Re: [WISPA] RIP
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 00:13 -0500, RickG wrote: > Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? If you wish to build a NEW dynamic routing based network, use OSPF if you can. If you are integrating a legacy network that is already running RIP, then it works, but there's a reason that NEW dynamic routing technologies were created. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 22:27 -0800, George Rogato wrote: > I will see your OSPF and raise it with an OLSR OLSR is designed for mesh networks. It doesn't really apply to this particular question. Not to mention, OLSR is still pretty experimental. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP
Good to talk with legacy products. For a "new" network use OSPF. /Eje --Original Message-- From: RickG Sender: To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RIP Sent: Dec 18, 2008 23:13 Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP
I will see your OSPF and raise it with an OLSR Actually we also have some ospf. George Josh Luthman wrote: > OSPF is by far superior I think... > > On 12/19/08, RickG wrote: >> Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? >> -RickG >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP Directory map update with land area calculations
Updated my info. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Brian Webster" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:50 PM To: "WISPA List" ; Subject: [WISPA] WISP Directory map update with land area calculations > Matt sent me an updated list of zip codes and two other WISP's had me add > their network footprint to this version of the map. Land area covered now > is > 460,627 square miles. > > View the map here : http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm > This map is still not ready for production, just posting it for those who > are curious. > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP
OSPF is by far superior I think... On 12/19/08, RickG wrote: > Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? > -RickG > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RIP
Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WISP Directory map update with land area calculations
Matt sent me an updated list of zip codes and two other WISP's had me add their network footprint to this version of the map. Land area covered now is 460,627 square miles. View the map here : http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm This map is still not ready for production, just posting it for those who are curious. Thank You, Brian Webster WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
> How about a composite fiber map? Chuck, BTW: How did you get your gigabit Level3 connection? At least I think I remember you saying you have a gigabit to Level3. Did they have a fiber near you or something? Is the pricing super, good or just decent? Is it on a Qwest loop or anything like that? With a gigabit to Level3 I doubt you need bandwidth too bad right now. ;<) Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
There is some of that yes, but it's a lot more available and affordably available than one might think. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Tom DeReggi" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:58 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > There is tons of Fiber all over the place. Its just supply is controlled > like the Diamond industry to keep the price high. > The question is Can you get access to it at the right price? > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Hammett" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > > >> Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? >> >> Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri >> along >> with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... >> >> Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Mark McElvy" >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >>> ShowMe Power >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> >>> If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From: "Mark McElvy" >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they can transport for me. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth Mark McElvy wrote: > I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or > Rolla Missouri. Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut >>> and 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get basically as much connectivity as you want there. David Smith MVN.net >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >>
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
There is tons of Fiber all over the place. Its just supply is controlled like the Diamond industry to keep the price high. The question is Can you get access to it at the right price? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? > > Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along > with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... > > Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mark McElvy" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > >> ShowMe Power >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >> If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Mark McElvy" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >>> I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has >>> POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they >>> can transport for me. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >>> Behalf Of David E. Smith >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> >>> Mark McElvy wrote: I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or Rolla Missouri. >>> >>> Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? >>> Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut >> and >>> >>> 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get >>> basically as much connectivity as you want there. >>> >>> David Smith >>> MVN.net >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1855 - Release Date: > 12/18/2008 10:16 AM > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -
[WISPA] Anyone dumping SR9's?
