Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[Josh Luthman]

I pay around 300 for an AP (faster motherboard and a UBNT card is why)
but 220 for a CPE.  These are MT.

On 12/22/08, Sam Tetherow  wrote:
> I would be willing to pay the extra for the AP (I've a pretty dense CPE
> to AP ratio). The larger number of customers per AP would be worth it
> for me. I have places that I could easily put 120 customer per AP and I
> have 2 towers with more than 200 customer each on them spread across
> Vert and Horizontal 2.4 and 5.8 sectors. Kind of hard to justify the
> upgrade cost now although I'm having to rework some spots moving
> customers to 5.2G because I've run out of usable spectrum.
>
> Sam Tetherow
> Sandhills Wireless
>
>
>
> George Rogato wrote:
>> I agree with you on computability, what good is a wifi network that
>> doesn't talk to anything wifi? Doesn't sound too good to me.
>>
>> The $200.00 cpe isn't as much the attraction as the $200.00 or less AP.
>>
>> That's hard to swallow adding $1k + per ap. I have 100's of ap's. I put
>> them everywhere.
>> It's the only reason I don't go proprietary is the affordable ap.
>>
>> George
>>
>> Sam Tetherow wrote:
>>
>>> Obviously use whatever works best for your environment, but one of the
>>> major reasons I have stayed in the 802.11 environment is BECAUSE I can
>>> use differing vendors. I think that most 802.11 stuff loses it's appeal
>>> when you cannot mix and match equipment. If I was looking to spend
>>> $200+/cpe with a vendor lock in at this stage in the game I would go
>>> with Moto.
>>>
>>> Sam Tetherow
>>> Sandhills Wireless
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[Sam Tetherow]

I would be willing to pay the extra for the AP (I've a pretty dense CPE 
to AP ratio). The larger number of customers per AP would be worth it 
for me. I have places that I could easily put 120 customer per AP and I 
have 2 towers with more than 200 customer each on them spread across 
Vert and Horizontal 2.4 and 5.8 sectors. Kind of hard to justify the 
upgrade cost now although I'm having to rework some spots moving 
customers to 5.2G because I've run out of usable spectrum.

Sam Tetherow
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George Rogato wrote:
> I agree with you on computability, what good is a wifi network that 
> doesn't talk to anything wifi? Doesn't sound too good to me.
>
> The $200.00 cpe isn't as much the attraction as the $200.00 or less AP.
>
> That's hard to swallow adding $1k + per ap. I have 100's of ap's. I put 
> them everywhere.
> It's the only reason I don't go proprietary is the affordable ap.
>
> George
>
> Sam Tetherow wrote:
>   
>> Obviously use whatever works best for your environment, but one of the 
>> major reasons I have stayed in the 802.11 environment is BECAUSE I can 
>> use differing vendors. I think that most 802.11 stuff loses it's appeal 
>> when you cannot mix and match equipment. If I was looking to spend 
>> $200+/cpe with a vendor lock in at this stage in the game I would go 
>> with Moto.
>>
>> Sam Tetherow
>> Sandhills Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[George Rogato]

I agree with you on computability, what good is a wifi network that 
doesn't talk to anything wifi? Doesn't sound too good to me.

The $200.00 cpe isn't as much the attraction as the $200.00 or less AP.

That's hard to swallow adding $1k + per ap. I have 100's of ap's. I put 
them everywhere.
It's the only reason I don't go proprietary is the affordable ap.

George

Sam Tetherow wrote:
> Obviously use whatever works best for your environment, but one of the 
> major reasons I have stayed in the 802.11 environment is BECAUSE I can 
> use differing vendors. I think that most 802.11 stuff loses it's appeal 
> when you cannot mix and match equipment. If I was looking to spend 
> $200+/cpe with a vendor lock in at this stage in the game I would go 
> with Moto.
> 
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[Josh Luthman]

I've also been told that Moto does a great job with their wireless network
gear (as we can all tell they've got their hands in every wireless market).
I have yet to ever run it, though.

