples  wrote:
> We quit using grids completely after they practically decomposed into a
> corroded blob at an installation at the Port of Maui a couple years ago. Now
> we use14db backfires wherever possible, or if we need more gain, panels like
> the ARC or pacwireless solid dishes. With their intrinsic radome, these seem
> to hold up very well for us. Just double-check the polarity markings which
> can be wrong.
>
> Tom Sharples
> www.qorvus.com
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
>
>
>> Not really anything that can be done. At least when we get freezing rain
>> it
>> melts within the next day. I've had a backhaul 5ghz grid go down from very
>> minimal ice before. That was a bad night
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
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>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:48 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
>>
>> I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on
>> grid antennas.  I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where
>> weather
>> is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the
>> luxury.
>>
>> I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand)
>> should help for at least a few months - is this so?
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

[George Rogato]

I actually like to use rootennas instead of the back fires. I make my 
own jumpers out of LMR240.

George

Tom Sharples wrote:
> We quit using grids completely after they practically decomposed into a 
> corroded blob at an installation at the Port of Maui a couple years ago. Now 
> we use14db backfires wherever possible, or if we need more gain, panels like 
> the ARC or pacwireless solid dishes. With their intrinsic radome, these seem 
> to hold up very well for us. Just double-check the polarity markings which 
> can be wrong.
> 
> Tom Sharples
> www.qorvus.com
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
> 
> 
>> Not really anything that can be done. At least when we get freezing rain 
>> it
>> melts within the next day. I've had a backhaul 5ghz grid go down from very
>> minimal ice before. That was a bad night
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:48 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
>>
>> I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on
>> grid antennas.  I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where 
>> weather
>> is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the 
>> luxury.
>>
>> I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand)
>> should help for at least a few months - is this so?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

[Tom Sharples]

We quit using grids completely after they practically decomposed into a 
corroded blob at an installation at the Port of Maui a couple years ago. Now 
we use14db backfires wherever possible, or if we need more gain, panels like 
the ARC or pacwireless solid dishes. With their intrinsic radome, these seem 
to hold up very well for us. Just double-check the polarity markings which 
can be wrong.

Tom Sharples
www.qorvus.com


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From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas


> Not really anything that can be done. At least when we get freezing rain 
> it
> melts within the next day. I've had a backhaul 5ghz grid go down from very
> minimal ice before. That was a bad night
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:48 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
>
> I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on
> grid antennas.  I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where 
> weather
> is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the 
> luxury.
>
> I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand)
> should help for at least a few months - is this so?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

[CHUCK PROFITO]

Now Butch, you're now yanking on Yagi's 

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Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 20:18 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Well I will apply some sex wax and see how it plays out in the winter!

Well, if it was Bob's suggestion, you know it must be good.  Plus, you
can imagine what a Yagi may be doing during those long, cold, dark
nights all winter long where some sex wax may be useful.

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Re: [WISPA] TDD GPS Sync in Wifi chipsets ...

[Doug Ratcliffe]

That brings Skypilot back as a viable solution for WISPs again...

- Original Message - 
From: "Gino Villarini" 
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:47 PM
Subject: [WISPA] TDD GPS Sync in Wifi chipsets ...


> Apparently Skypilot has done it
>
> http://www.dailywireless.org/2008/12/11/skypilot-synchronous-mesh-to-end
> -users/
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> even has firmware for Ubiquity line of CPE
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Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

[Butch Evans]

On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 20:18 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Well I will apply some sex wax and see how it plays out in the winter!

Well, if it was Bob's suggestion, you know it must be good.  Plus, you
can imagine what a Yagi may be doing during those long, cold, dark
nights all winter long where some sex wax may be useful.

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Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

[Josh Luthman]

Well I will apply some sex wax and see how it plays out in the winter!

On 12/11/08, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> Not really anything that can be done. At least when we get freezing rain it
> melts within the next day. I've had a backhaul 5ghz grid go down from very
> minimal ice before. That was a bad night
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:48 AM
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> Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
>
> I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on
> grid antennas.  I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather
> is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury.
>
> I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand)
> should help for at least a few months - is this so?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

[Adam Goodman]

Yes, there is a spray (cheaper but doen n that the sattelite folks
use. There is also ot work as well) an iseophobic paint (very
expensive and I hope it works better - I will test some soon).

