[WISPA] Billing Software
Hi All, I was wondering which software your company is using for the billing task. What you like and what you don't... (or what you tried and worked and what was just horrible) Indeed besides the nice presentations from the software companies, stability and availability is something always required in our market. Suggestions welcome! :) -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone on the east cost need a 100' ladder truck?
My 65' bucket truck runs around $1k per year. But that's a policy that allows more than just wireless installs. I can trim trees, work on the local farmers grain elevators etc. If I just used my truck for my business purposes the insurance is quite a bit cheaper. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone on the east cost need a 100' ladder truck? Wouldnt that be fun! But, I can only imagine what the insurance would run. -RickG On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Less than $5k right now! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SEAGRAVE-WR-07DF-ONLY-18-049-MILES-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ260366134160QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCommercial_Trucks?hash=item260366134160_trksid=p4506.c0.m245_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance
Find a broker that deals with CNA. They are still in the ISP business. Use 2 separate classifications. One is being an ISP and the second is satellite installer. Most insurance CO's have no clue what a WISP is to this day and will run for the hills when you describe your business. They all know what an ISP is and have also been offering policies for sat. installers for years. Since all you are doing on an install is mounting an antenna and radio, it is no different than mounting a Sat. dish so coverage is not an issue. Make sure you break out all $$ that are charged for the installs and keep them separate in your books, as in most states, you will be billed for that classification based on gross revenue . It should keep your costs down Good luck. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Thanks board members. I feel that this sort of service set will help WISPA members quite a bit. ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone on the east cost need a 100' ladder truck?
Insurance rates would depend on how often you use the sirens when late to an appointment. -Clint Ricker On Feb 25, 2009, at 12:53 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldnt that be fun! But, I can only imagine what the insurance would run. -RickG On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Less than $5k right now! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SEAGRAVE-WR-07DF-ONLY-18-049-MILES-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ260366134160QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCommercial_Trucks?hash=item260366134160_trksid=p4506.c0.m245_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 marlon --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act
It is anticipated that there will be at least one grant in every state. So it's possible for a state to not get any money out of $3.9B? How much money was put into RUS funds previously? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:11 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Stimulus act http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20090223/WIRELESS/902239988/1082/100/ Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act
$6,352,381,264 between 2001 and May 2008 (see attached from UDSA RUS web site) http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/index.htm -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act It is anticipated that there will be at least one grant in every state. So it's possible for a state to not get any money out of $3.9B? How much money was put into RUS funds previously? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:11 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Stimulus act http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20090223/WIRELESS/902239988/1082/100 / Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ BIBA_asof_5-9-08.pdf Description: BIBA_asof_5-9-08.pdf WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act
So RUS has given out about as much money so far as the stimulus act is giving us? How is the stimulus act supposed to blanket the country if the RUS so far hasn't been able to accomplish much with roughly the same amount of money? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Kevin Suitor ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:59 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act $6,352,381,264 between 2001 and May 2008 (see attached from UDSA RUS web site) http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/index.htm -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act It is anticipated that there will be at least one grant in every state. So it's possible for a state to not get any money out of $3.9B? How much money was put into RUS funds previously? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:11 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Stimulus act http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20090223/WIRELESS/902239988/1082/100 / Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wifi outperforms Cellular and Wimax
This was very interesting: http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/02/03/muni-wifi-outperforms-cellular-and-wi max/ Way to go WISPS! Scott WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act
The $6 Billion should be for the Telecom side only. There are Power, Telecom and last Broadband divisions with Broadband working out of the Telecom side but numbers are kept separate. Broadband started in 2004 I thought. Was given numbers for broadband in a seminar were $ 1.2 Billion loan guarantees and 175 grants for $ 85 Million since inception. Used to be a RUS contractor and helped with the rewrite of the 515 outside plant contract. Don Renner NetsurfUSA 8550 Main St. French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-4514 dren...@netsurfusa.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act From my understanding, the RUS is redefining their guildlines. They awarded grants to the least population without Broadband. If you look last years awards, you will see what I mean (attached). I think now they are going to try to fund the most populations in unserved/underserved areas. Of course, IMHO. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: So RUS has given out about as much money so far as the stimulus act is giving us? How is the stimulus act supposed to blanket the country if the RUS so far hasn't been able to accomplish much with roughly the same amount of money? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Kevin Suitor ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:59 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act $6,352,381,264 between 2001 and May 2008 (see attached from UDSA RUS web site) http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/index.htm -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stimulus act It is anticipated that there will be at least one grant in every state. So it's possible for a state to not get any money out of $3.9B? How much money was put into RUS funds previously? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:11 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Stimulus act http://www.rcrwireless.com/article/20090223/WIRELESS/902239988/1082/100 / Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango 5300 units