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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Sam Tetherow  wrote:

> Obviously use whatever works best for your environment, but one of the
> major reasons I have stayed in the 802.11 environment is BECAUSE I can
> use differing vendors. I think that most 802.11 stuff loses it's appeal
> when you cannot mix and match equipment. If I was looking to spend
> $200+/cpe with a vendor lock in at this stage in the game I would go
> with Moto.
>
> Sam Tetherow
> Sandhills Wireless
>
> George Rogato wrote:
> > Steve Barnes wrote:
> >
> >> Other way around (from what was stated from MT) Tranzeo did not follow
> >> all the 802.11 protocol to the letter.  Mikrotik in 3.15 came up with a
> >> work around. I have 3.16 on 4 towers so far and works great with
> >> Tranzeo. One has 40 Clients and some of them have been up for 45 days
> >> without a reboot.
> >>
> >> My wish is that there was a standard where the Device name in Tranzeo
> >> units would show up as the radio name on MT AP's.  Guess that is what
> >> you get with different vendors.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Thats why I use the same product for my cpe as the ap. I'm star so it's
> > star both ends and it is like pulling teeth to convince me to use
> > something else no matter how much cheaper.
> >
> > If your MT you should seriously consider only MT for your cpe's. Then
> > you know the compatability issue will be rare.
> >
> > George
> >
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[Sam Tetherow]

Obviously use whatever works best for your environment, but one of the 
major reasons I have stayed in the 802.11 environment is BECAUSE I can 
use differing vendors. I think that most 802.11 stuff loses it's appeal 
when you cannot mix and match equipment. If I was looking to spend 
$200+/cpe with a vendor lock in at this stage in the game I would go 
with Moto.

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless

George Rogato wrote:
> Steve Barnes wrote:
>   
>> Other way around (from what was stated from MT) Tranzeo did not follow
>> all the 802.11 protocol to the letter.  Mikrotik in 3.15 came up with a
>> work around. I have 3.16 on 4 towers so far and works great with
>> Tranzeo. One has 40 Clients and some of them have been up for 45 days
>> without a reboot.  
>>
>> My wish is that there was a standard where the Device name in Tranzeo
>> units would show up as the radio name on MT AP's.  Guess that is what
>> you get with different vendors.
>>
>>   
>> 
>
> Thats why I use the same product for my cpe as the ap. I'm star so it's 
> star both ends and it is like pulling teeth to convince me to use 
> something else no matter how much cheaper.
>
> If your MT you should seriously consider only MT for your cpe's. Then 
> you know the compatability issue will be rare.
>
> George
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[Josh Luthman]

I know I could agree with no compatibility problems while using MT at
both ends, however you still run into MT-only problems or limits.

While this isn't directly WISP related, using RouterOD you are limited
to one partition for everything.  With Dude runnig there you (at this
time) can't backup with a 128mb disk/storage device.  I would expect
256MB to work, however I can't vouche.

On 12/22/08, George Rogato  wrote:
> Steve Barnes wrote:
>> Other way around (from what was stated from MT) Tranzeo did not follow
>> all the 802.11 protocol to the letter.  Mikrotik in 3.15 came up with a
>> work around. I have 3.16 on 4 towers so far and works great with
>> Tranzeo. One has 40 Clients and some of them have been up for 45 days
>> without a reboot.
>>
>> My wish is that there was a standard where the Device name in Tranzeo
>> units would show up as the radio name on MT AP's.  Guess that is what
>> you get with different vendors.
>>
>>
>
> Thats why I use the same product for my cpe as the ap. I'm star so it's
> star both ends and it is like pulling teeth to convince me to use
> something else no matter how much cheaper.
>
> If your MT you should seriously consider only MT for your cpe's. Then
> you know the compatability issue will be rare.
>
> George
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[George Rogato]

Steve Barnes wrote:
> Other way around (from what was stated from MT) Tranzeo did not follow
> all the 802.11 protocol to the letter.  Mikrotik in 3.15 came up with a
> work around. I have 3.16 on 4 towers so far and works great with
> Tranzeo. One has 40 Clients and some of them have been up for 45 days
> without a reboot.  
>
> My wish is that there was a standard where the Device name in Tranzeo
> units would show up as the radio name on MT AP's.  Guess that is what
> you get with different vendors.
>
>   

Thats why I use the same product for my cpe as the ap. I'm star so it's 
star both ends and it is like pulling teeth to convince me to use 
something else no matter how much cheaper.