I've got a need for a single SR9.This is a freebie I'm doing for someone. The new SR9 I bought was defective, and my last remaining reserve also failed... I know lotsa folks are trading out SR9's for Xr9's. I have very few SR9's deployed and I'm using only XR9's now, but for this freebie, I don't want to buy new XR's. So if you've got working SR9's... I'd like to get one cheap... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list
It's the Google Maps requirement. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: D. Ryan Spott [mailto:rsp...@cspott.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:53 PM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list Is the public portion of the website a requirement of Google Maps? or something else? ryan Brian Webster wrote: > I can create a Google Map interface with address lookup capability and plot > any address lists for POP's and such that people can feed me. This data > needs to not be under an NDA however and the map would have to be on a > public portion of a web site (Maybe the WISPA site). I can host it if there > are no other takers. The key would be a good address list with contact > information. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:10 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list > > > Brian Webster suggested that we make a list (posted to the WISPA site) of > bandwidth carriers. > > I'd be happy to help on this effort, but I certainly don't have the time (or > the programming skills) to dedicate to make it what I would like to see. > > I'm thinking as grand as type in a ZIP code and it tells you the nearest POP > meeting certain characteristics of which could be carrier, technologies > supported (wireless, TDM, Ethernet, etc.), service type (DIA, dark fiber, > PtP transport, MPLS transport, etc.), and others. > > It could be as simple as just a basic list of companies. > > What would you guys like to see? > > I'm thinking that people could contribute their knowledge of what's > available, then someone confirms if that's true or not. > > In comes the problem of carriers thinking of their POP locations and > capabilities as a hush, hush secret instead of a marketing tool. > > I think this would be a great tool to have as a benefit to WISPA membership, > but alas my effort would be self defeating as I'm not a WISPA member > (funds). > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- -- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list
Is the public portion of the website a requirement of Google Maps? or something else? ryan Brian Webster wrote: > I can create a Google Map interface with address lookup capability and plot > any address lists for POP's and such that people can feed me. This data > needs to not be under an NDA however and the map would have to be on a > public portion of a web site (Maybe the WISPA site). I can host it if there > are no other takers. The key would be a good address list with contact > information. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:10 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list > > > Brian Webster suggested that we make a list (posted to the WISPA site) of > bandwidth carriers. > > I'd be happy to help on this effort, but I certainly don't have the time (or > the programming skills) to dedicate to make it what I would like to see. > > I'm thinking as grand as type in a ZIP code and it tells you the nearest POP > meeting certain characteristics of which could be carrier, technologies > supported (wireless, TDM, Ethernet, etc.), service type (DIA, dark fiber, > PtP transport, MPLS transport, etc.), and others. > > It could be as simple as just a basic list of companies. > > What would you guys like to see? > > I'm thinking that people could contribute their knowledge of what's > available, then someone confirms if that's true or not. > > In comes the problem of carriers thinking of their POP locations and > capabilities as a hush, hush secret instead of a marketing tool. > > I think this would be a great tool to have as a benefit to WISPA membership, > but alas my effort would be self defeating as I'm not a WISPA member > (funds). > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA
Matt, That is what I am doing now, however, I still have customers on Trango that I need to support between now and when they're on MT. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Matt wrote: > > It is a bridge. > > > > I was actually thinking it would be the other wat around - but I guess > not. > > Move to PPPoE with Mikrotik and would be a lot easier. > > http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US07/MUM_CALEA.pdf > > Cannot find 2008 Chicago slide. > > http://www.wispa.org/calea/WCS/WISPA-CS-IPNA-2.0.pdf > > > >>> Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and > support > >>> CALEA? > >> > >> Is the Trango gear a bridge or routed stuff? If bridge, the answer is > >> easy...if it is routed...no so easy. > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA
> It is a bridge. > > I was actually thinking it would be the other wat around - but I guess not. Move to PPPoE with Mikrotik and would be a lot easier. http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US07/MUM_CALEA.pdf Cannot find 2008 Chicago slide. http://www.wispa.org/calea/WCS/WISPA-CS-IPNA-2.0.pdf >>> Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and support >>> CALEA? >> >> Is the Trango gear a bridge or routed stuff? If bridge, the answer is >> easy...if it is routed...no so easy. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
I see no reason to restrict this list to just L3, GLBX, Cogent, etc., but any company willing to sell bandwidth for wholesale use... including each other. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Matt Liotta" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:29 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > Resellers play an important role in the overall ecosystem. However, as > an industry we would be far better off if we bought from each other > than from our competition. I believe that had CLECs worked with each > other as opposed to trying to steal each other customers they might > have made a dent in the ILECs' business. > > -Matt > > On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> I've worked with NI many times (though have never purchased >> anything). They >> are great to work with, but really only resell bandwidth from a few >> carriers >> and that normally comprises of TDM lines (which we as an industry >> need to >> get away from) or services in NFL markets. They would have been of >> little >> help in every case I've helped someone out lately. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Rick Harnish" >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:09 AM >> To: "'WISPA General List'" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >>> We do have a Vendor Member that may be of assistance. Network >>> Innovations >>> out of Chicago is currently our only vendor member who sells >>> bandwidth. >>> Their website can be reached from the WISPA Homepage. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:02 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> >>> I think that list would be incredibly enormous, take a long time to >>> compile, >>> >>> and prone to many mistakes (mostly omissions). >>> >>> I'll start a new thread. >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From: "Brian Webster" >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:56 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mark McElvy" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > ShowMe Power > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- > boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > > If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mark McElvy" > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > >> I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre >> carrier has >> POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap >> bandwidth they >> can transport for me. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org >> ] > On >> Behalf Of David E. Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >> Mark McElvy wrote: >>> I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St >>> Louis or >>> Rolla Missouri. >> >> Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in >> town? >> Saint Louis has a