-Adam



On 12/11/08, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on
> grid antennas.  I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather
> is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury.
>
> I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand)
> should help for at least a few months - is this so?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
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Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Not really anything that can be done. At least when we get freezing rain it
melts within the next day. I've had a backhaul 5ghz grid go down from very
minimal ice before. That was a bad night

Kurt Fankhauser
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:48 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on
grid antennas.  I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather
is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury.

I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand)
should help for at least a few months - is this so?

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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[WISPA] TDD GPS Sync in Wifi chipsets ...

[Gino Villarini]

Apparently Skypilot has done it
 
http://www.dailywireless.org/2008/12/11/skypilot-synchronous-mesh-to-end
-users/
 
even has firmware for Ubiquity line of CPE
 

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[WISPA] TR-FDD

[Larry A Weidig]

Has anybody used Tranzeo's N-connector kit for the TR-FDD radios
to hook them up to external antennas.  Any tricks for getting the
N-connector through the metal plate and plastic cover that you care to
share?  For us this is the longest part of setting these up.  Almost
frustrating enough to stop purchasing them.  Thanks!

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[WISPA] Canopy vs. Ubiquiti 2.4

[Matt]

Has anyone used both Canopy 2.4 gear and Ubiquiti 2.4 Nano &
Powerstations?  How do they compare?

Canopy works pretty well for us but the cost is getting up there.
Extra for an AP, extra for advantage, extra for BAM, extra for AES.
Plus more throughput would be nice.  But without GPS sync I might hurt
myself bad with self interference.

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Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

[Josh Luthman]

Thanks for the suggestion!  I will order myself some sex wax.

I will also order some for the antennas.

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On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:07 PM,  wrote:

> Use Sex Wax or something similar that is used for ski's. Pam doesn't cut it
>
> Bob
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>
> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:48:00
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas
>
>
> I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on
> grid antennas.  I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where
> weather
> is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury.
>
> I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand)
> should help for at least a few months - is this so?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
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Re: [WISPA] survey

[reader]

That would have been all the back in ...  02?  And on the ISP-Wireless 
lists, before they got crazy paranoid about competition or whatever it was 
that caused them to start banning people left and right way back whenever.

I haven't been back there since, no idea how those lists go today.

Anyway, you said that residential as a primary focus was not financially 
feasible, and most of that was based on the fact that CPE was not much under 
1K at the time.   This was before the advent of Atheros as a huge player in 
the chipset market and wifi based stuff was mostly done with Lucent stuff...

I said I needed a 200 dollar CPE.   Today I'm a little over that, it's FCC 
compliant, and the flexibility of the platform I started out with has been, 
well, great.

Ahh, the good old days of wandering in a wilderness of unexplored 
possibilities. :)







- Original Message - 
From: "Patrick Leary" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] survey