If your MT you should seriously consider only MT for your cpe's. Then 
you know the compatability issue will be rare.

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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[Josh Luthman]

Last year the 56 Marietta building in Atlanta had hell with AC units,
several times.  Times are really tough and these outages sure don't help =(

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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Patrick Shoemaker <
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com> wrote:

> Would that be the same one in NYC that had a "generator explosion"? Took
> down Voicepulse.
>
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> D. Ryan Spott wrote:
> > According to some insider info the DC where the webserver is located
> > (not at Tranzeo) had a power outage.
> >
> > ryan
> >
> > On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:20 AM, John Valenti wrote:
> >
> >> Marlon,
> >>
> >> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their
> >> update.  (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug)   Or is
> >> there some other problem?
> >>
> >> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now.
> >>
> >> And Merry Christmas to you, too!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> >>
> >>> Glad it's not just me!  grin
> >>>
> >>> Nothing particular right now.  I was just checking for any new
> >>> versions.
> >>>
> >>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem.
> >>> Not the
> >>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo.
> >>>
> >>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that
> >>> doesn't lock
> >>> up!
> >>>
> >>> Merry Christmas all!
> >>> marlon
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[Patrick Shoemaker]

Would that be the same one in NYC that had a "generator explosion"? Took 
down Voicepulse.

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D. Ryan Spott wrote:
> According to some insider info the DC where the webserver is located  
> (not at Tranzeo) had a power outage.
> 
> ryan
> 
> On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:20 AM, John Valenti wrote:
> 
>> Marlon,
>>
>> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their
>> update.  (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug)   Or is
>> there some other problem?
>>
>> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now.
>>
>> And Merry Christmas to you, too!
>>
>>
>> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>
>>> Glad it's not just me!  grin
>>>
>>> Nothing particular right now.  I was just checking for any new
>>> versions.
>>>
>>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem.
>>> Not the
>>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo.
>>>
>>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that
>>> doesn't lock
>>> up!
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas all!
>>> marlon
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[eje]

That is what ups's and generators are for. 
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:53:55 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?


According to some insider info the DC where the webserver is located  
(not at Tranzeo) had a power outage.

ryan

On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:20 AM, John Valenti wrote:

> Marlon,
>
> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their
> update.  (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug)   Or is
> there some other problem?
>
> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now.
>
> And Merry Christmas to you, too!
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>
>> Glad it's not just me!  grin
>>
>> Nothing particular right now.  I was just checking for any new
>> versions.
>>
>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem.
>> Not the
>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo.
>>
>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that
>> doesn't lock
>> up!
>>
>> Merry Christmas all!
>> marlon
>
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I have some stuff I want to sell and didn't know if there was a
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[D. Ryan Spott]

According to some insider info the DC where the webserver is located  
(not at Tranzeo) had a power outage.

ryan

On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:20 AM, John Valenti wrote:

> Marlon,
>
> I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their
> update.  (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug)   Or is
> there some other problem?
>
> Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now.
>
> And Merry Christmas to you, too!
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>
>> Glad it's not just me!  grin
>>
>> Nothing particular right now.  I was just checking for any new
>> versions.
>>
>> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem.
>> Not the
>> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo.
>>
>> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that
>> doesn't lock
>> up!
>>
>> Merry Christmas all!
>> marlon
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

[Steve Barnes]

I thought that was the case as well.  Wont an ISP get in trouble for not
allowing P2P (FCC vs. Comcast). So we are Supposed to be concerned when
Johnny Smith is Sharing his personal files but not when Netflix is
eating my bandwidth.

(I do limit P2P upload but not stop it)

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Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:39 PM
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You know, I thought ISP's had common carrier status and therefore were
not responsible the actions of their customers.


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Sent: Mon Dec 22 10:45:26 2008
Subject: Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

"Jerry Scroggin wants the music and film industries to know that he's
not a cop and he doesn't work for free."