Re: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list
Well, come to think about it... I could just join monthly for a month or two until I had the funds for an annual membership. If the board would like, I could work my way through my head thinking of companies and seeking out contacts, requesting whatever information Brian needs to make this a reality. The real punch would be doing so on WISPA's behalf instead of my own behalf. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Brian Webster" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:21 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list > I can create a Google Map interface with address lookup capability and > plot > any address lists for POP's and such that people can feed me. This data > needs to not be under an NDA however and the map would have to be on a > public portion of a web site (Maybe the WISPA site). I can host it if > there > are no other takers. The key would be a good address list with contact > information. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:10 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list > > > Brian Webster suggested that we make a list (posted to the WISPA site) of > bandwidth carriers. > > I'd be happy to help on this effort, but I certainly don't have the time > (or > the programming skills) to dedicate to make it what I would like to see. > > I'm thinking as grand as type in a ZIP code and it tells you the nearest > POP > meeting certain characteristics of which could be carrier, technologies > supported (wireless, TDM, Ethernet, etc.), service type (DIA, dark fiber, > PtP transport, MPLS transport, etc.), and others. > > It could be as simple as just a basic list of companies. > > What would you guys like to see? > > I'm thinking that people could contribute their knowledge of what's > available, then someone confirms if that's true or not. > > In comes the problem of carriers thinking of their POP locations and > capabilities as a hush, hush secret instead of a marketing tool. > > I think this would be a great tool to have as a benefit to WISPA > membership, > but alas my effort would be self defeating as I'm not a WISPA member > (funds). > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
Resellers play an important role in the overall ecosystem. However, as an industry we would be far better off if we bought from each other than from our competition. I believe that had CLECs worked with each other as opposed to trying to steal each other customers they might have made a dent in the ILECs' business. -Matt On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I've worked with NI many times (though have never purchased > anything). They > are great to work with, but really only resell bandwidth from a few > carriers > and that normally comprises of TDM lines (which we as an industry > need to > get away from) or services in NFL markets. They would have been of > little > help in every case I've helped someone out lately. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Rick Harnish" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:09 AM > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > >> We do have a Vendor Member that may be of assistance. Network >> Innovations >> out of Chicago is currently our only vendor member who sells >> bandwidth. >> Their website can be reached from the WISPA Homepage. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:02 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >> I think that list would be incredibly enormous, take a long time to >> compile, >> >> and prone to many mistakes (mostly omissions). >> >> I'll start a new thread. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Brian Webster" >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:56 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >>> You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for >>> bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank You, >>> Brian Webster >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>> boun...@wispa.org]on >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> >>> >>> Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? >>> >>> Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri >>> along >>> with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... >>> >>> Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From: "Mark McElvy" >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> ShowMe Power -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mark McElvy" Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre > carrier has > POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap > bandwidth they > can transport for me. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > ] On > Behalf Of David E. Smith > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > > Mark McElvy wrote: >> I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St >> Louis or >> Rolla Missouri. > > Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in > town? > Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 > Walnut and > > 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and > get > basically as much connectivity as you want there. > > David Smith > MVN.net > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list
I can create a Google Map interface with address lookup capability and plot any address lists for POP's and such that people can feed me. This data needs to not be under an NDA however and the map would have to be on a public portion of a web site (Maybe the WISPA site). I can host it if there are no other takers. The key would be a good address list with contact information. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Transit and transport providers list Brian Webster suggested that we make a list (posted to the WISPA site) of bandwidth carriers. I'd be happy to help on this effort, but I certainly don't have the time (or the programming skills) to dedicate to make it what I would like to see. I'm thinking as grand as type in a ZIP code and it tells you the nearest POP meeting certain characteristics of which could be carrier, technologies supported (wireless, TDM, Ethernet, etc.), service type (DIA, dark fiber, PtP transport, MPLS transport, etc.), and others. It could be as simple as just a basic list of companies. What would you guys like to see? I'm thinking that people could contribute their knowledge of what's available, then someone confirms if that's true or not. In comes the problem of carriers thinking of their POP locations and capabilities as a hush, hush secret instead of a marketing tool. I think this would be a great tool to have as a benefit to WISPA membership, but alas my effort would be self defeating as I'm not a WISPA member (funds). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