> Well, I don't remember ever saying residential wireless cannot be done,
> especially since I've had many customers doing it for years. I have
> frequently said that many come in to the business saying they want to do
> a 100% residential play, to which I generally commented that a mix was
> better and healthier, with commercial users tapping capacity in the day
> and the networking weighting towards residential at night. That was an
> efficient way to leverage your network's capacity. One thing I have
> absolutely said is that business connections were the low hanging fruit.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Patrick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:38 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] survey
>
> Yeah, amazing how stuff changes...
>
> I once recall having a list monopolizing debate with Patrick that went
> on to the point of rousing a mob...
>
> Patrick arguing that residential wireless could not be done, and me
> arguing
> that without residential, wireless was doomed.   I wonder if he
> remembers...
>
> Just FYI, Patrick.   You were so determined that residential wireless
> could
> not be done that I went out and did it.
>
> Just wanted you to know that :)
>
>
>
> 
> 
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] survey
>
>
>> After, God  it seems like forever  at least since I started
>> looking
>> into being a WISP Patrick was with Alvarion...  now to see Aperto
>> it's
>> so weird.
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: "Patrick Leary" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:48 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Cc: 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] survey
>>
>>> Obviously I am commenting late, so sorry for that, but what jumps out
>>> for me is that this shows that "list" participation is weighted
> towards
>>> Canopy users. Canopy users have built a vibrant community of
> operators,
>>> especially under the august stewardship and commitment of Chuck from
> the
>>> operator side. That said, I suspect of non-802.11 and non-WiMAX type
>>> networks, Motorola enjoys a MAJORITY share.
>>>
>>> For sure though I can tell you as an ex-Alvarion person, that most
>>> Alvarion users are not active list participants, so the count of
>>> subscribers and concurrent single digit percentages are meaningless.
>>>
>>> In other words, this survey is not a reflection of reality of the
>>> market, only the reality of this set of lists.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>> Aperto
>>> 813.426.4230 mobile
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
>>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 1:47 PM
>>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>>> Cc: motor...@wispa.org
>>> Subject: [WISPA] survey
>>>
>>>  Brand # Subs % By Subs
>>>  Redline 286 0.56%
>>>  Alvarion 938 1.83%
>>>  Ubiquity 960 1.88%
>>>  Canopy 32933 64.39%
>>>  Other 4345 8.49%
>>>  Trango 8217 16.06%
>>>  MT 3471 6.79%
>>>  Total 51150 100.00%
>>>
>>>  Responses 47
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[WISPA] Service Inquiry

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Re: [WISPA] more Cisco VLAN help

[Matt Liotta]

Well... they are layer3 switches, so you just create an interface in  
the VLAN you are testing and see if you can ping it.

-Matt

On Dec 11, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

> Yes, every switch has 1, 104 and 105 in the vlan database.
>
> I could try and do that, but I'm not sure how I could even check  
> from switch to switch? Each switch is in a different customer  
> location all over town, and would require one of my techs to go from  
> location to location and plugging in and seeing if they can get out?  
> Is there some other way to "check"?
>
> Travis
>
>
> Matt Liotta wrote:
>>
>> Does every switch have 104 and 105 in the vlan database? If so, I
>> would try and extend the vlan between two neighbor switches. If that
>> works extend it farther. Do that again and again until you find the
>> problem.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Here ya go...
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Matt Liotta wrote:
>>>
 A diagram would really help.

 -Matt

 On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:



> Hi,
>
> I am still having a slight issue with a new setup of a Cisco VLAN.
> Here
> is how things are now:
>
> We have about 60 Cisco switches (3500 series) all connected  
> together
> (one after another) in a giant "ring". Every fiber port has  
> trunking
> enabled for all three VLANS (1, 104, 105). On two of the switches
> (separated by about 20 other switches) one FastEthernet port on  
> each
> switch has an "access vlan 105" setup. We also have spanning-tree
> disabled on every switch but one (neither of the ones with the
> access
> ports) and it does seem to be working correctly because one of the
> fiber
> ports shows "forwarding" and the other shows "blocking", which  
> means
> the
> VLAN is going all the way around the ring (or so it seems).
>
> However, we can not get any traffic to pass. I have even  
> installed a
> traffic sniffer and setup the switch at our NOC with that VLAN  
> (105)
> and
> there is only an occasional broadcast packet.
>
> Is there any kind of a limit to the number of switches that
> spanning-tree or VLANs will traverse? What am I missing here?
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
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Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

[lakeland]

Use Sex Wax or something similar that is used for ski's. Pam doesn't cut it

Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Josh Luthman" 

Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:48:00 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas


I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on
grid antennas.  I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather
is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury.

I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand)
should help for at least a few months - is this so?

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Re: [WISPA] survey

[Patrick Leary]

Well, I don't remember ever saying residential wireless cannot be done,
especially since I've had many customers doing it for years. I have
frequently said that many come in to the business saying they want to do
a 100% residential play, to which I generally commented that a mix was
better and healthier, with commercial users tapping capacity in the day
and the networking weighting towards residential at night. That was an
efficient way to leverage your network's capacity. One thing I have
absolutely said is that business connections were the low hanging fruit.


