Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
So we now have WISPs with both StarOS and Mtik AP's that are having issues with the Router mode of CPQ/SL2. Wonder what Tranzeo would say about this? Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? I do. I will drop it to you offlist. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Do you have any ethreal data you can share? ryan Steve Smith wrote: In our case we are using staros APs. We like to have the CPE set to router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment on their side of our unit at their place. That way we don't care if they change out a piece of equipment. We are having no problem with any Tranzeo equipment that is set to bridge mode. We love the Tranzeo CPQs. Our problems are when the CPQs are in router mode. There is a definite problem that we can replicate 100% of the time. We have eliminated all of the causes of the problem with the exception of the Tranzeo CPQ. All units have 4.0.2 and we do not believe the problem is with an upgrade in the firmware because we can replicate the problem in version 3.6.7 as well. I just moved one client today that was in router mode back to bridge mode because they couldn't do their UPS shipping until we did. Apparently, we may need to move all of them to bridge mode but with hundreds of units out there I really don't like that idea. steve D. Ryan Spott wrote: Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP is the way to go. Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending and receiving wireless data. ryan Rick Kunze wrote: I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years. I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic as mentioned in the thread. I just upgraded one small town to 4.0.2, a couple 6000's and a couple dozen CPE's in router/NAT mode. No calls from any customers . . . everything seems normal. IMO, the Tranzeo stuff has been fine. All AP's however are bridged in my case. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Steve Smith, Chase 3000, PO Box 760, 554 Kramer St., Imperial, NE 69033, 308 882 3000 office, 308 883 3001 cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Steve Smith, Chase 3000, PO Box 760, 554 Kramer St., Imperial, NE 69033, 308 882 3000 office, 308 883 3001 cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
Well, this definetly has something to do with having P2P installed on any machine behind the CPQ router because I can trigger this 100% of the time by launching limewire. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? So we now have WISPs with both StarOS and Mtik AP's that are having issues with the Router mode of CPQ/SL2. Wonder what Tranzeo would say about this? Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? I do. I will drop it to you offlist. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Do you have any ethreal data you can share? ryan Steve Smith wrote: In our case we are using staros APs. We like to have the CPE set to router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment on their side of our unit at their place. That way we don't care if they change out a piece of equipment. We are having no problem with any Tranzeo equipment that is set to bridge mode. We love the Tranzeo CPQs. Our problems are when the CPQs are in router mode. There is a definite problem that we can replicate 100% of the time. We have eliminated all of the causes of the problem with the exception of the Tranzeo CPQ. All units have 4.0.2 and we do not believe the problem is with an upgrade in the firmware because we can replicate the problem in version 3.6.7 as well. I just moved one client today that was in router mode back to bridge mode because they couldn't do their UPS shipping until we did. Apparently, we may need to move all of them to bridge mode but with hundreds of units out there I really don't like that idea. steve D. Ryan Spott wrote: Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP is the way to go. Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending and receiving wireless data. ryan Rick Kunze wrote: I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years. I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic as mentioned in the thread. I just upgraded one small town to 4.0.2, a couple 6000's and a couple dozen CPE's in router/NAT mode. No calls from any customers . . . everything seems normal. IMO, the Tranzeo stuff has been fine. All AP's however are bridged in my case. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Steve Smith, Chase 3000, PO Box 760, 554 Kramer St., Imperial, NE 69033, 308 882 3000 office, 308 883 3001 cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Steve Smith, Chase 3000, PO Box 760, 554 Kramer St., Imperial, NE 69033, 308 882 3000 office, 308 883 3001 cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
I have looked into what you are all having issue with. I use a combo of StarOS and Mikrotik. I have one tower that has 49 Connections currently. The AP is a RB411a with a XR2 on V3.17. ALL and I mean ALL clients are Tranzeo CPQ/SL2 with 3.6.7 or 3.5.2 all in router mode only. I have not had any of the issues that this thread started out talking about. If someone is really in need and wants to contact me off-list I would be willing to give them Read-Only access to the AP to look at it. Also if you need various firmware versions for Mikrotik, I have a link to a certain WISPA board members web site that has ALL the versions archived. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Well, this definetly has something to do with having P2P installed on any machine behind the CPQ router because I can trigger this 100% of the time by launching limewire. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? So we now have WISPs with both StarOS and Mtik AP's that are having issues with the Router mode of CPQ/SL2. Wonder what Tranzeo would say about this? Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? I do. I will drop it to you offlist. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Do you have any ethreal data you can share? ryan Steve Smith wrote: In our case we are using staros APs. We like to have the CPE set to router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment on their side of our unit at their place. That way we don't care if they change out a piece of equipment. We are having no problem with any Tranzeo equipment that is set to bridge mode. We love the Tranzeo CPQs. Our problems are when the CPQs are in router mode. There is a definite problem that we can replicate 100% of the time. We have eliminated all of the causes of the problem with the exception of the Tranzeo CPQ. All units have 4.0.2 and we do not believe the problem is with an upgrade in the firmware because we can replicate the problem in version 3.6.7 as well. I just moved one client today that was in router mode back to bridge mode because they couldn't do their UPS shipping until we did. Apparently, we may need to move all of them to bridge mode but with hundreds of units out there I really don't like that idea. steve D. Ryan Spott wrote: Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP is the way to go. Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending and receiving wireless data. ryan Rick Kunze wrote: I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years. I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic as mentioned in the thread. I just upgraded one small town to 4.0.2, a couple 6000's and a couple dozen CPE's in router/NAT mode. No calls from any customers . . . everything seems normal. IMO, the Tranzeo stuff has been fine. All AP's however are bridged in my case. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Steve Smith, Chase 3000, PO Box 760, 554 Kramer St., Imperial, NE 69033, 308 882 3000 office, 308 883 3001 cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Need BGP Support ASAP
Gino, You may need to look at the routes that are advertised via a looking glass to discover the reason. For example use the looking glass of your provider, and that of the other upstreams of the customer. As well, look at the customer's BGP tables. First define, are the configured advertisement actually advertizing from the customer. Configuration errors can sometimes prevent that. For example... A) if a rule was manually added to a text file of Quagga out of place. B) Routemap and filter relationships are not right. Second, Confirm all upstreams will accept all the route advertizements. Many reasons they might not A) Advertising a smaller subblock within a larger allocated registered block. Some providers do not allow it. Upstreams would need to add le 24 if adverrising a /24 on a /22. B) Reached max limit of allowable routes to advertise. Upstream must increase limit. C) Upstream may be filtering the IPs advertising, if they were not made aware of it. D) RIR records have not been updated to reflect your route policy, some upstreams filter on RIR records. E) Upstream does not accept small blocks below a certain size Third, Confirm routes aren' being overided at upstream A) A static route exists on the upstream to override. B) Some upstream BGP netwrok designs have routers that do not have enough memory for Full tables, and therefore all advertised routes may not exist on all routers, causing path issues. Smallest blocks will usually drop out first. C) Both Customer Upstream have a next hop Common upstream, and have rules for passing traffic between them that overide your advertised route. I can give an example of a common issue... Lets say we have a registered /22, and want to advertise a /24 at peerA and a /24 at peerB. We might Advertise a /22 at both, in case the route is not accepted by one of the upstream's upstreams because it is small block, as a safety measure. We might AS prepend PeerB over A to make one more priority for the /22 block. So both the /24 and /22 will advertise to a peer. Now lets say the /24 advertisement gets dropped because a router has no memory for it, or what ever reason, the /22 may still exist, causing a different routing behavior than configured for the /24. . Fourth, Make sure that your network being the return path, is not blocking the IPs from returning because of your own internal OSPF / IBGP rules. I guess my point is Without having any detail, or narrowing it down, the number of possibilties are endless to why it is not working. If you can verify what advertised routes propogated to what upstreams, you can then determine what factors might have led to that result. Lastly, I'll mention AS Prepend is often a default first choice for prioritizing the inbound route. But that method is not all or nothing for an advertisement. We found that for our customers, if they wanted a block to return on our circuit, they wanted all traffic on that block to return on out network. They wanted it 100%. One way to do that is to combine route maps with shortest block advertisements. For example, You onl;y advertise the /24 A on PeerA and /24 B on PeerB, so there is onl;y one configured choice for each /24. Then advertise the /22 for only one peers, or Prepend the /22 to propritize it. That mentality may not scale across having a large number of peers and upstreams, but for an end user customer with 2-3 Transits, it works well. We found that trobuleshooting customers was to hard UNLESS we knew and the customer knew what traffic was going across our network. With AS PRepending, maybe some of hte traffic might cross the other path in some situations. Everytime a customer has a slow access to a destination site, we havce to check BGP routes or firewalls snifffing before troubleshooting to know if its our problem or not. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need BGP Support ASAP Exactly, The problem is not for own ip space, its for a downstream customer ips space, they have several providers and want to favor our link for some ip ranges. They are prepending such ranges to the other providers to favor our link. Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:02 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need BGP Support ASAP You prepend the link you want to disfavor. The more you prepend the longer a route will look. David -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of
Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas
Bob, Yes, there are Dual Pol smaller than 2 ft. You can get them from Titan Wireless in TX. For $150 they sell a Dul Pol panel (I think 23dbi?) that can be used for Full Duplex or Two channels. And then of course there is Trango Broadband's Dual Pol 24dbi pannel for about $300. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas You won't find dual pol smaller than 2' If you do I would like to see it -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:42:21 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards). I'm thinking about looking for some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as they're monstrous). I'll probably end up using the Compex wlm54ag at 5ghz cards and a 433ah. There will be voice and video traffic across this link, which is why I'd prefer to do fdx. Can anyone suggest a better alternative? Anyone know of some good antennas for this? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas
Acutally the Dual Pol brand is Poynting, and back enclosure is included. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas You won't find dual pol smaller than 2' If you do I would like to see it -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:42:21 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards). I'm thinking about looking for some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as they're monstrous). I'll probably end up using the Compex wlm54ag at 5ghz cards and a 433ah. There will be voice and video traffic across this link, which is why I'd prefer to do fdx. Can anyone suggest a better alternative? Anyone know of some good antennas for this? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
Yes I have at least 75 clients with Tranzeo's (Router) connecting to StarOS. However, the StarOS AP's that I have are OLD WRAP boards with StarOS version 2.11.0. I had nothing but problems with the WAR boards as AP's due to the crappy HOTSPOT Valemont went to on v3 and lots of problems with VPN clients. begin rant that and Lonnie told me that I was clueless and to go out of business so that someone else that had a clue could take my customers G end Rant We are going to Mikrotik for all AP's due to the above rant. We still use lots of StarOS for Backhauls. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? While I am not certain that it is a Tranzeo issue, I do know that it is something we are able to cause 100% of the time only on Tranzeo units. It is possible that it is something in our configuration but so far we not found anything. Steve Barnes - Do you have any setups where you are have staros for the AP and a Tranzeo unit in router mode at the client? Kurt - we have no evidence that it is related to P2P being installed on the client machine. We see the problem on any type of download regardless of how it is done. Steve Steve Barnes wrote: I have looked into what you are all having issue with. I use a combo of StarOS and Mikrotik. I have one tower that has 49 Connections currently. The AP is a RB411a with a XR2 on V3.17. ALL and I mean ALL clients are Tranzeo CPQ/SL2 with 3.6.7 or 3.5.2 all in router mode only. I have not had any of the issues that this thread started out talking about. If someone is really in need and wants to contact me off-list I would be willing to give them Read-Only access to the AP to look at it. Also if you need various firmware versions for Mikrotik, I have a link to a certain WISPA board members web site that has ALL the versions archived. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Well, this definetly has something to do with having P2P installed on any machine behind the CPQ router because I can trigger this 100% of the time by launching limewire. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? So we now have WISPs with both StarOS and Mtik AP's that are having issues with the Router mode of CPQ/SL2. Wonder what Tranzeo would say about this? Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? I do. I will drop it to you offlist. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Do you have any ethreal data you can share? ryan Steve Smith wrote: In our case we are using staros APs. We like to have the CPE set to router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment on their side of our unit at their place. That way we don't care if they change out a piece of equipment. We are having no problem with any Tranzeo equipment that is set to bridge mode. We love the Tranzeo CPQs. Our problems are when the CPQs are in router mode. There is a definite problem that we can replicate 100% of the time. We have eliminated all of the causes of the problem with the exception of the Tranzeo CPQ. All units have 4.0.2 and we do not believe the problem is with an upgrade in the firmware because we can replicate the problem in version 3.6.7 as well. I just moved one client today that was in router mode back to bridge mode because they couldn't do their UPS shipping until we did. Apparently, we may need to move all of them to bridge mode but with hundreds of units out there I really don't like that idea. steve D. Ryan Spott wrote: Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP is the way to go. Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending and receiving wireless data. ryan Rick Kunze wrote: I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years. I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic as
Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas
We have some dual-pol integrated units. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Tom DeReggi wrote: Acutally the Dual Pol brand is Poynting, and back enclosure is included. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas You won't find dual pol smaller than 2' If you do I would like to see it -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:42:21 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Indoor fdx link antennas I would like to use MikroTik to create a fdx link that's going across a stadium (that's a bit more then 100 yards). I'm thinking about looking for some small dual pol antennas best case or the ARC ones worst case (as they're monstrous). I'll probably end up using the Compex wlm54ag at 5ghz cards and a 433ah. There will be voice and video traffic across this link, which is why I'd prefer to do fdx. Can anyone suggest a better alternative? Anyone know of some good antennas for this? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
I'm seeding just about every version from 2.9.51 to 3.24 on our servers. Let me know if you need any version in between. -Kevin On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Nealkevinsafel...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seeding just about every version from 2.9.51 to 3.24 on our servers. Let me know if you need any version in between. -Kevin On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Steve Barnesst...@pcswin.com wrote: Yes I have at least 75 clients with Tranzeo's (Router) connecting to StarOS. However, the StarOS AP's that I have are OLD WRAP boards with StarOS version 2.11.0. I had nothing but problems with the WAR boards as AP's due to the crappy HOTSPOT Valemont went to on v3 and lots of problems with VPN clients. begin rant that and Lonnie told me that I was clueless and to go out of business so that someone else that had a clue could take my customers G end Rant We are going to Mikrotik for all AP's due to the above rant. We still use lots of StarOS for Backhauls. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? While I am not certain that it is a Tranzeo issue, I do know that it is something we are able to cause 100% of the time only on Tranzeo units. It is possible that it is something in our configuration but so far we not found anything. Steve Barnes - Do you have any setups where you are have staros for the AP and a Tranzeo unit in router mode at the client? Kurt - we have no evidence that it is related to P2P being installed on the client machine. We see the problem on any type of download regardless of how it is done. Steve Steve Barnes wrote: I have looked into what you are all having issue with. I use a combo of StarOS and Mikrotik. I have one tower that has 49 Connections currently. The AP is a RB411a with a XR2 on V3.17. ALL and I mean ALL clients are Tranzeo CPQ/SL2 with 3.6.7 or 3.5.2 all in router mode only. I have not had any of the issues that this thread started out talking about. If someone is really in need and wants to contact me off-list I would be willing to give them Read-Only access to the AP to look at it. Also if you need various firmware versions for Mikrotik, I have a link to a certain WISPA board members web site that has ALL the versions archived. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Well, this definetly has something to do with having P2P installed on any machine behind the CPQ router because I can trigger this 100% of the time by launching limewire. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? So we now have WISPs with both StarOS and Mtik AP's that are having issues with the Router mode of CPQ/SL2. Wonder what Tranzeo would say about this? Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? I do. I will drop it to you offlist. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Do you have any ethreal data you can share? ryan Steve Smith wrote: In our case we are using staros APs. We like to have the CPE set to router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment on their side of our unit at their place. That way we don't care if they change out a piece of equipment. We are having no problem with any Tranzeo equipment that is set to bridge mode. We love the Tranzeo CPQs. Our problems are when the CPQs are in router mode. There is a definite problem that we can replicate 100% of the time. We have eliminated all of the causes of the problem with the exception of the Tranzeo CPQ. All units have 4.0.2 and we do not believe the problem is with an upgrade in the firmware because we can replicate the problem in version 3.6.7 as well. I just moved one client today that was in router mode back to bridge mode because they couldn't do their UPS shipping until we did. Apparently, we may need to move all of them to bridge mode but with hundreds of units out there I really don't like that idea. steve D. Ryan Spott wrote: Why
[WISPA] Finding Available Licensed Frequencies
Is there a tool or resource to find out if certain frequencies are available or who owns them to lease them? I'm particularly looking for 2.5 in my area. Thanks, Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
We have been seeing a couple issues with old Linksys WRT54Gs passing private IP addresses down the PPPoE tunnel. It is almost like the NAT table gets full, or there isn't enough memory to keep it all, then gets corrupt. I wonder if this is similar to what the Tranzeo's are doing. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Well, this definetly has something to do with having P2P installed on any machine behind the CPQ router because I can trigger this 100% of the time by launching limewire. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? So we now have WISPs with both StarOS and Mtik AP's that are having issues with the Router mode of CPQ/SL2. Wonder what Tranzeo would say about this? Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? I do. I will drop it to you offlist. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Do you have any ethreal data you can share? ryan Steve Smith wrote: In our case we are using staros APs. We like to have the CPE set to router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment on their side of our unit at their place. That way we don't care if they change out a piece of equipment. We are having no problem with any Tranzeo equipment that is set to bridge mode. We love the Tranzeo CPQs. Our problems are when the CPQs are in router mode. There is a definite problem that we can replicate 100% of the time. We have eliminated all of the causes of the problem with the exception of the Tranzeo CPQ. All units have 4.0.2 and we do not believe the problem is with an upgrade in the firmware because we can replicate the problem in version 3.6.7 as well. I just moved one client today that was in router mode back to bridge mode because they couldn't do their UPS shipping until we did. Apparently, we may need to move all of them to bridge mode but with hundreds of units out there I really don't like that idea. steve D. Ryan Spott wrote: Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP is the way to go. Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending and receiving wireless data. ryan Rick Kunze wrote: I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years. I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic as mentioned in the thread. I just upgraded one small town to 4.0.2, a couple 6000's and a couple dozen CPE's in router/NAT mode. No calls from any customers . . . everything seems normal. IMO, the Tranzeo stuff has been fine. All AP's however are bridged in my case. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Steve Smith, Chase 3000, PO Box 760, 554 Kramer St., Imperial, NE 69033, 308 882 3000 office, 308 883 3001 cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
Didn't mean to reply to my post, but I forgot to add that I also found P2P software running on the routers we had issues with. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? We have been seeing a couple issues with old Linksys WRT54Gs passing private IP addresses down the PPPoE tunnel. It is almost like the NAT table gets full, or there isn't enough memory to keep it all, then gets corrupt. I wonder if this is similar to what the Tranzeo's are doing. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Well, this definetly has something to do with having P2P installed on any machine behind the CPQ router because I can trigger this 100% of the time by launching limewire. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? So we now have WISPs with both StarOS and Mtik AP's that are having issues with the Router mode of CPQ/SL2. Wonder what Tranzeo would say about this? Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? I do. I will drop it to you offlist. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Do you have any ethreal data you can share? ryan Steve Smith wrote: In our case we are using staros APs. We like to have the CPE set to router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment on their side of our unit at their place. That way we don't care if they change out a piece of equipment. We are having no problem with any Tranzeo equipment that is set to bridge mode. We love the Tranzeo CPQs. Our problems are when the CPQs are in router mode. There is a definite problem that we can replicate 100% of the time. We have eliminated all of the causes of the problem with the exception of the Tranzeo CPQ. All units have 4.0.2 and we do not believe the problem is with an upgrade in the firmware because we can replicate the problem in version 3.6.7 as well. I just moved one client today that was in router mode back to bridge mode because they couldn't do their UPS shipping until we did. Apparently, we may need to move all of them to bridge mode but with hundreds of units out there I really don't like that idea. steve D. Ryan Spott wrote: Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP is the way to go. Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending and receiving wireless data. ryan Rick Kunze wrote: I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years. I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic as mentioned in the thread. I just upgraded one small town to 4.0.2, a couple 6000's and a couple dozen CPE's in router/NAT mode. No calls from any customers . . . everything seems normal. IMO, the Tranzeo stuff has been fine. All AP's however are bridged in my case. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Steve Smith, Chase 3000, PO Box 760, 554 Kramer St., Imperial, NE 69033, 308 882 3000 office, 308 883 3001 cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Finding Available Licensed Frequencies
FCC license database. Forbes Mercy wrote: Is there a tool or resource to find out if certain frequencies are available or who owns them to lease them? I'm particularly looking for 2.5 in my area. Thanks, Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
I have a couple hundred Tranzeo radios (mixed models) on a StarOS WRAP AP network. I have not seen any issues except passing traffic with Belkin routers. -RickG On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Steve Barnesst...@pcswin.com wrote: Yes I have at least 75 clients with Tranzeo's (Router) connecting to StarOS. However, the StarOS AP's that I have are OLD WRAP boards with StarOS version 2.11.0. I had nothing but problems with the WAR boards as AP's due to the crappy HOTSPOT Valemont went to on v3 and lots of problems with VPN clients. begin rant that and Lonnie told me that I was clueless and to go out of business so that someone else that had a clue could take my customers G end Rant We are going to Mikrotik for all AP's due to the above rant. We still use lots of StarOS for Backhauls. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? While I am not certain that it is a Tranzeo issue, I do know that it is something we are able to cause 100% of the time only on Tranzeo units. It is possible that it is something in our configuration but so far we not found anything. Steve Barnes - Do you have any setups where you are have staros for the AP and a Tranzeo unit in router mode at the client? Kurt - we have no evidence that it is related to P2P being installed on the client machine. We see the problem on any type of download regardless of how it is done. Steve Steve Barnes wrote: I have looked into what you are all having issue with. I use a combo of StarOS and Mikrotik. I have one tower that has 49 Connections currently. The AP is a RB411a with a XR2 on V3.17. ALL and I mean ALL clients are Tranzeo CPQ/SL2 with 3.6.7 or 3.5.2 all in router mode only. I have not had any of the issues that this thread started out talking about. If someone is really in need and wants to contact me off-list I would be willing to give them Read-Only access to the AP to look at it. Also if you need various firmware versions for Mikrotik, I have a link to a certain WISPA board members web site that has ALL the versions archived. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Well, this definetly has something to do with having P2P installed on any machine behind the CPQ router because I can trigger this 100% of the time by launching limewire. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? So we now have WISPs with both StarOS and Mtik AP's that are having issues with the Router mode of CPQ/SL2. Wonder what Tranzeo would say about this? Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? I do. I will drop it to you offlist. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Do you have any ethreal data you can share? ryan Steve Smith wrote: In our case we are using staros APs. We like to have the CPE set to router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment on their side of our unit at their place. That way we don't care if they change out a piece of equipment. We are having no problem with any Tranzeo equipment that is set to bridge mode. We love the Tranzeo CPQs. Our problems are when the CPQs are in router mode. There is a definite problem that we can replicate 100% of the time. We have eliminated all of the causes of the problem with the exception of the Tranzeo CPQ. All units have 4.0.2 and we do not believe the problem is with an upgrade in the firmware because we can replicate the problem in version 3.6.7 as well. I just moved one client today that was in router mode back to bridge mode because they couldn't do their UPS shipping until we did. Apparently, we may need to move all of them to bridge mode but with hundreds of units out there I really don't like that idea. steve D. Ryan Spott wrote: Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP is the way to go. Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending and receiving
Re: [WISPA] Finding Available Licensed Frequencies
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp Forbes Mercy wrote: Is there a tool or resource to find out if certain frequencies are available or who owns them to lease them? I'm particularly looking for 2.5 in my area. Thanks, Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