Go Jerry! Go Jerry!

Fight! Fight! Fight!
 
 
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airCloud Communications

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

Yes, they should open every box and use software that is only compatible
with Windows NT4 testing every media capable of holding more then 1KB
(1024bytes).

No equipment will be provided by RIAA, however a $99/mo inconvenience
fee may apply if a) the moon is in waxing gibbous b) your initials
include A and Z and c) you sit on hold for no less then three (3) hours
when requesting this.

Point being - this is simply ridiculous.  It is not the ISPs job to
monitor the customer's actions, it is not the road's fault for the
driver's car accident and it is not FedEx's job to check every single
package for contents that another company doesn't like, especially
without serious compensation for the increased overhead.



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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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> We could make the analogy that bootleg CDs could be hauled by FedEx.
> Shall FedEx halt deliveries in this case?
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[WISPA] Service in St. Lucie County (Florida ZIP: 34987)

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Hello,
Anyone able to provide service in 
St. Lucie County (ZIP: 34987)

Please contact me off list.

Thank you & Happy Holidays. 


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Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

[Milton Calnek]

You know, I thought ISP's had common carrier status and therefore were not 
responsible the actions of their customers.


- Original Message -
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Mon Dec 22 10:45:26 2008
Subject: Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

"Jerry Scroggin wants the music and film industries to know that he's
not a cop and he doesn't work for free."


Go Jerry! Go Jerry!

Fight! Fight! Fight!
 
 
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

Yes, they should open every box and use software that is only compatible
with Windows NT4 testing every media capable of holding more then 1KB
(1024bytes).

No equipment will be provided by RIAA, however a $99/mo inconvenience
fee may apply if a) the moon is in waxing gibbous b) your initials
include A and Z and c) you sit on hold for no less then three (3) hours
when requesting this.

Point being - this is simply ridiculous.  It is not the ISPs job to
monitor the customer's actions, it is not the road's fault for the
driver's car accident and it is not FedEx's job to check every single
package for contents that another company doesn't like, especially
without serious compensation for the increased overhead.



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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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--- Henry Spencer


On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown 
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> We could make the analogy that bootleg CDs could be hauled by FedEx.
> Shall FedEx halt deliveries in this case?
>
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> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:40 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[Steve Barnes]

Other way around (from what was stated from MT) Tranzeo did not follow
all the 802.11 protocol to the letter.  Mikrotik in 3.15 came up with a
work around. I have 3.16 on 4 towers so far and works great with
Tranzeo. One has 40 Clients and some of them have been up for 45 days
without a reboot.  

My wish is that there was a standard where the Device name in Tranzeo
units would show up as the radio name on MT AP's.  Guess that is what
you get with different vendors.

support.tranzeo.com is back up now.

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of John Valenti
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

Marlon,

I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their  
update.  (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug)   Or is  
there some other problem?

Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now.

And Merry Christmas to you, too!


On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

> Glad it's not just me!  grin
>
> Nothing particular right now.  I was just checking for any new  
> versions.
>
> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem.   
> Not the
> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo.
>
> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that  
> doesn't lock
> up!
>
> Merry Christmas all!
> marlon





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Re: [WISPA] RIP

[Sam Tetherow]

If I knew it would fix it I might, but I have no desire to pay for 
upgrades on otherwise working APs when no-one has said it would work 
fine in 2.9 on my RB230s. 3.x right now is not an upgrade path I am 
willing to take because it breaks my current provisioning scheme and I 
have not had the time or good enough reason to rework my entire 
provisioning system. As it stands right now I'll just static route it all.

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless

Butch Evans wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 13:57 -0600, Sam Tetherow wrote:
>   
>> Speaking of OSPF, I've tried running it several times and sections of my 
>> network seem to disappear from time to time. Mostly notably old RB230s 
>> running MT 2.8. Anyone have any suggestionns?
>> 
>
> 
>
> Upgrade?  
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Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

[reader]

wow, when's someone going to tell the FCC that?