Cheers,

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] survey

Yeah, amazing how stuff changes...

I once recall having a list monopolizing debate with Patrick that went
on to the point of rousing a mob...

Patrick arguing that residential wireless could not be done, and me
arguing 
that without residential, wireless was doomed.   I wonder if he
remembers...

Just FYI, Patrick.   You were so determined that residential wireless
could 
not be done that I went out and did it.

Just wanted you to know that :)






- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] survey


> After, God  it seems like forever  at least since I started 
> looking
> into being a WISP Patrick was with Alvarion...  now to see Aperto 
> it's
> so weird.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --
> From: "Patrick Leary" 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:48 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] survey
>
>> Obviously I am commenting late, so sorry for that, but what jumps out
>> for me is that this shows that "list" participation is weighted
towards
>> Canopy users. Canopy users have built a vibrant community of
operators,
>> especially under the august stewardship and commitment of Chuck from
the
>> operator side. That said, I suspect of non-802.11 and non-WiMAX type
>> networks, Motorola enjoys a MAJORITY share.
>>
>> For sure though I can tell you as an ex-Alvarion person, that most
>> Alvarion users are not active list participants, so the count of
>> subscribers and concurrent single digit percentages are meaningless.
>>
>> In other words, this survey is not a reflection of reality of the
>> market, only the reality of this set of lists.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Patrick
>> Aperto
>> 813.426.4230 mobile
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3
>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 1:47 PM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Cc: motor...@wispa.org
>> Subject: [WISPA] survey
>>
>>  Brand # Subs % By Subs
>>  Redline 286 0.56%
>>  Alvarion 938 1.83%
>>  Ubiquity 960 1.88%
>>  Canopy 32933 64.39%
>>  Other 4345 8.49%
>>  Trango 8217 16.06%
>>  MT 3471 6.79%
>>  Total 51150 100.00%
>>
>>  Responses 47
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [WISPA] BitTorrent to go UDP in next release

[jp]

I think it would make great sense. It would increase security for the 
peers as well, if it could get it from a local user more often and a 
less often from a potentially entertainment industry monitored source.

We also use private ASNs at sites, and we have one Internet-facing 
public ASN encompassing all our network. So if it had a means of 
preferring peers with fewer AS hops, that would seem most efficient and 
compatible.

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Re: [WISPA] more Cisco VLAN help

[Travis Johnson]

Yes, every switch has 1, 104 and 105 in the vlan database.

I could try and do that, but I'm not sure how I could even check from
switch to switch? Each switch is in a different customer location all
over town, and would require one of my techs to go from location to
location and plugging in and seeing if they can get out? Is there some
other way to "check"?

Travis


Matt Liotta wrote:

  Does every switch have 104 and 105 in the vlan database? If so, I  
would try and extend the vlan between two neighbor switches. If that  
works extend it farther. Do that again and again until you find the  
problem.

-Matt

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:

  
  
Here ya go...

Travis
Microserv

Matt Liotta wrote:


  A diagram would really help.

-Matt

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:


  
  
Hi,

I am still having a slight issue with a new setup of a Cisco VLAN.
Here
is how things are now:

We have about 60 Cisco switches (3500 series) all connected together
(one after another) in a giant "ring". Every fiber port has trunking
enabled for all three VLANS (1, 104, 105). On two of the switches
(separated by about 20 other switches) one FastEthernet port on each
switch has an "access vlan 105" setup. We also have spanning-tree
disabled on every switch but one (neither of the ones with the  
access
ports) and it does seem to be working correctly because one of the
fiber
ports shows "forwarding" and the other shows "blocking", which means
the
VLAN is going all the way around the ring (or so it seems).

However, we can not get any traffic to pass. I have even installed a
traffic sniffer and setup the switch at our NOC with that VLAN (105)
and
there is only an occasional broadcast packet.

Is there any kind of a limit to the number of switches that
spanning-tree or VLANs will traverse? What am I missing here?

