Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
Complaints about what is leaking out all over their desk/floor Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 13:26 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: Customer complaints??? About what's inside the cable?! Lol. Not what's "inside the cable", but what pushes OUT of the cable when you have a long run. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 13:26 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: > Customer complaints??? About what's inside the cable?! Lol. Not what's "inside the cable", but what pushes OUT of the cable when you have a long run. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 13:09 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: > Never seen the gel leak, get thin/drippy. I have. It is more common to see in very warm environments, I think. One of my customers in southern California does use a nylon tie wrap to "bend" the cable and it seems to help some. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Tech support
Hey Cameron, The new firmware for the VL900 platform indeed provides better performance. The new filters are hardware based but controlled in software. One of the new features is the ACCS and NFS controls (Automatic Clear Channel Selection and Noise Floor Selection). The way this will work is the Spectrum Analyzer Mode will determine the noise characteristics per channel and then can make an automatic selection of noise floor and clean channel. There will still be manual adjustment of optimization rules for skilled users available in the interface. If you didn't catch the webinar last week, one of the tests we ran was a head-to-head comparison against another 900 MHz radio. We tested six locations that were all NLOS. We outperformed the other radio in five of the six locations and could connect in every location whereas the other guy only registered a connection in three of those sites. (50%) You all will be the first to know when the firmware is GA. We are taking orders for hardware through partners and distribution channels. Eric Albert | Application Engineer Alvarion Inc. | -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Tech support We were advised that the 5.5 firmware provides better performance for the VL 900 in high noise areas with the use of software filters, etc. I would really like to start testing it soon. -C -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Tech support What versions are you running now? What do you need the new firmware for? John Rock Director of Operations - Senior Engineer Wireless Connections 166 Milan Ave., Norwalk, Oh. 44857 ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:56 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion Tech support I just got of the phone with Alvarion Technical Support. I was asking to get a copy of the 5.5 firmware for VL. They said I had to wait for it to be available on the website. I thought they were joking at first but I guess not, they said it would probably be available Monday. If you have a copy please send it along. -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(43). *
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
My BDDN cable comes 275' down the tower. It runs about 25' horizontal and then up 4'. After almost 5 years, it still oozes gel out at the lower end. I doubt that a wire tie will stop it. The gel is inside the inner jacket with the twisted pairs. No way I see you will get the jacket to stay tight against the conductors without damage to the conductors. Michael Baird wrote: > We intend to run it to the base location, we are bringing the ethernet > cabling to patch panels. Maybe making the ethernet cabling run up hill > to the patch panel once at the base would resolve issues with the gel > running out, depending on the height of the run I imagine, not sure how > much that gel will want to move though. Down vertically to base, then up > to patch-panel at base. > > Regards > Michael Baird > >> I think you missed my question. I mean if one was to put a snug wire >> tie around the cable a few inches back from the connector on the lower >> end of the cable would it prevent the goo from running out on vertical >> runs of gel filled cat5/cat6? Since the stuff is not under a lot of >> pressure it might be possible to hold it back. >> >> Greg >> On May 29, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >> >> >>> Cable that didn't come off the clearance aisle. If you have cable >>> that gets torn from zip ties, you need a new supplier. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >>> improbable, must be the truth." >>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, wrote: >>> >>> Would a snug plastic wire tie at the lower end stop the gel fill leakage? On May 29, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Anthony Will wrote: > We use this on our towers. The main thing is the gel fill will > liquefy > and drip into and out of the ends of the cable. Be sure to take > appropriate steps to mitigate the mess it leaves. Other then that > we > will continue to use this cable for towers and running direct burial > and > through groves of trees. > > Anthony Will > Broadband Crop. > http://www.broadband-mn.com/ > > Josh Luthman wrote: > > >> That's the stuff I ordered and will use soon. >> >> On 5/27/09, 3-dB Networks wrote: >> >> >> >>> I'm becoming a fan of this stuff: >>> >>> http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/osp_broadban >>> d_cat5e.pdf >>> >>> Specifically the BBDGE cable. >>> >>> It's about $400 per 1000ft spool though... >>> >>> Daniel White >>> 3-dB Networks >>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some different options for the towers and client installs. I was wondering what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in what you look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded cable, if so with what? Will the gel filled type overheat in the sun? Should i run all of this in conduit, at least for the AP's at the towers? Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > --
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