- Original Message - 
From: "Jerry Richardson" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection


> "Jerry Scroggin wants the music and film industries to know that he's
> not a cop and he doesn't work for free."
>
>
> Go Jerry! Go Jerry!
>
> Fight! Fight! Fight!
>
>
> __
> Jerry Richardson
> airCloud Communications
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:55 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection
>
> Yes, they should open every box and use software that is only compatible
> with Windows NT4 testing every media capable of holding more then 1KB
> (1024bytes).
>
> No equipment will be provided by RIAA, however a $99/mo inconvenience
> fee may apply if a) the moon is in waxing gibbous b) your initials
> include A and Z and c) you sit on hold for no less then three (3) hours
> when requesting this.
>
> Point being - this is simply ridiculous.  It is not the ISPs job to
> monitor the customer's actions, it is not the road's fault for the
> driver's car accident and it is not FedEx's job to check every single
> package for contents that another company doesn't like, especially
> without serious compensation for the increased overhead.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> --- Henry Spencer
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown 
> wrote:
>
>> We could make the analogy that bootleg CDs could be hauled by FedEx.
>> Shall FedEx halt deliveries in this case?
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Cliff LeBoeuf" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:40 AM
>> Subject: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection
>>
>>
>> >
>> > http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10127841-93.html
>> >
>> >
>> > Cliff LeBoeuf
>> > 985-879-3219
>> > www.cssla.com
>> > www.triparish.net
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[John Valenti]

Marlon,

I thought the Tranzeo/MT problem was a Mikrotik issue, fixed by their  
update.  (Tranzeo did a work-around, but it wasn't their bug)   Or is  
there some other problem?

Oh, www.tranzeo.com is working for me, now.

And Merry Christmas to you, too!


On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

> Glad it's not just me!  grin
>
> Nothing particular right now.  I was just checking for any new  
> versions.
>
> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem.   
> Not the
> MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo.
>
> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that  
> doesn't lock
> up!
>
> Merry Christmas all!
> marlon




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Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

[Jerry Richardson]

"Jerry Scroggin wants the music and film industries to know that he's
not a cop and he doesn't work for free."


Go Jerry! Go Jerry!

Fight! Fight! Fight!
 
 
__ 
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airCloud Communications

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

Yes, they should open every box and use software that is only compatible
with Windows NT4 testing every media capable of holding more then 1KB
(1024bytes).

No equipment will be provided by RIAA, however a $99/mo inconvenience
fee may apply if a) the moon is in waxing gibbous b) your initials
include A and Z and c) you sit on hold for no less then three (3) hours
when requesting this.

Point being - this is simply ridiculous.  It is not the ISPs job to
monitor the customer's actions, it is not the road's fault for the
driver's car accident and it is not FedEx's job to check every single
package for contents that another company doesn't like, especially
without serious compensation for the increased overhead.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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--- Henry Spencer


On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown 
wrote:

> We could make the analogy that bootleg CDs could be hauled by FedEx.
> Shall FedEx halt deliveries in this case?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cliff LeBoeuf" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:40 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection
>
>
> >
> > http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10127841-93.html
> >
> >
> > Cliff LeBoeuf
> > 985-879-3219
> > www.cssla.com
> > www.triparish.net
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Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

[jp]

If ISPs were able to be compensated for the research and follow up for 
RIAA requests, it would make the whole system completely financially 
infeasible for RIAA. The reason it sort of works now is because it's 
cheap and easy, despite being only partially effective, same reason spam 
works. That's the reason it's not happening I think.

I'd take money from RIAA to certify that my company has researched who 
was using that IP and relayed the warning to the end user paying for the 
Internet service. I would not reveal customer information to the RIAA, 
and wouldn't cancel service for the customer solely because the RIAA 
asked me to.