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Re: [WISPA] more Cisco VLAN help

[Travis Johnson]

Yes. We've been running it for almost 11 years now we only use it
for very basic monitoring (icmp monitoring of devices)... but the thing
that is nice is that it's very fast to alert for problems... almost too
fast... :(

Travis


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  Travis,

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On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  
 Here ya go...

Travis
Microserv


Matt Liotta wrote:

A diagram would really help.

-Matt

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:



 Hi,

I am still having a slight issue with a new setup of a Cisco VLAN.
Here
is how things are now:

We have about 60 Cisco switches (3500 series) all connected together
(one after another) in a giant "ring". Every fiber port has trunking
enabled for all three VLANS (1, 104, 105). On two of the switches
(separated by about 20 other switches) one FastEthernet port on each
switch has an "access vlan 105" setup. We also have spanning-tree
disabled on every switch but one (neither of the ones with the access
ports) and it does seem to be working correctly because one of the
fiber
ports shows "forwarding" and the other shows "blocking", which means
the
VLAN is going all the way around the ring (or so it seems).

However, we can not get any traffic to pass. I have even installed a
traffic sniffer and setup the switch at our NOC with that VLAN (105)
and
there is only an occasional broadcast packet.

Is there any kind of a limit to the number of switches that
spanning-tree or VLANs will traverse? What am I missing here?

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Re: [WISPA] more Cisco VLAN help

[Matt Liotta]

Does every switch have 104 and 105 in the vlan database? If so, I  
would try and extend the vlan between two neighbor switches. If that  
works extend it farther. Do that again and again until you find the  
problem.

-Matt

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:

> Here ya go...
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Matt Liotta wrote:
>>
>> A diagram would really help.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am still having a slight issue with a new setup of a Cisco VLAN.
>>> Here
>>> is how things are now:
>>>
>>> We have about 60 Cisco switches (3500 series) all connected together
>>> (one after another) in a giant "ring". Every fiber port has trunking
>>> enabled for all three VLANS (1, 104, 105). On two of the switches
>>> (separated by about 20 other switches) one FastEthernet port on each
>>> switch has an "access vlan 105" setup. We also have spanning-tree
>>> disabled on every switch but one (neither of the ones with the  
>>> access
>>> ports) and it does seem to be working correctly because one of the
>>> fiber
>>> ports shows "forwarding" and the other shows "blocking", which means
>>> the
>>> VLAN is going all the way around the ring (or so it seems).
>>>
>>> However, we can not get any traffic to pass. I have even installed a
>>> traffic sniffer and setup the switch at our NOC with that VLAN (105)
>>> and
>>> there is only an occasional broadcast packet.
>>>
>>> Is there any kind of a limit to the number of switches that
>>> spanning-tree or VLANs will traverse? What am I missing here?
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
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Re: [WISPA] more Cisco VLAN help

[Josh Luthman]

Travis,

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On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Here ya go...
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> Matt Liotta wrote:
>
> A diagram would really help.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>
>
>
>  Hi,
>
> I am still having a slight issue with a new setup of a Cisco VLAN.
> Here
> is how things are now:
>
> We have about 60 Cisco switches (3500 series) all connected together
> (one after another) in a giant "ring". Every fiber port has trunking
> enabled for all three VLANS (1, 104, 105). On two of the switches
> (separated by about 20 other switches) one FastEthernet port on each
> switch has an "access vlan 105" setup. We also have spanning-tree
> disabled on every switch but one (neither of the ones with the access
> ports) and it does seem to be working correctly because one of the
> fiber
> ports shows "forwarding" and the other shows "blocking", which means
> the
> VLAN is going all the way around the ring (or so it seems).
>
> However, we can not get any traffic to pass. I have even installed a
> traffic sniffer and setup the switch at our NOC with that VLAN (105)
> and
> there is only an occasional broadcast packet.
>
> Is there any kind of a limit to the number of switches that
> spanning-tree or VLANs will traverse? What am I missing here?
>
> Travis
> Microserv
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Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans

[3-dB Networks]

I remember when I lived in the Los Angeles area back in the early 90's and
it snowed about that much once... man it was weird...