Customer complaints??? About what's inside the cable?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Chuck Profito wrote: > I have never used the gel stuff, but every time I walk in behind one of my > competitors, it is always a customer gripe. But that being said, after the > strip, before you crimp, could you shoot some electronic cleaner, the no > residue type, in the end, then back fill it with a silicone syringe, then > crimp the end on. Then maybe a zip tie? > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:09 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling > > Oh I see - when you said leaky I assumed water. > > Never seen the gel leak, get thin/drippy. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:06 PM, wrote: >> I think you missed my question. I mean if one was to put a snug wire >> tie around the cable a few inches back from the connector on the lower >> end of the cable would it prevent the goo from running out on vertical >> runs of gel filled cat5/cat6? Since the stuff is not under a lot of >> pressure it might be possible to hold it back. >> >> Greg >> On May 29, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>> Cable that didn't come off the clearance aisle. If you have cable >>> that gets torn from zip ties, you need a new supplier. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >>> improbable, must be the truth." >>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, wrote: Would a snug plastic wire tie at the lower end stop the gel fill leakage? On May 29, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Anthony Will wrote: > We use this on our towers. The main thing is the gel fill will > liquefy > and drip into and out of the ends of the cable. Be sure to take > appropriate steps to mitigate the mess it leaves. Other then that > we > will continue to use this cable for towers and running direct burial > and > through groves of trees. > > Anthony Will > Broadband Crop. > http://www.broadband-mn.com/ > > Josh Luthman wrote: >> That's the stuff I ordered and will use soon. >> >> On 5/27/09, 3-dB Networks wrote: >> >>> I'm becoming a fan of this stuff: >>> >>> > http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/osp_broadban >>> d_cat5e.pdf >>> >>> Specifically the BBDGE cable. >>> >>> It's about $400 per 1000ft spool though... >>> >>> Daniel White >>> 3-dB Networks >>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some different options for the towers and client installs. I was wondering what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in what you look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded cable, if so with what? Will the gel filled type overheat in the sun? Should i run all of this in conduit, at least for the AP's at the towers? Regards Michael Baird > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> > > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> > > >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>>
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
I have never used the gel stuff, but every time I walk in behind one of my competitors, it is always a customer gripe. But that being said, after the strip, before you crimp, could you shoot some electronic cleaner, the no residue type, in the end, then back fill it with a silicone syringe, then crimp the end on. Then maybe a zip tie? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling Oh I see - when you said leaky I assumed water. Never seen the gel leak, get thin/drippy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:06 PM, wrote: > I think you missed my question. I mean if one was to put a snug wire > tie around the cable a few inches back from the connector on the lower > end of the cable would it prevent the goo from running out on vertical > runs of gel filled cat5/cat6? Since the stuff is not under a lot of > pressure it might be possible to hold it back. > > Greg > On May 29, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> Cable that didn't come off the clearance aisle. If you have cable >> that gets torn from zip ties, you need a new supplier. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >> improbable, must be the truth." >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, wrote: >>> Would a snug plastic wire tie at the lower end stop the gel fill >>> leakage? >>> >>> On May 29, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Anthony Will wrote: >>> We use this on our towers. The main thing is the gel fill will liquefy and drip into and out of the ends of the cable. Be sure to take appropriate steps to mitigate the mess it leaves. Other then that we will continue to use this cable for towers and running direct burial and through groves of trees. Anthony Will Broadband Crop. http://www.broadband-mn.com/ Josh Luthman wrote: > That's the stuff I ordered and will use soon. > > On 5/27/09, 3-dB Networks wrote: > >> I'm becoming a fan of this stuff: >> >> http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/osp_broadban >> d_cat5e.pdf >> >> Specifically the BBDGE cable. >> >> It's about $400 per 1000ft spool though... >> >> Daniel White >> 3-dB Networks >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Michael Baird >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:43 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling >>> >>> We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at >>> some >>> different options for the towers and client installs. I was >>> wondering >>> what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in >>> what you >>> look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded >>> cable, if >>> so with what? Will the gel filled type overheat in the sun? >>> Should i run >>> all of this in conduit, at least for the AP's at the towers? >>> >>> Regards >>> Michael Baird >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
We intend to run it to the base location, we are bringing the ethernet cabling to patch panels. Maybe making the ethernet cabling run up hill to the patch panel once at the base would resolve issues with the gel running out, depending on the height of the run I imagine, not sure how much that gel will want to move though. Down vertically to base, then up to patch-panel at base. Regards Michael Baird > I think you missed my question. I mean if one was to put a snug wire > tie around the cable a few inches back from the connector on the lower > end of the cable would it prevent the goo from running out on vertical > runs of gel filled cat5/cat6? Since the stuff is not under a lot of > pressure it might be possible to hold it back. > > Greg > On May 29, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > >> Cable that didn't come off the clearance aisle. If you have cable >> that gets torn from zip ties, you need a new supplier. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >> improbable, must be the truth." >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, wrote: >> >>> Would a snug plastic wire tie at the lower end stop the gel fill >>> leakage? >>> >>> On May 29, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Anthony Will wrote: >>> >>> We use this on our towers. The main thing is the gel fill will liquefy and drip into and out of the ends of the cable. Be sure to take appropriate steps to mitigate the mess it leaves. Other then that we will continue to use this cable for towers and running direct burial and through groves of trees. Anthony Will Broadband Crop. http://www.broadband-mn.com/ Josh Luthman wrote: > That's the stuff I ordered and will use soon. > > On 5/27/09, 3-dB Networks wrote: > > >> I'm becoming a fan of this stuff: >> >> http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/osp_broadban >> d_cat5e.pdf >> >> Specifically the BBDGE cable. >> >> It's about $400 per 1000ft spool though... >> >> Daniel White >> 3-dB Networks >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >> >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Michael Baird >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:43 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling >>> >>> We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at >>> some >>> different options for the towers and client installs. I was >>> wondering >>> what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in >>> what you >>> look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded >>> cable, if >>> so with what? Will the gel filled type overheat in the sun? >>> Should i run >>> all of this in conduit, at least for the AP's at the towers? >>> >>> Regards >>> Michael Baird >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wi
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
Oh I see - when you said leaky I assumed water. Never seen the gel leak, get thin/drippy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:06 PM, wrote: > I think you missed my question. I mean if one was to put a snug wire > tie around the cable a few inches back from the connector on the lower > end of the cable would it prevent the goo from running out on vertical > runs of gel filled cat5/cat6? Since the stuff is not under a lot of > pressure it might be possible to hold it back. > > Greg > On May 29, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> Cable that didn't come off the clearance aisle. If you have cable >> that gets torn from zip ties, you need a new supplier. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >> improbable, must be the truth." >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, wrote: >>> Would a snug plastic wire tie at the lower end stop the gel fill >>> leakage? >>> >>> On May 29, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Anthony Will wrote: >>> We use this on our towers. The main thing is the gel fill will liquefy and drip into and out of the ends of the cable. Be sure to take appropriate steps to mitigate the mess it leaves. Other then that we will continue to use this cable for towers and running direct burial and through groves of trees. Anthony Will Broadband Crop. http://www.broadband-mn.com/ Josh Luthman wrote: > That's the stuff I ordered and will use soon. > > On 5/27/09, 3-dB Networks wrote: > >> I'm becoming a fan of this stuff: >> >> http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/osp_broadban >> d_cat5e.pdf >> >> Specifically the BBDGE cable. >> >> It's about $400 per 1000ft spool though... >> >> Daniel White >> 3-dB Networks >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>> boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Michael Baird >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:43 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling >>> >>> We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at >>> some >>> different options for the towers and client installs. I was >>> wondering >>> what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in >>> what you >>> look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded >>> cable, if >>> so with what? Will the gel filled type overheat in the sun? >>> Should i run >>> all of this in conduit, at least for the AP's at the towers? >>> >>> Regards >>> Michael Baird >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> -
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
I think you missed my question. I mean if one was to put a snug wire tie around the cable a few inches back from the connector on the lower end of the cable would it prevent the goo from running out on vertical runs of gel filled cat5/cat6? Since the stuff is not under a lot of pressure it might be possible to hold it back. Greg On May 29, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Cable that didn't come off the clearance aisle. If you have cable > that gets torn from zip ties, you need a new supplier. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, wrote: >> Would a snug plastic wire tie at the lower end stop the gel fill >> leakage? >> >> On May 29, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Anthony Will wrote: >> >>> We use this on our towers. The main thing is the gel fill will >>> liquefy >>> and drip into and out of the ends of the cable. Be sure to take >>> appropriate steps to mitigate the mess it leaves. Other then that >>> we >>> will continue to use this cable for towers and running direct burial >>> and >>> through groves of trees. >>> >>> Anthony Will >>> Broadband Crop. >>> http://www.broadband-mn.com/ >>> >>> Josh Luthman wrote: That's the stuff I ordered and will use soon. On 5/27/09, 3-dB Networks wrote: > I'm becoming a fan of this stuff: > > http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/osp_broadban > d_cat5e.pdf > > Specifically the BBDGE cable. > > It's about $400 per 1000ft spool though... > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > http://www.3dbnetworks.com > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Michael Baird >> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:43 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling >> >> We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at >> some >> different options for the towers and client installs. I was >> wondering >> what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in >> what you >> look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded >> cable, if >> so with what? Will the gel filled type overheat in the sun? >> Should i run >> all of this in conduit, at least for the AP's at the towers? >> >> Regards >> Michael Baird >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
