Re: [WISPA] Hey Marlon it's Marlon

2009-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi Guys,

Amazingly, there is another Marlon in the wireless biz!  Anyone able to help 
him out?

Thanks,
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Wood, Marlon 
  To: o...@odessaoffice.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:41 AM
  Subject: Hey Marlon it's Marlon


  Marlon,

  Good meeting you at the Hutton Expo.

  Did you say you might know a WISP around the Vancouver WA / N. Portland area? 
 I'm looking for a backup circuit into a couple of our sites.

  thanks,

  Marlon

  

  Marlon Wood
  Network Design Specialist  Kinder Morgan 
Telecommunications
  370 Van Gordon St.
  Lakewood, CO 80228
  United States of America  
  marlon_w...@kindermorgan.com
  IM: marwood0 (yahoo)  tel: 
fax: 
mobile:  +1 (303) 763-3548 (63548) 
+1 (303) 763-2920 (62920)
+1 (303) 229-9081   
 
   
  
   
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Re: [WISPA] Hey Marlon it's Marlon

2009-02-20 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Marlon Williamson works for Boonlink in Fort Payne, AL, so that makes at
least 3!  :-) 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:50 AM
To: Wood, Marlon
Cc: WISPA General List; isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hey Marlon it's Marlon

Hi Guys,

Amazingly, there is another Marlon in the wireless biz!  Anyone able to help
him out?

Thanks,
marlon

  - Original Message -
  From: Wood, Marlon
  To: o...@odessaoffice.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:41 AM
  Subject: Hey Marlon it's Marlon


  Marlon,

  Good meeting you at the Hutton Expo.

  Did you say you might know a WISP around the Vancouver WA / N. Portland
area?  I'm looking for a backup circuit into a couple of our sites.

  thanks,

  Marlon

  

  Marlon Wood
  Network Design Specialist  Kinder Morgan
Telecommunications
  370 Van Gordon St.
  Lakewood, CO 80228
  United States of America  
  marlon_w...@kindermorgan.com
  IM: marwood0 (yahoo)  tel: 
fax: 
mobile:  +1 (303) 763-3548 (63548) 
+1 (303) 763-2920 (62920)
+1 (303) 229-9081   
 
   
  
   
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Re: [WISPA] Hey Marlon it's Marlon

2009-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yikes!
hehehehe
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hey Marlon it's Marlon


 Marlon Williamson works for Boonlink in Fort Payne, AL, so that makes at
 least 3!  :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:50 AM
 To: Wood, Marlon
 Cc: WISPA General List; isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hey Marlon it's Marlon

 Hi Guys,

 Amazingly, there is another Marlon in the wireless biz!  Anyone able to 
 help
 him out?

 Thanks,
 marlon

  - Original Message -
  From: Wood, Marlon
  To: o...@odessaoffice.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:41 AM
  Subject: Hey Marlon it's Marlon


  Marlon,

  Good meeting you at the Hutton Expo.

  Did you say you might know a WISP around the Vancouver WA / N. Portland
 area?  I'm looking for a backup circuit into a couple of our sites.

  thanks,

  Marlon



  Marlon Wood
  Network Design Specialist  Kinder Morgan
 Telecommunications
  370 Van Gordon St.
  Lakewood, CO 80228
  United States of America
  marlon_w...@kindermorgan.com
  IM: marwood0 (yahoo)  tel:
fax:
mobile:  +1 (303) 763-3548 (63548)
+1 (303) 763-2920 (62920)
+1 (303) 229-9081




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[WISPA] If you want to understand more about the national broadband debate, read this

2009-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
http://wikileaks.org/leak/crs/RL30719.txt

Have fun!
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Re: [WISPA] [isp-wireless] National WISP Mapping Initiative

2009-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Come on guys!  How many of you have significant amounts of cash laying 
around?

Say we come up with a paltry $1million project (that's the number I came up 
with for coverage of nearly my whole county).  Do you have $200k in matching 
funds laying around?

Heck, if I've had 2 nickels to rub together I used them to build more 
infrastructure already.

Seriously, what are folks gonna do?
marlon

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To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [isp-wireless] National WISP Mapping Initiative


I think this is exactly my original point...

 Daniel Mullen wrote:

 Now seriously -

 Imagine - pay just 20 cents on the dollar and do just about anything you 
 want - even tools and training can be covered!


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[WISPA] Proposed data retention laws targeting ISPs, home WiFi users

2009-02-20 Thread Drew Lentz

From another list, but nevertheless very relevant...