If someone can feed me data that is not protected by an NDA I would gladly do that. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [mailto:ch...@beehive.net] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:11 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth How about a composite fiber map? - Original Message - From: "Brian Webster" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for > bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > > > Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? > > Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along > with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... > > Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mark McElvy" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > >> ShowMe Power >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >> If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Mark McElvy" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >>> I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has >>> POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they >>> can transport for me. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >>> Behalf Of David E. Smith >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> >>> Mark McElvy wrote: I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or Rolla Missouri. >>> >>> Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? >>> Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut >> and >>> >>> 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get >>> basically as much connectivity as you want there. >>> >>> David Smith >>> MVN.net >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> - - > -- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> - - > -- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > -- -- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- -- > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireles
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
I've worked with NI many times (though have never purchased anything). They are great to work with, but really only resell bandwidth from a few carriers and that normally comprises of TDM lines (which we as an industry need to get away from) or services in NFL markets. They would have been of little help in every case I've helped someone out lately. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Rick Harnish" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:09 AM To: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > We do have a Vendor Member that may be of assistance. Network Innovations > out of Chicago is currently our only vendor member who sells bandwidth. > Their website can be reached from the WISPA Homepage. > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:02 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > > I think that list would be incredibly enormous, take a long time to > compile, > > and prone to many mistakes (mostly omissions). > > I'll start a new thread. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Brian Webster" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:56 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > >> You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for >> bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site. >> >> >> >> Thank You, >> Brian Webster >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >> >> Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? >> >> Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri >> along >> with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... >> >> Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Mark McElvy" >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >>> ShowMe Power >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> >>> If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From: "Mark McElvy" >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they can transport for me. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth Mark McElvy wrote: > I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or > Rolla Missouri. Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut >>> and 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get basically as much connectivity as you want there. David Smith MVN.net >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>
[WISPA] Transit and transport providers list
Brian Webster suggested that we make a list (posted to the WISPA site) of bandwidth carriers. I'd be happy to help on this effort, but I certainly don't have the time (or the programming skills) to dedicate to make it what I would like to see. I'm thinking as grand as type in a ZIP code and it tells you the nearest POP meeting certain characteristics of which could be carrier, technologies supported (wireless, TDM, Ethernet, etc.), service type (DIA, dark fiber, PtP transport, MPLS transport, etc.), and others. It could be as simple as just a basic list of companies. What would you guys like to see? I'm thinking that people could contribute their knowledge of what's available, then someone confirms if that's true or not. In comes the problem of carriers thinking of their POP locations and capabilities as a hush, hush secret instead of a marketing tool. I think this would be a great tool to have as a benefit to WISPA membership, but alas my effort would be self defeating as I'm not a WISPA member (funds). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
How about a composite fiber map? - Original Message - From: "Brian Webster" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for > bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > > > Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? > > Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along > with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... > > Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mark McElvy" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > >> ShowMe Power >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >> If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Mark McElvy" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >>> I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has >>> POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they >>> can transport for me. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >>> Behalf Of David E. Smith >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> >>> Mark McElvy wrote: I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or Rolla Missouri. >>> >>> Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? >>> Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut >> and >>> >>> 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get >>> basically as much connectivity as you want there. >>> >>> David Smith >>> MVN.net >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> -- > -- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -- > -- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