Now I live in Colorado and it snows that much its just annoying :-)

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> Not sure how you guys deal with this snow stuff. We got a "blizzard" this
> morning. About 3/4" worth. Power outages, school closings and traffic was
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Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans

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Says the guy that looks out his southern window to see the Gulf of Mexico...

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On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Joe Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Joe,
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> No Snow here in Biloxi, MS as of 1100 hrs CST
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> > Not sure how you guys deal with this snow stuff. We got a
> > "blizzard" this
> > morning. About 3/4" worth. Power outages, school
> > closings and traffic was a
> > mess.  Im glad its only one day every few years.
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Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans

[Joe Miller]

Joe,

No Snow here in Biloxi, MS as of 1100 hrs CST


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> "blizzard" this
> morning. About 3/4" worth. Power outages, school
> closings and traffic was a
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[WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

[Josh Luthman]

I am curious to know if anyone does anything to prepare for lots of ice on
grid antennas.  I know that it is best to use a dish and cover where weather
is prone to these kinds of things but some installs do not have the luxury.

I have heard that spraying Pam (or some kind of oil, regardless of brand)
should help for at least a few months - is this so?

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Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans

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Snow around here is usually less then 12".  Anything more then that schools
may or may not close, depending on the current superintendent (we go through
this cycle - no closings, car accidents when coming into school, new
superintendent, lots of closings).

If less then an inch took out your power someone isn't doing their job
right...

We have had 1/4" sheets of ice around everything - buildings, cars, towers,
antennas, power lines hanging a few feet lower - and the power stays on for
most of the area and everything operates as it would normally.  Except those
damn grid antennas...

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> I've busted through big drifts in a truck with a plow, and in my car.
> Car is more fun, as long as it's not hard or wet snow.
>
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 09:28:49AM -0700, Travis Johnson wrote:
> > Wow... schools closed? Really? We usually have to get 12 inches or more
> > PLUS a big wind (20-30mph) for them to close our schools here anymore.
> > Honestly though, there is nothing I like more than busting fresh, 4 foot
> > snow drifts with my truck on the way to work in the morning... :)
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> this
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Re: [WISPA] more Cisco VLAN help

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A diagram would really help.

-Matt

On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am still having a slight issue with a new setup of a Cisco VLAN.  
> Here
> is how things are now:
>
> We have about 60 Cisco switches (3500 series) all connected together
> (one after another) in a giant "ring". Every fiber port has trunking
> enabled for all three VLANS (1, 104, 105). On two of the switches
> (separated by about 20 other switches) one FastEthernet port on each
> switch has an "access vlan 105" setup. We also have spanning-tree
> disabled on every switch but one (neither of the ones with the access
> ports) and it does seem to be working correctly because one of the  
> fiber
> ports shows "forwarding" and the other shows "blocking", which means  
> the
> VLAN is going all the way around the ring (or so it seems).
>
> However, we can not get any traffic to pass. I have even installed a
> traffic sniffer and setup the switch at our NOC with that VLAN (105)  
> and
> there is only an occasional broadcast packet.
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> spanning-tree or VLANs will traverse? What am I missing here?
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[WISPA] more Cisco VLAN help

[Travis Johnson]

Hi,

I am still having a slight issue with a new setup of a Cisco VLAN. Here 
is how things are now:

We have about 60 Cisco switches (3500 series) all connected together 
(one after another) in a giant "ring". Every fiber port has trunking 
enabled for all three VLANS (1, 104, 105). On two of the switches 
(separated by about 20 other switches) one FastEthernet port on each 
switch has an "access vlan 105" setup. We also have spanning-tree 
disabled on every switch but one (neither of the ones with the access 
ports) and it does seem to be working correctly because one of the fiber 
ports shows "forwarding" and the other shows "blocking", which means the 
VLAN is going all the way around the ring (or so it seems).

However, we can not get any traffic to pass. I have even installed a 
traffic sniffer and setup the switch at our NOC with that VLAN (105) and 
there is only an occasional broadcast packet.

Is there any kind of a limit to the number of switches that 
spanning-tree or VLANs will traverse? What am I missing here?

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Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans

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I've busted through big drifts in a truck with a plow, and in my car. 
Car is more fun, as long as it's not hard or wet snow.