-d

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10168114-38.html
 Republican politicians on Thursday called for a sweeping new federal
 law that would require all Internet providers and operators of
 millions of WiFi access points, even hotels, local coffeeshops, and
 home users, to keep records about users for two years to aid police
 investigations... Translated, the Internet SAFETY Act applies not
 just to ATT, Comcast, Verizon, and so on -- but also to the tens of
 millions of homes with WiFi access points that use the standard
 method of dynamically assigning temporary addresses.

 The relevant bills:
 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00436:
 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h.r.01076:

 It's unclear why Sen. Cornyn and Rep. Smith want to target home WiFi
 users (plus companies, universities, schools, libraries). Smith has
 been at this data retention thing for over two years now, so he's
 had time to get it exactly right:
 http://news.cnet.com/2100-1028_3-6156948.html

 Before Democrats start bemoaning how censorial the Republicans are,
 let's remember affection for data retention laws is a bipartisan
 sentiment. The first politician in the U.S. Congress to draft such
 legislation was a Democrat (Diana DeGette).

 And the current attorney general, Eric Holder, said this when he was
 previously at DOJ: Certain data must be retained by ISPs for
 reasonable periods of time so that it can be accessible to law
 enforcement. (http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/dagceos.html)






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[WISPA] from AGL

2009-02-20 Thread Blake Bowers
Swirl of Mini-tornado Takes Internet Tower for a Spin
The structure might have been designed to withstand 125 mph winds, but all 
it took was a 70 mph gust to knock down a 100-foot freestanding Internet 
tower in Denton, Texas.

It wasn't just the wind. It was like a mini-tornado, said tower owner 
Robert Stock. Our security cameras caught the tower blowing over and then 
to the west 20 feet and then to the east about 30 feet. It was bent back and 
forth while part of it lay on the ground.

The storm, which bent the tower halfway up, blew through in the wee hours of 
a Monday morning, and Stock brought in a crane to lower the top section to 
the ground for repairs. The tower weathered the storm pretty well. Only four 
of the 12 sections had to be replaced. The antennas were smashed. New 
antenna parts, including the Internet antenna, were found locally, shipped 
and attached on Tuesday. The tower was back on the air by Wednesday. The 
only thing that slowed him down was not being able to order the new parts 
over the Internet.

The timing of the storm could not have been more inauspicious. Only one day 
before, the tower had received an overhaul to reduce interference. The new 
equipment lasted only 24 hours. Stock says the second replacement is more 
powerful and his signal is stronger than ever. The tower serves seven 
businesses in Greenbelt Business Park and a dozen more in the area.

Not sure why anyone would reuse wind damaged tower, but
12 sections to make a 100 foot tower is confusing also.


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Re: [WISPA] Proposed data retention laws targeting ISPs, home WiFi users

2009-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Where in the constitution does the authority for this exist?

What a rats nest.

sigh
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:18 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Proposed data retention laws targeting ISPs, home WiFi 
users



From another list, but nevertheless very relevant...

 -d

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10168114-38.html
 Republican politicians on Thursday called for a sweeping new federal
 law that would require all Internet providers and operators of
 millions of WiFi access points, even hotels, local coffeeshops, and
 home users, to keep records about users for two years to aid police
 investigations... Translated, the Internet SAFETY Act applies not
 just to ATT, Comcast, Verizon, and so on -- but also to the tens of
 millions of homes with WiFi access points that use the standard
 method of dynamically assigning temporary addresses.

 The relevant bills:
 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00436:
 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h.r.01076:

 It's unclear why Sen. Cornyn and Rep. Smith want to target home WiFi
 users (plus companies, universities, schools, libraries). Smith has
 been at this data retention thing for over two years now, so he's
 had time to get it exactly right:
 http://news.cnet.com/2100-1028_3-6156948.html

 Before Democrats start bemoaning how censorial the Republicans are,
 let's remember affection for data retention laws is a bipartisan
 sentiment. The first politician in the U.S. Congress to draft such
 legislation was a Democrat (Diana DeGette).

 And the current attorney general, Eric Holder, said this when he was
 previously at DOJ: Certain data must be retained by ISPs for
 reasonable periods of time so that it can be accessible to law
 enforcement. (http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/dagceos.html)





 
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Re: [WISPA] Proposed data retention laws targeting ISPs, home WiFi users

2009-02-20 Thread Jack Unger




Thanks for your post. 