Cable that didn't come off the clearance aisle. If you have cable that gets torn from zip ties, you need a new supplier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, wrote: > Would a snug plastic wire tie at the lower end stop the gel fill > leakage? > > On May 29, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Anthony Will wrote: > >> We use this on our towers. The main thing is the gel fill will >> liquefy >> and drip into and out of the ends of the cable. Be sure to take >> appropriate steps to mitigate the mess it leaves. Other then that we >> will continue to use this cable for towers and running direct burial >> and >> through groves of trees. >> >> Anthony Will >> Broadband Crop. >> http://www.broadband-mn.com/ >> >> Josh Luthman wrote: >>> That's the stuff I ordered and will use soon. >>> >>> On 5/27/09, 3-dB Networks wrote: >>> I'm becoming a fan of this stuff: http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/osp_broadban d_cat5e.pdf Specifically the BBDGE cable. It's about $400 per 1000ft spool though... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- > boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Michael Baird > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:43 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling > > We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some > different options for the towers and client installs. I was > wondering > what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in > what you > look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded > cable, if > so with what? Will the gel filled type overheat in the sun? > Should i run > all of this in conduit, at least for the AP's at the towers? > > Regards > Michael Baird > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
Would a snug plastic wire tie at the lower end stop the gel fill leakage? On May 29, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Anthony Will wrote: > We use this on our towers. The main thing is the gel fill will > liquefy > and drip into and out of the ends of the cable. Be sure to take > appropriate steps to mitigate the mess it leaves. Other then that we > will continue to use this cable for towers and running direct burial > and > through groves of trees. > > Anthony Will > Broadband Crop. > http://www.broadband-mn.com/ > > Josh Luthman wrote: >> That's the stuff I ordered and will use soon. >> >> On 5/27/09, 3-dB Networks wrote: >> >>> I'm becoming a fan of this stuff: >>> >>> http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/osp_broadban >>> d_cat5e.pdf >>> >>> Specifically the BBDGE cable. >>> >>> It's about $400 per 1000ft spool though... >>> >>> Daniel White >>> 3-dB Networks >>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some different options for the towers and client installs. I was wondering what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in what you look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded cable, if so with what? Will the gel filled type overheat in the sun? Should i run all of this in conduit, at least for the AP's at the towers? Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
We use this on our towers. The main thing is the gel fill will liquefy and drip into and out of the ends of the cable. Be sure to take appropriate steps to mitigate the mess it leaves. Other then that we will continue to use this cable for towers and running direct burial and through groves of trees. Anthony Will Broadband Crop. http://www.broadband-mn.com/ Josh Luthman wrote: > That's the stuff I ordered and will use soon. > > On 5/27/09, 3-dB Networks wrote: > >> I'm becoming a fan of this stuff: >> >> http://www.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Communications_Cable/osp_broadban >> d_cat5e.pdf >> >> Specifically the BBDGE cable. >> >> It's about $400 per 1000ft spool though... >> >> Daniel White >> 3-dB Networks >> http://www.3dbnetworks.com >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Michael Baird >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:43 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling >>> >>> We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some >>> different options for the towers and client installs. I was wondering >>> what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in what you >>> look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded cable, if >>> so with what? Will the gel filled type overheat in the sun? Should i run >>> all of this in conduit, at least for the AP's at the towers? >>> >>> Regards >>> Michael Baird >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Magento Commerce
That's why I'm asking about it. I looked at IP Pay's web site for the shopping carts they (you) worked with. It's the only one in the top section. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Charles Wu" Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:39 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Magento Commerce > We (IP Pay) have a pre-integrated / written module for Magento =) > > -Charles > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:47 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Magento Commerce > > Has anyone ever used Magento Commerce? > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Magento Commerce
We (IP Pay) have a pre-integrated / written module for Magento =) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Magento Commerce Has anyone ever used Magento Commerce? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Tech support
We were advised that the 5.5 firmware provides better performance for the VL 900 in high noise areas with the use of software filters, etc. I would really like to start testing it soon. -C -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Tech support What versions are you running now? What do you need the new firmware for? John Rock Director of Operations - Senior Engineer Wireless Connections 166 Milan Ave., Norwalk, Oh. 44857 ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:56 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion Tech support I just got of the phone with Alvarion Technical Support. I was asking to get a copy of the 5.5 firmware for VL. They said I had to wait for it to be available on the website. I thought they were joking at first but I guess not, they said it would probably be available Monday. If you have a copy please send it along. -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