We do have a Vendor Member that may be of assistance. Network Innovations out of Chicago is currently our only vendor member who sells bandwidth. Their website can be reached from the WISPA Homepage. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth I think that list would be incredibly enormous, take a long time to compile, and prone to many mistakes (mostly omissions). I'll start a new thread. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Brian Webster" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:56 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for > bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > > > Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? > > Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along > with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... > > Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mark McElvy" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > >> ShowMe Power >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >> If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Mark McElvy" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >>> I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has >>> POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they >>> can transport for me. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >>> Behalf Of David E. Smith >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> >>> Mark McElvy wrote: I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or Rolla Missouri. >>> >>> Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? >>> Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut >> and >>> >>> 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get >>> basically as much connectivity as you want there. >>> >>> David Smith >>> MVN.net >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> -- > -- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -- > -- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archive
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
I think that list would be incredibly enormous, take a long time to compile, and prone to many mistakes (mostly omissions). I'll start a new thread. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Brian Webster" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:56 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for > bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > > > Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? > > Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along > with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... > > Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mark McElvy" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > >> ShowMe Power >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >> If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Mark McElvy" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >>> I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has >>> POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they >>> can transport for me. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >>> Behalf Of David E. Smith >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >>> >>> Mark McElvy wrote: I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or Rolla Missouri. >>> >>> Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? >>> Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut >> and >>> >>> 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get >>> basically as much connectivity as you want there. >>> >>> David Smith >>> MVN.net >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> -- > -- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -- > -- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mark McElvy" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > ShowMe Power > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > > If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mark McElvy" > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > >> I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has >> POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they >> can transport for me. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On >> Behalf Of David E. Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >> Mark McElvy wrote: >>> I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or >>> Rolla Missouri. >> >> Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? >> Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut > and >> >> 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get >> basically as much connectivity as you want there. >> >> David Smith >> MVN.net >> >> >> > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America? Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered... Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mark McElvy" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > ShowMe Power > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > > If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mark McElvy" > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > >> I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has >> POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they >> can transport for me. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On >> Behalf Of David E. Smith >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth >> >> Mark McElvy wrote: >>> I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or >>> Rolla Missouri. >> >> Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? >> Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut > and >> >> 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get >> basically as much connectivity as you want there. >> >> David Smith >> MVN.net >> >> >> > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] eratic ethernet connection
I have a new WAN connection, it is a Long range Ethernet connection. It is being connected to a RB532 Mikrotik v2.9.46 router. When I do bandwidth tests through this connection, it is very erratic. If I connect the circuit directly to a PC I get a nice smooth throughput. I also tried connecting the circuit to a switch then to the MT with the same result. This occurs on two different routers. I have tried different Ethernet port settings, the LRE adapter is set to 10 Full. Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
ShowMe Power -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mark McElvy" Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has > POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they > can transport for me. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of David E. Smith > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth > > Mark McElvy wrote: >> I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or >> Rolla Missouri. > > Do you need it delivered to your door, or just "somewhere" in town? > Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut and > > 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get > basically as much connectivity as you want there. > > David Smith > MVN.net > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