The party that is in control of the White House guides and directs the
"security" policies for the nation through the Department of Justice
and the sixteen or so governmental agencies that deal with national
"security". 

Although many Democratic elected officials refused over the last eight
years to oppose the Republican drive to consolidate political control
over the citizenry of our country, including control of the Internet
which is the last bastion of effective democratic (small "d") political
_expression_, it was primarily the Republican party that has (and still
is) attacking the rights of Americans to freely communicate and to
organize via the Internet. 

Yes, the Internet is still under attack. Yes, the Internet must be
defended. Who can attack our rights to use the Internet? The political
party that controls the White House - if it so chooses. The Military -
if directed to do so by the political party that controls the White
House. The large communications companies - to drive out the smaller
communications companies and to consolidate their control over the
operation of the Internet. The sixteen (or so) governmental agencies
that are supposed to be taking their orders from the White House. The
political party that controls Congress - by pushing legislation that
restricts access to and use of the Internet. 

Now that the Republican Party does NOT control the White House and does
NOT control Congress, I predict that Republican attempts to control the
Internet will fail. It is still necessary to keep a vigilant watch on
new legislation. The U.S. Government "security" bureaucracy still
employs hundreds of thousands of people and without input from you and
me and thousands of other ordinary citizens, this "security"
bureaucracy will continue to find new ways to justify it's existence.
Controlling the Internet is still on their agenda only this time THEY
CAN BE CONTROLLED by the White House if we, the citizens speak up and
tell the Democratic Party to keep Government's hands off the Internet.
If we ordinary citizens refuse to act then we will lose our ability to
use the Internet freely. Then we will no longer be living in a
democracy, we will be living in a dictatorship.

jack



Drew Lentz wrote:

  From another list, but nevertheless very relevant...

-d

  
  
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10168114-38.html
Republican politicians on Thursday called for a sweeping new federal
law that would require all Internet providers and operators of
millions of WiFi access points, even hotels, local coffeeshops, and
home users, to keep records about users for two years to aid police
investigations... Translated, the Internet SAFETY Act applies not
just to ATT, Comcast, Verizon, and so on -- but also to the tens of
millions of homes with WiFi access points that use the standard
method of dynamically assigning temporary addresses.

The relevant bills:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00436:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h.r.01076:

It's unclear why Sen. Cornyn and Rep. Smith want to target home WiFi
users (plus companies, universities, schools, libraries). Smith has
been at this data retention thing for over two years now, so he's
had time to get it exactly right:
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1028_3-6156948.html

Before Democrats start bemoaning how censorial the Republicans are,
let's remember affection for data retention laws is a bipartisan
sentiment. The first politician in the U.S. Congress to draft such
legislation was a Democrat (Diana DeGette).

And the current attorney general, Eric Holder, said this when he was
previously at DOJ: "Certain data must be retained by ISPs for
reasonable periods of time so that it can be accessible to law
enforcement." (http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/dagceos.html)


  
  




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[WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector

2009-02-20 Thread Jason Hensley
Anyone have any experience with the SuperPass line, either the SPHSG2T or
SPHSG4T ?  Other better recommendations for similar price?

Thanks!




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Re: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector

2009-02-20 Thread Cameron Kilton
Funny you should ask, I just replaced a Superpass antenna this morning
because we had another fail. I have been happy with the 2.4ghz H-Pol Pac
Wireless antennas. 

-Cameron

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Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:36 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector

Anyone have any experience with the SuperPass line, either the SPHSG2T
or
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Re: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector

2009-02-20 Thread Jason Hensley
How many do you have and out of that how many have failed?   

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Behalf Of Cameron Kilton
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector

Funny you should ask, I just replaced a Superpass antenna this morning
because we had another fail. I have been happy with the 2.4ghz H-Pol Pac
Wireless antennas. 

-Cameron

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Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:36 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector

Anyone have any experience with the SuperPass line, either the SPHSG2T or
SPHSG4T ?  Other better recommendations for similar price?

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Re: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector

2009-02-20 Thread Cameron Kilton
We have had about 10. Of which I have had 4 or 5 fail or get water
damaged through the case. 

However, I have not had a problem with the 900mhz onces, just the 2.5
and 5.8 ones.

-Cameron

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Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:03 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector

How many do you have and out of that how many have failed?   

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Cameron Kilton
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector

Funny you should ask, I just replaced a Superpass antenna this morning
because we had another fail. I have been happy with the 2.4ghz H-Pol Pac
Wireless antennas. 