I have a couple dozen of these little babies, we have upgraded to some newer gear and have these for sale for $110 each plus shipping costs. Comes with Trango Fox 5300 ODU, J-Box and Power Supply. If you are interested, let me know. Thank You, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Carlson Wireless Announces the First Rollout of its Next Generation SWiFT Platform with the Release of the LongHaul 5x Ethernet Microwave Backhaul Radio
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[WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
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Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf I'm not sure what exactly this card's target is. It would cover channels 8 - 13, but then also a bunch of 2-way and other services. There must be an international band that covers 180 - 280. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:28 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card? http://www.ubnt.com/products/xr1.php -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ISP-Lists Shutting Down/ISPCON also
Hi All, Just saw a note from Jeff Goldman that at the end of March the ISP Lists are going away. Also, got a note from Alex that they were going to shut down ISPCON. Can't believe I've been following a number of their lists for over 8 years, and going to ISPCONs for probably 5 years. Thanks Alex and Jeff for all your efforts over the years! Jeff Jeff Broadwick Sales Manager, ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) +1 574-935-8488 (Fax) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
The google map that Brian Webster made had channels 20 - 52 on it. So, is 1-8 whitespaces? And how do I find out if I can use it in my area. I'd love to get my hands on one of those cards and start testing, it I would be able to use it in my area. Brian Rohrbacher Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf I'm not sure what exactly this card's target is. It would cover channels 8 - 13, but then also a bunch of 2-way and other services. There must be an international band that covers 180 - 280. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Randy Cosby" dco...@infowest.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:28 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card? http://www.ubnt.com/products/xr1.php -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
On that page it says the card is for meter reading. I don't think it has anything to do with TV Whitespaces Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card? The google map that Brian Webster made had channels 20 - 52 on it. So, is 1-8 whitespaces? And how do I find out if I can use it in my area. I'd love to get my hands on one of those cards and start testing, it I would be able to use it in my area. Brian Rohrbacher Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf I'm not sure what exactly this card's target is. It would cover channels 8 - 13, but then also a bunch of 2-way and other services. There must be an international band that covers 180 - 280. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Randy Cosby mailto:dco...@infowest.com dco...@infowest.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:28 PM To: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card? http://www.ubnt.com/products/xr1.php -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
Anyone have any leads on antennas for whitespaces? Brian Randy Cosby wrote: http://www.ubnt.com/products/xr1.php WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
Sorry, it's not a "White Spaces" card. I expect White Spaces equipment to be ready in possibly 18 to 24 months. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: The google map that Brian Webster made had channels 20 - 52 on it. So, is 1-8 whitespaces? And how do I find out if I can use it in my area. I'd love to get my hands on one of those cards and start testing, it I would be able to use it in my area. Brian Rohrbacher Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf I'm not sure what exactly this card's target is. It would cover channels 8 - 13, but then also a bunch of 2-way and other services. There must be an international band that covers 180 - 280. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Randy Cosby" dco...@infowest.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:28 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card? http://www.ubnt.com/products/xr1.php -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
Please ask again in 6 - 18 months. White Space is not available for use yet. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone have any leads on antennas for whitespaces? Brian Randy Cosby wrote: http://www.ubnt.com/products/xr1.php WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
So, is it a card that operates in some of the white spaces frequency then? Jack Unger wrote: Sorry, it's not a "White Spaces" card. I expect White Spaces equipment to be ready in possibly 18 to 24 months. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: The google map that Brian Webster made had channels 20 - 52 on it. So, is 1-8 whitespaces? And how do I find out if I can use it in my area. I'd love to get my hands on one of those cards and start testing, it I would be able to use it in my area. Brian Rohrbacher Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf I'm not sure what exactly this card's target is. It would cover channels 8 - 13, but then also a bunch of 2-way and other services. There must be an international band that covers 180 - 280. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Randy Cosby" dco...@infowest.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:28 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card? http://www.ubnt.com/products/xr1.php -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