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:54:52AM -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Yes, they should open every box and use software that is only compatible
> with Windows NT4 testing every media capable of holding more then 1KB
> (1024bytes).
> 
> No equipment will be provided by RIAA, however a $99/mo inconvenience fee
> may apply if a) the moon is in waxing gibbous b) your initials include A and
> Z and c) you sit on hold for no less then three (3) hours when requesting
> this.
> 
> Point being - this is simply ridiculous.  It is not the ISPs job to monitor
> the customer's actions, it is not the road's fault for the driver's car
> accident and it is not FedEx's job to check every single package for
> contents that another company doesn't like, especially without serious
> compensation for the increased overhead.
> 
> I love this opening line as it shows at least one person isn't afraid to put
> their foot down!  "Jerry Scroggin, owner-operator of Bayou Internet and
> Communications , wants the music and film industries
> to know that he's not a cop and he doesn't work for free."
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> --- Henry Spencer
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> > We could make the analogy that bootleg CDs could be hauled by FedEx.
> > Shall FedEx halt deliveries in this case?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Cliff LeBoeuf" 
> > To: "WISPA General List" 
> > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:40 AM
> > Subject: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection
> >
> >
> > >
> > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10127841-93.html
> > >
> > >
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Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

[Josh Luthman]

Yes, they should open every box and use software that is only compatible
with Windows NT4 testing every media capable of holding more then 1KB
(1024bytes).

No equipment will be provided by RIAA, however a $99/mo inconvenience fee
may apply if a) the moon is in waxing gibbous b) your initials include A and
Z and c) you sit on hold for no less then three (3) hours when requesting
this.

Point being - this is simply ridiculous.  It is not the ISPs job to monitor
the customer's actions, it is not the road's fault for the driver's car
accident and it is not FedEx's job to check every single package for
contents that another company doesn't like, especially without serious
compensation for the increased overhead.

I love this opening line as it shows at least one person isn't afraid to put
their foot down!  "Jerry Scroggin, owner-operator of Bayou Internet and
Communications , wants the music and film industries
to know that he's not a cop and he doesn't work for free."

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> We could make the analogy that bootleg CDs could be hauled by FedEx.
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Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

[Chuck McCown]

We could make the analogy that bootleg CDs could be hauled by FedEx.
Shall FedEx halt deliveries in this case?

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Re: [WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

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Don't forget, they have to attack the educational system!

http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/index.php?id=3532&utm_source=wc&utm_medium=en

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[WISPA] One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection

[Cliff LeBoeuf]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10127841-93.html


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[WISPA] Kernmantle Rope

[Scott Vander Dussen]

Looking for 1200' of kernmantle rope.  I found a spool here (sorry for the long 
URL, TinyURL doesn't work for this link) -

https://www.nettechdi.com/eserv/eclipse.ecl?PROCID=WEBDISP.WOEB.MAIN&ID~1=107&ID~2=864&ID~3=865&CLEV=5&PLEV=1&QLEV=1&PN=12764&ITEM.NO=8&PN.CT=21&TRACKNO=J2537830143&BANNERID=

Price seems reasonable at $680/1200' thought I'd ask if anyone has a better 
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Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

[Jason Hensley]

Wow.  Their site is still down today!!  At least for me it is.  I'm glad I
have very few Tranzeo left in the field.   


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Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?

I just want them to make a reset button! -RickG

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Marlon K. Schafer 
wrote:
> Glad it's not just me!  grin
>
> Nothing particular right now.  I was just checking for any new versions.
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> Well, I guess I would sure like a fix for the Tranzeo/MT problem.  Not 
> the MT patch, but a proper fix from Tranzeo.
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> And for Christmas I want a firmware for the Tranzeo AP's that doesn't 
> lock up!
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> Merry Christmas all!
> marlon
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo's web site?
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>> What firmware do you need.. I might have a copy for you.
>>
>> ryan
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>>> I can't seem to get there.  www.tranzeo.com
>>>
>>> Says:
>>> Most likely causes:
>>>  a.. The website is under maintenance.
>>>  b.. The website has a programming error.
>>> Anyone else able to get there and find new firmware etc?
>>>
>>> It's been dead for me for 2 days now.
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>>> marlon
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Re: [WISPA] Corinex BPL

[Alan Long]

I am interested in feeback on this product as well...


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Has anyone deployed Corinex's BPL solution in a MDU setting?  Any
experiences good/bad you care to share?

 

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[WISPA] Corinex BPL

[chris cooper]

Has anyone deployed Corinex's BPL solution in a MDU setting?  Any
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