-Cameron

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:36 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector

Anyone have any experience with the SuperPass line, either the SPHSG2T
or
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Thanks!





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Re: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector

2009-02-20 Thread Wallace Walcher
We have deployed many of the SPHSG2T's, with good results.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Jason Hensley jhens...@mozarks.com wrote:

 Anyone have any experience with the SuperPass line, either the SPHSG2T or
 SPHSG4T ?  Other better recommendations for similar price?

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[WISPA] Alvarion VL products

2009-02-20 Thread Cameron Kilton
Am I the only one who wishes they had GPS timing available for Alvarion
VL. 



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Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread

2009-02-20 Thread Kevin Neal
We have RBS setup, the product as a whole is unrefined and cumbersome, but
they do have some nice features.  I haven't experimented with any other
software, so I don't know what else is out there.

Their BitBackup requires local storage of a database, so if you're backing
up 50G of data for a customer, they better have an extra 50G of hard drive
space for the local copy.  We've just gone to selling them an external USB
drive when they signup.  As well as doing the initial dump to an external
drive then copy it direct to the server when we get back to the office.

-Kevin Neal
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another online backup thread

IMO stay as far away from remote-backup.com's product as possible. We bought
into their front and it turned out to be a very unrefined product that was
cumbersome to install on the customer side and their support was practically
non-existent. I've heard of other people having success with RBS but we
dropped it and wrote off our losses after much frustration.

Dylan

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Another online backup thread

I'm looking at remote-backup.com.  It seems to be what I'm looking for, but
I'd like to know what other, similar options are out there.

It must not be cumbersome for either myself or the client.
It must have encryption at all levels (transport and storage).
It must have sold online backup in mind, not an enterprise backup program.
It must work on Windows clients, hopefully Linux clients too.


-
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Re: [WISPA] Custom Rackmount Enclosures?

2009-02-20 Thread Kevin Neal
You can try XCEL Outsourcing (http://xceloutsourcing.com/).  They are more
into doing appliance type setups but they do make custom enclosures for
customers.

-Kevin


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Subject: [WISPA] Custom Rackmount Enclosures?

Anyone know of a metal fab to make some custom 1u enclosures for Mikrotik
Routerboards?
 

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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL products

2009-02-20 Thread can...@believewireless.net
No, you aren't the only one.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
 Am I the only one who wishes they had GPS timing available for Alvarion
 VL.



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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL products

2009-02-20 Thread John Scrivner
We are sync'd in our thinking.   :-)
Scriv


On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
 Am I the only one who wishes they had GPS timing available for Alvarion
 VL.



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Re: [WISPA] Data retention and right to privacy - etc..

2009-02-20 Thread Don Grossman
poking stick in fire

Hey, now that the government is pumping $7.2B into a critical US  
infrastructure, wouldn't it make sense for some reasonable network  
management to take place to protect that investment?  This way low  
and middle income families will have access to equal and unbiased  
information without risk.

Doesn't this sound nice?



On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

 Now that's some very scary stuff!

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 - Original Message -
 From: David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:10 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Data retention and right to privacy - etc..


 FYI

 From SANS NewsBites Vol.11 Num.13


 --UK Plans to Consolidate Communication Data Retention
 (February 13  16, 2009)
 Rather than requiring every service provider in the UK to keep its  
 own
 user communication information to comply with European data retention
 rules, the UK government plans to use BT and other high tier  
 providers
 to retain the data.  The move comes as a result of the government's
 decision not to bear the burden of paying for each individual  
 provider's
 compliant data retention system.  UK draft laws require retention  
 of IP
 address and session data for 12 months.  The data retention scheme is
 expected to cost taxpayers about GBP 46 million (US $65.7 million).
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/16/eu_data_retention_transposition/
 http://www.vnunet.com/computing/news/2236479/retaining-communications-cost


 Another newsbite

 --Canadian Judge Rules Internet Users Have No Reasonable Expectation
 of Privacy
 (February 13, 2009)
 A judge in Canada has ruled that Internet users have no reasonable
 expectation of privacy regarding records kept by their Internet  
 service
 providers (ISPs).  The ruling was made in the course of a child
 pornography case in which law enforcement officers asked an ISP to
 provide subscriber information for an IP address that was allegedly  
 used
 to access the content.  Bell Canada provided the information  
 without a
 warrant.  Most Canadian ISPs require warrants before they will  
 provide
 subscriber names, except in the case of child pornography.  Privacy
 advocates are concerned the ruling could set a precedent that would  
 put
 individuals' entire surfing history at the disposal of law  
 enforcement
 authorities without the need for warrants.  They maintain the judge
 operated under the faulty assumption that the information obtained  
 from
 the ISP is similar to what could be found in a telephone directory.
 http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1283120
 http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Police+have+access+your+online+history/1286193/story.html