Brian, Yes; it is a card with a frequency range that overlaps some of the existing VHF television channel frequencies. In the future, in some geographic areas some of these channels, if unused for Television Broadcasting could be available for Fixed broadband wireless use under the TV White Spaces rules. IF the card is contained inside FCC-certified equipment and IF the network operator properly deploys the equipment with an appropriate Internet connection to the (not yet in existence) FCC-mandated geolocation database, the card might possibly (although somewhat unlikely) be used legally for TV White Spaces work. TV White Spaces is going to require an entire equipment "ecosystem" (hardware, software, antennas and database). This card, because of its rather narrow frequency range and possible other technical limitations, won't likely be chosen by manufacturers for their TVWS equipment. jack Brian Rohrbacher wrote: So, is it a card that operates in some of the white spaces frequency then? Jack Unger wrote: Sorry, it's not a "White Spaces" card. I expect White Spaces equipment to be ready in possibly 18 to 24 months. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: The google map that Brian Webster made had channels 20 - 52 on it. So, is 1-8 whitespaces? And how do I find out if I can use it in my area. I'd love to get my hands on one of those cards and start testing, it I would be able to use it in my area. Brian Rohrbacher Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf I'm not sure what exactly this card's target is. It would cover channels 8 - 13, but then also a bunch of 2-way and other services. There must be an international band that covers 180 - 280. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Randy Cosby" dco...@infowest.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:28 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card? http://www.ubnt.com/products/xr1.php -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email
Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
Brian, Like Jack says, this is nothing like a whitespaces device. You can download the first draft of the specifications at the FCC, I think it is about 120 pages. The devices are supposed to have a sensing radio to detect existing tv channels, in addition to detecting wireless microphones, and then shift to another open channel. And it is supposed to go over the net to query a database (that doesn't exist yet) as to what channels are open in a given area. Also, you ask about what antennas are available. Speculation was that you would buy a radio and it would be certified with a specific antenna. The certification requirements will be much stricter than the unlicensed gear we are familiar with. And I would suspect the tv people will be looking over your shoulder, making sure you follow the letter of the law. Also, I believe the channels available in a given area are still somewhat in flux. Many stations were going to move around on the transition date, now that is delayed. I don't think the database Brian queried to build his google.kml has the final data. -John On Feb 25, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: So, is it a card that operates in some of the white spaces frequency then? Jack Unger wrote: Sorry, it's not a White Spaces card. I expect White Spaces equipment to be ready in possibly 18 to 24 months. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: The google map that Brian Webster made had channels 20 - 52 on it. So, is 1-8 whitespaces? And how do I find out if I can use it in my area. I'd love to get my hands on one of those cards and start testing, it I would be able to use it in my area. Brian Rohrbacher WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP-Lists Shutting Down/ISPCON also
Yes, I heard. Its disappointing, but not a surprise, based on the current state and/or marketability of our industry (dominent Duopoly). I will say, ISPCON has had a very long run. They will always have a place in my heart as the most successful and professional show in the industry that represented us. And being a part of it has always given me reward and satisfaction. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] ISP-Lists Shutting Down/ISPCON also Hi All, Just saw a note from Jeff Goldman that at the end of March the ISP Lists are going away. Also, got a note from Alex that they were going to shut down ISPCON. Can't believe I've been following a number of their lists for over 8 years, and going to ISPCONs for probably 5 years. Thanks Alex and Jeff for all your efforts over the years! Jeff Jeff Broadwick Sales Manager, ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) +1 574-935-8488 (Fax) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
Well, with a couple of exclusions, channels 2 - 5x are available for whitespaces. That card only works from 180 MHz - 280 MHz, which falls under what I stated below. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card? The google map that Brian Webster made had channels 20 - 52 on it. So, is 1-8 whitespaces? And how do I find out if I can use it in my area. I'd love to get my hands on one of those cards and start testing, it I would be able to use it in my area. Brian Rohrbacher Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf I'm not sure what exactly this card's target is. It would cover channels 8 - 13, but then also a bunch of 2-way and other services. There must be an international band that covers 180 - 280. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:28 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card? http://www.ubnt.com/products/xr1.php -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
I like to plan ahead. But hopefully my competition waits 18 months to look into white spaces. :) I would like that. Jack Unger wrote: Please ask again in 6 - 18 months. White Space is not available for use yet. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone have any leads on antennas for whitespaces? Brian Randy Cosby wrote: http://www.ubnt.com/products/xr1.php WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wifi outperforms Cellular and Wimax
LOL! First comment: * Peter* Says: February 3rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm Do you have similar figures for satellite service? :) On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Scott Parsons sc...@e-zy.net wrote: This was very interesting: http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/02/03/muni-wifi-outperforms-cellular-and-wi max/http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/02/03/muni-wifi-outperforms-cellular-and-wi%0Amax/ Way to go WISPS! Scott WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card?
There are 2 MHz of spectrum in the 220 MHz band able to be licensed for private land mobile use in the US using very narrow channels. I think they are targeting remote meter reading markets with this radio not broadband. The frequency range is also probably useable in other bands outside the US. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:28 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] first whitespaces 802.11 card? http://www.ubnt.com/products/xr1.php -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