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 09:28:49AM -0700, Travis Johnson wrote:
> Wow... schools closed? Really? We usually have to get 12 inches or more 
> PLUS a big wind (20-30mph) for them to close our schools here anymore. 
> Honestly though, there is nothing I like more than busting fresh, 4 foot 
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Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

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On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 02:12:17AM -0600, Sam Tetherow wrote:
> I don't think they are any more complex than MT in fact they are quite a 
> bit simpler, however where MT does shine is in the documentation.  In 
> fact there is so much MT documentation it can be overwhelming at times.
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MT Documentation is very weak. It's a dim bulb, not a shine. They are 
improving with the wiki though. Just now they are getting around to 
updating the 3.x documentation by moving it to the wiki. They are off to 
a good start and I hope they finish it.

There are lots of things not well documented, mostly featured added in 
3.x or things changed over the years. Fetch hasn't been ever been well 
documented for example. File naming conventions/rules, BGP docs was 
never updated from v2.9 till they recently started putting it on their 
wiki. Lots of things offer examples, but no documenting of the feature 
options.

If you want good documentation, look at HP Procurve, Cisco IOS and 
routers, Alvarion, Redhat, SuSE, Mysql.

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Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans

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Wow... schools closed? Really? We usually have to get 12 inches or more 
PLUS a big wind (20-30mph) for them to close our schools here anymore. 
Honestly though, there is nothing I like more than busting fresh, 4 foot 
snow drifts with my truck on the way to work in the morning... :)

Travis
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Nowhere, Idaho

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> morning. About 3/4" worth. Power outages, school closings and traffic was a
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Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans

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Not sure how you guys deal with this snow stuff. We got a "blizzard" this
morning. About 3/4" worth. Power outages, school closings and traffic was a
mess.  Im glad its only one day every few years.
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[WISPA] Dems blast FCC chief Martin for Œbad man ners¹

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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 5Plus radio

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Hutton and Streakwave are known to carry Tranzeo, have you tried them?
Where else have you looked?

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[WISPA] Tranzeo 5Plus radio

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Re: [WISPA] survey

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All-

I don't quite get what the major "change" we are seeing here is. Patrick was
an exec at one major wimax and pre wimax company ( alvarion ) and now he
works for Aperto, another major wimax and pre wimax company. 

And as much as some people may not like to debate, I personally love a good
solid debate where people trade facts and argue their positions. Ultimately
that leads to education of everyone who participates. I look forward to many
more debates on here. :)






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Yeah, amazing how stuff changes...

I once recall having a list monopolizing debate with Patrick that went on to
the point of rousing a mob...

Patrick arguing that residential wireless could not be done, and me arguing 
that without residential, wireless was doomed.   I wonder if he remembers...

Just FYI, Patrick.   You were so determined that residential wireless could 
not be done that I went out and did it.

Just wanted you to know that :)






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> After, God  it seems like forever  at least since I started 
> looking
> into being a WISP Patrick was with Alvarion...  now to see Aperto 
> it's
> so weird.
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> From: "Patrick Leary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Obviously I am commenting late, so sorry for that, but what jumps out
>> for me is that this shows that "list" participation is weighted towards
>> Canopy users. Canopy users have built a vibrant community of operators,
>> especially under the august stewardship and commitment of Chuck from the
>> operator side. That said, I suspect of non-802.11 and non-WiMAX type
>> networks, Motorola enjoys a MAJORITY share.
>>
>> For sure though I can tell you as an ex-Alvarion person, that most
>> Alvarion users are not active list participants, so the count of
>> subscribers and concurrent single digit percentages are meaningless.
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>> In other words, this survey is not a reflection of reality of the
>> market, only the reality of this set of lists.
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>> Cheers,
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>>  Brand # Subs % By Subs
>>  Redline 286 0.56%
>>  Alvarion 938 1.83%
>>  Ubiquity 960 1.88%
>>  Canopy 32933 64.39%
>>  Other 4345 8.49%
>>  Trango 8217 16.06%
>>  MT 3471 6.79%
>>  Total 51150 100.00%
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