I don't think it is an issue with the Mikrotik. The reason for saying that is that we do not see a problem with any type of system other than the Tranzeo. We still have a few Orinoco based units in the field and they can double NAT without problem. We can also but the CPQ in bridge mode and use the client based wireless router doing double NAT and there are no problems. So far we have tried four different systems at the client locations, Tranzeo, Orinoco, Linksys, Belkin. Only the Tranzeo fails. We have showed Tranzeo all of the configuration settings and have set a unit up so they can log into it an look around. They have declined to log in but have reviewed the configuration and say we have everything correct. Since some of you with very similar setups are not seeing a problem then I am guessing we have something wrong. But we are failing to find what we are missing. steve Kevin Neal wrote: I'm seeding just about every version from 2.9.51 to 3.24 on our servers. Let me know if you need any version in between. -Kevin On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Nealkevinsafel...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seeding just about every version from 2.9.51 to 3.24 on our servers. Let me know if you need any version in between. -Kevin On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Steve Barnesst...@pcswin.com wrote: Yes I have at least 75 clients with Tranzeo's (Router) connecting to StarOS. However, the StarOS AP's that I have are OLD WRAP boards with StarOS version 2.11.0. I had nothing but problems with the WAR boards as AP's due to the crappy HOTSPOT Valemont went to on v3 and lots of problems with VPN clients. begin rant that and Lonnie told me that I was clueless and to go out of business so that someone else that had a clue could take my customers G end Rant We are going to Mikrotik for all AP's due to the above rant. We still use lots of StarOS for Backhauls. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? While I am not certain that it is a Tranzeo issue, I do know that it is something we are able to cause 100% of the time only on Tranzeo units. It is possible that it is something in our configuration but so far we not found anything. Steve Barnes - Do you have any setups where you are have staros for the AP and a Tranzeo unit in router mode at the client? Kurt - we have no evidence that it is related to P2P being installed on the client machine. We see the problem on any type of download regardless of how it is done. Steve Steve Barnes wrote: I have looked into what you are all having issue with. I use a combo of StarOS and Mikrotik. I have one tower that has 49 Connections currently. The AP is a RB411a with a XR2 on V3.17. ALL and I mean ALL clients are Tranzeo CPQ/SL2 with 3.6.7 or 3.5.2 all in router mode only. I have not had any of the issues that this thread started out talking about. If someone is really in need and wants to contact me off-list I would be willing to give them Read-Only access to the AP to look at it. Also if you need various firmware versions for Mikrotik, I have a link to a certain WISPA board members web site that has ALL the versions archived. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Well, this definetly has something to do with having P2P installed on any machine behind the CPQ router because I can trigger this 100% of the time by launching limewire. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? So we now have WISPs with both StarOS and Mtik AP's that are having issues with the Router mode of CPQ/SL2. Wonder what Tranzeo would say about this? Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? I do. I will drop it to you offlist. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Do you have any ethreal data you can share? ryan Steve Smith wrote: In our case we are using staros APs. We like to have the CPE set to router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment on their side of our unit at their place. That way we don't care if
[WISPA] PS2 in stock
Anyone know where or have and ubiquity PS2 in stock? QTY 5-20? Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] PDU/UPS
We've got to purchase some PDU/UPS for new locations, I'm looking to standardize on something into the future. I'd prefer a combo PDU/UPS device with 8 ports providing surge/conditioning, remotely accessable via IP and something that can stand the rough Michigan weather conditions. I've looked at Tripplite's and APC's, and they don't seem to do what I want 100%. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PDU/UPS
When you find something Please share it with the rest of us. I hate what we currently use. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of m...@tc3net.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:53 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] PDU/UPS We've got to purchase some PDU/UPS for new locations, I'm looking to standardize on something into the future. I'd prefer a combo PDU/UPS device with 8 ports providing surge/conditioning, remotely accessable via IP and something that can stand the rough Michigan weather conditions. I've looked at Tripplite's and APC's, and they don't seem to do what I want 100%. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Crazy Weather
Storm #2 rolling in today We've already had three tornado warnings and at least one on the ground within three miles of my house. Amazingly enough - nothing is down other than one site that had a brief power outage. New 9 mile 19ghz link on 2' dishes faded from -48 to -70 for a while and then came back within a few minutes. Seems like we have had rain and lightning almost every night for the last two weeks. I can't help but feel that we are very fortunate that we have only had to replace a couple of radio units since it all started. This is the most rain we have gotten here in probably ten years or so. Anyone else seeing weird weather so far this year? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PDU/UPS
Check out TSI Power. This is an outdoor rated UPS. www.tsipower.com - Original Message Follows - From: m...@tc3net.com To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] PDU/UPS Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:52:35 -0400 (EDT) We've got to purchase some PDU/UPS for new locations, I'm looking to standardize on something into the future. I'd prefer a combo PDU/UPS device with 8 ports providing surge/conditioning, remotely accessable via IP and something that can stand the rough Michigan weather conditions. I've looked at Tripplite's and APC's, and they don't seem to do what I want 100%. --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather
Take a quick look at the weather coming into DFW right now... Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:44 PM To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group; w...@part-15.org Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather Storm #2 rolling in today We've already had three tornado warnings and at least one on the ground within three miles of my house. Amazingly enough - nothing is down other than one site that had a brief power outage. New 9 mile 19ghz link on 2' dishes faded from -48 to -70 for a while and then came back within a few minutes. Seems like we have had rain and lightning almost every night for the last two weeks. I can't help but feel that we are very fortunate that we have only had to replace a couple of radio units since it all started. This is the most rain we have gotten here in probably ten years or so. Anyone else seeing weird weather so far this year? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Crazy Weather