 [Editor's Note (Northcutt): The ever dwindling right to privacy. Keep
 in mind that ISPs want to collect information on user's surfing etc.,
 so they can sell that data to marketing firms. Be sure to check out  
 the
 related FTC story elsewhere in this issue.
 (Hoelzer): This topic will become more and more interesting legally
 since in many jurisdictions governments are requiring that certain
 records be kept; while the intent is good the potential for abuse  
 toward
 individuals unfriendly to a particular political point of view could
 result in the end.  For example, consider the story out of the UK  
 this
 week moving to consolidate this type of data into top tier  
 providers for
 easier access and monitoring by government.]



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Re: [WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?

2009-02-20 Thread Don Grossman
That should be must not have paid federal taxes yet.  This money has  
not been collected.  It will be in the future..



On Feb 18, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 You must not pay federal taxes them.

 rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:

 No, it's NOT my money.




 
 insert witty tagline here

 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?



 But it's your money?  You pay taxes right?  How can you feel wrong  
 about
 getting back what they took from you?

 Brian

 rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
 Not me.  If it's wrong, it's wrong.   I'm not going to say it  
 should not
 be
 done and then go after the money for myself.   I'd have to hide  
 my face
 forever.Money comes and goes.   Conscience is forever.


 
 insert witty tagline here

 - Original Message -
 From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?


  Me?  I'm gonna go for as much grant money as I can get.  What  
 else can we
 do?

 marlon

Well, whatcha gonna do?




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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL products

2009-02-20 Thread Brian Webster
or sunk ;-)



Thank You,
Brian Webster

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL products


We are sync'd in our thinking.   :-)
Scriv


On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
 Am I the only one who wishes they had GPS timing available for Alvarion
 VL.



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[WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know what you think.

2009-02-20 Thread Pat O'Connor
We're looking to deploy 3.65GHz this year in a couple of different 
locations because of interference issues.  So far they have the most 
compelling price point.  I'd like to know how well it works in the 
field.  All opinions appreciated.  Hit me off list if you want to.\

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: Doodle Labs introduces industry's highest performanceIEEE 802.11a/b/g radio modules

2009-02-20 Thread Mike Hammett
Who sells these?


-
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From: lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:42 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Doodle Labs introduces industry's highest 
performanceIEEE 802.11a/b/g radio modules

 Fyi
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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 From: Doodle Labs LLP donotre...@doodle-labs.com

 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:31:20
 To: lakel...@gbcx.net
 Subject: Doodle Labs introduces industry's highest performance IEEE 
 802.11a/b/g radio modules


 [http://www.doodle-labs.com/]

 PRESS RELEASE

 Doodle Labs, a leader in ruggedized, industrial wireless networking 
 products, today announced the availability of the carrier-class IEEE 
 802.11 a/b/g wireless mini-PCI radio modules. These modules are the first 
 ever 1000mW radios that support extended frequency ranges of 4.8 – 6.0 
 GHz (DLM105) and 2.3 GHz to 2.7 GHz (DLM106), programmable 5/10/20/40 MHz 
 channel width for the operation in the licensed/unlicensed bands (e.g. 
 WiFi, WiMax, Home Land Security, ISM bands).

 In addition to the highest-power and extended frequency ranges, the radio 
 modules also feature industry best receiver sensitivity, linear output 
 power amplifiers in balanced mode to deliver high power at lowest EVM 
 (Error Vector Magnitude), advanced filtering for improved noise immunity 
 as part of their industry-leading performance offering. The mini-PCI 
 modules are based on the Atheros 6th generation 802.11a/b/g AR5414A 
 chipset and include advanced features such as Adaptive Noise Immunity, 
 QoS, and latest IEEE 802.11i security standards.

 The design of the DLM105 and DLM106 mini-PCI radio modules feature dual 
 MMCX antenna connectors for flexibility in system design with diversity or 
 internal/external antenna selection options. The low loss, rugged MMCX 
 connectors allow for improved mechanical stability and the use of higher 
 quality, lower loss antenna cables. The radios have built-in RF surge 
 protection circuit, which can significantly improve radio reliability in 
 harsh ESD and EMP sensitive environments. The operating temperature range 
 is from -40º C to +85º C.

 The development of these radios was driven by our OEM customers who have 
 been using our radio cards for almost 10 years in various applications 
 deployed around the world, said Raghu PV, General Manager of Doodle Labs. 
 The feature set bundled in these radios is the result of an accumulation 
 of suggestions and feedback we have obtained over the years from customer 
 interactions and shared field performance experiences.

 The DLM105 and DLM106 modules are now sampling and volume shipments will 
 begin on March 1, 2009. The modules will carry modular FCC, IC, and CE 
 approvals (in progress). The radio modules are compatible with Atheros’ 
 Linux MADWIFI and Windows XP drivers as well as various Linux routing 
 operating systems like Antcor Ikarus and Mikrotik.



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 Doodle Labs is a technology development company focusing on the design, 
 and manufacturing of ruggedized, high Performance, high quality, 
 Industrial wireless IP communication modules and systems. Doodle Labs 
 products help OEMs to leverage the cost effective wireless IP technology 
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[WISPA] windmills and radio

2009-02-20 Thread Tristan Plumb
I have heard rumours of collocating wind turbines and radio equipment,
but no real solid examples. I am currently in discussion with the owners
of a decent sized windmill and tower (about a megawatt, 200 ft) about
doing just that. They are willing, but would like some more information
to provide thier warranters and insurers. So, if any of you all have
experence with windmills and fixed wireless (especially) or celluar
installations I would like to hear your stories! My concerns are around
EMF interference, blades obstructing the Fresnel zone, and any problems
(hopefully none) in store for my hosts.

Thank you,
Tristan




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Re: [WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?

2009-02-20 Thread Clint Ricker
I don't know the specifics of the Charter bankruptcy, but I've been
working in telecom long enough to know that most traditional service
providers do have to take on massive amounts of long-term debt to
build out their infrastructure.  Buildout of wireline networks is very
capital intensive, involves large long-term loans, and does have a lot
longer ROI than say, a wireless AP (most independent wisps build their
ROI around months rather than years).  On the other hand, the
infrastructure holds its value a lot longer (deployed cable HFC will
be commercially viable a lot longer than the current generation of
PTMP radios, deployed GPON FTTN even more so (all assuming some
swapouts of gear at the CO / headend every few years).

Debt is necessary part of most telecom buildout, and lenders knowingly
assume some of the risk in return for interest on their loans.  The
difference between Charter failing and other telco's / cable companies
succeeding isn't business model per-se (they all have, at some
level, the same business model) but is more likely the mundane issues
that usually lead to business success or failure -- execution, etc...

-Clint Ricker




On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com 
wrote:
 Wish I could just write off my debt and still be in business.

 This kind of thing is just wrong.

 Go so far in debt that there's no way out.  Work off of a bad business
 model.  Then stick everyone else with the bill and walk away in a few years
 totally in the clear.

 it's BS
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?


 Probably nothing, other than Charter may be more nimble in the future
 without all of that burden.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net
 Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?

 Charter is set to file bankruptcy protection on or before April 1 as
 part of a financial restructuring to reduce its debt by $8bn.

 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/245062c2-f93d-11dd-90c1-77b07658.html?referrer_id=yahoofinanceft_ref=yahoo1segid=03058nclick_check=1



 
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-- 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Twitter

2009-02-20 Thread Mike Hammett
I was thinking about it.


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--
From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:08 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] OT: Twitter

 Just curious if anyone other than myself (@tetherow) and Peter R
 (@radinfo) use twitter.


 
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Re: [WISPA] windmills and radio

2009-02-20 Thread Mike Hammett
On the turbine itself?  Well, the top part where the generator is moves, so 
it probably won't work.  I've heard the fiberglass blades don't affect it, 
but I've also heard that they do.


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--
From: Tristan Plumb w...@trstn.net
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:47 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] windmills and radio

 I have heard rumours of collocating wind turbines and radio equipment,
 but no real solid examples. I am currently in discussion with the owners
 of a decent sized windmill and tower (about a megawatt, 200 ft) about
 doing just that. They are willing, but would like some more information
 to provide thier warranters and insurers. So, if any of you all have
 experence with windmills and fixed wireless (especially) or celluar
 installations I would like to hear your stories! My concerns are around
 EMF interference, blades obstructing the Fresnel zone, and any problems
 (hopefully none) in store for my hosts.

 Thank you,
 Tristan



 
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