This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the other day. The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why he called it Dark Internet asked what he meant. He said he only has Internet when it is dark out. Well, this call was made during the day and obviously his Internet was not working at the time. The technician could not see the client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE. The customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on the POE. While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am doing, I need to turn on the lights. Miraculously, when he turned on the light switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working again. Imagine that! Rick Harnish From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM To: Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago. Some of the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they are too wet. That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to where it will be too late to plant anything in those fields. Not the usual crops of field or soybeans. They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas. I guess they could always plant hay. Our biggest business customer is a fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be like, if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a couple days then they can't handle all the orders. They do all the custom fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server. I was just out to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I finally had to put a switch inbetween. Not a negotiation problem, just plain strange. Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring. The last few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning storm at Christmas time. We have had tornados and microbursts that have picked up silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn. The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old Tranzeo radio. I also had a customer call today because they went to Florida for the month of March, they have been back since the beginning of April, and their Internet has not worked since then. I actually left a phone message for them in April, they are an older couple anb honestly I was worried they had died or something. Oddly, another Tranzeo customer. All they had to do was power cycle the radio. But waiting 2.5 months before calling? - Original Message - From: Steve D mailto:bigd...@gmail.com To: Motorola Canopy mailto:motor...@wispa.org User Group Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather As I was reading this very thread, the first big boom of thunder of the year shook my office! -Steve D On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com wrote: That sounds like an average afternoon here in Central Florida. We dread the season. Fortunately today has been rather calm..so far. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida#Climate Florida's nickname is the Sunshine State, but severe weather is a common occurrence in the state. Central Florida is known as the lightning capital of the United States, as it experiences more lightning strikes than anywhere else in the country. L Dylan From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Doug Clark Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:52 PM To: Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather Its been thunderstorms and massive rain here, I have been fielding non stop calls with blown routers and ethernet cards :o( ---Original Message--- From: Matt Larsen - Lists mailto:li...@manageisp.com Date: 6/10/2009 3:44:24 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org ; Motorola Canopy mailto:motor...@wispa.org User Group; w...@part-15.org Subject: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather Storm #2 rolling in today We've already had three tornado warnings and at least one on the ground within three miles of my house. Amazingly enough - nothing is down other than one site that had a brief power outage. New 9 mile 19ghz link on 2' dishes faded from -48 to -70 for a while and then came back within a few minutes. Seems like we have had rain and lightning almost every night for the last two weeks. I can't help but feel that we are very fortunate that we have only had to replace a couple of radio units since it all started. This is the most rain we have gotten here in probably ten years or so. Anyone else seeing weird weather so far this year? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
[WISPA] Crazy Weather
Which brings up another good story. An 85 year old lady called in one day and said at 4:50 every day her computer started playing the Battle Hymn of the Republic. She said her children and grandkids had all tried to figure out why this happened and she was totally frustrated. Since she only lived a few miles away, the technician offered to go to her house at 4:45 pm and see what he could figure out when the song started playing. At 4:50 the Battle Hymn started playing. The technician reached into a basket full of odds and ends and pulled out an old alarm clock that was covered by other junk. How do you bill a sweet little old lady for that? You don't but it makes a great story. Rick PS. Which brings up another story.. Another lady called in and said her computer works fine until she sits down at it and then it goes dark. When she gets up from her chair or if she pounds real hard on the desk the computer lights up again. The technician decided to help out by visiting the house. Sure enough, shortly after she sat down, the monitor went dark. She pounded on the desk and all the sudden the monitor came back on. The technician noticed that a cat ran out from underneath the desk when she pounded on it. He then told her to wait a few minutes and see what happens. Sure enough the cat returned to its spot under the desk and the monitor went black again. The technician said pound on the desk again and look at the floor. When she did it, the cat ran out. He said, there is your problem. She told him that the cat likes to lay on her feet when she sits there and she likes it because it keeps her feet warm. Sure enough the monitor cable was laying on the floor in the same spot and the cat must have put enough pressure on it to break the circuit. Another problem solved but you had to be there to figure it out! From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM To: Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago. Some of the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they are too wet. That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to where it will be too late to plant anything in those fields. Not the usual crops of field or soybeans. They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas. I guess they could always plant hay. Our biggest business customer is a fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be like, if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a couple days then they can't handle all the orders. They do all the custom fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server. I was just out to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I finally had to put a switch inbetween. Not a negotiation problem, just plain strange. Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring. The last few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning storm at Christmas time. We have had tornados and microbursts that have picked up silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn. The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old Tranzeo radio. I also had a customer call today because they went to Florida for the month of March, they have been back since the beginning of April, and their Internet has not worked since then. I actually left a phone message for them in April, they are an older couple anb honestly I was worried they had died or something. Oddly, another Tranzeo customer. All they had to do was power cycle the radio. But waiting 2.5 months before calling? - Original Message - From: Steve D mailto:bigd...@gmail.com To: Motorola Canopy mailto:motor...@wispa.org User Group Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather As I was reading this very thread, the first big boom of thunder of the year shook my office! -Steve D On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com wrote: That sounds like an average afternoon here in Central Florida. We dread the season. Fortunately today has been rather calm..so far. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida#Climate Florida's nickname is the Sunshine State, but severe weather is a common occurrence in the state. Central Florida is known as the lightning capital of the United States, as it experiences more lightning strikes than anywhere else in the country. L Dylan From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Doug Clark Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:52 PM To: Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather Its been thunderstorms and massive rain here, I have been fielding non stop calls with blown routers and ethernet cards :o( ---Original Message---
Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather - Strange Tech Support
LOL. I had several support calls today. I tried to trouble shoot, but not the usual problems. My Dude Server started pinging away today and sending messages to my Blackberry around noon. Customers were going down left and right. No storms in the area, the AP was up and running, no obvious problems. So we jumped into the jeep and headed for the highrise that this AP was on which several businesses connect to. All the while customers connecting and disconnecting. Upon approaching the end of our 57 mile drive we see the highrise looming in the background with a 200'+ crane standing in front of our radio lifting an AC off the roof. I was relieved, but a bit upset with the property management. Just goes to show you, every support call can be the unexpected. Victoria Proffer CEO StLouisBroadband.com ShowMeBroadband.com 314.974.5600 SBA Certified WOSB -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the other day. The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why he called it Dark Internet asked what he meant. He said he only has Internet when it is dark out. Well, this call was made during the day and obviously his Internet was not working at the time. The technician could not see the client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE. The customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on the POE. While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am doing, I need to turn on the lights. Miraculously, when he turned on the light switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working again. Imagine that! Rick Harnish From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM To: Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago. Some of the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they are too wet. That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to where it will be too late to plant anything in those fields. Not the usual crops of field or soybeans. They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas. I guess they could always plant hay. Our biggest business customer is a fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be like, if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a couple days then they can't handle all the orders. They do all the custom fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server. I was just out to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I finally had to put a switch inbetween. Not a negotiation problem, just plain strange. Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring. The last few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning storm at Christmas time. We have had tornados and microbursts that have picked up silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn. The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old Tranzeo radio. I also had a customer call today because they went to Florida for the month of March, they have been back since the beginning of April, and their Internet has not worked since then. I actually left a phone message for them in April, they are an older couple anb honestly I was worried they had died or something. Oddly, another Tranzeo customer. All they had to do was power cycle the radio. But waiting 2.5 months before calling? - Original Message - From: Steve D mailto:bigd...@gmail.com To: Motorola Canopy mailto:motor...@wispa.org User Group Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather As I was reading this very thread, the first big boom of thunder of the year shook my office! -Steve D On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com wrote: That sounds like an average afternoon here in Central Florida. We dread the season. Fortunately today has been rather calm..so far. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida#Climate Florida's nickname is the Sunshine State, but severe weather is a common occurrence in the state. Central Florida is known as the lightning capital of the United States, as it experiences more lightning strikes than anywhere else in the country. L Dylan From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Doug Clark Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:52 PM To: Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather Its been thunderstorms and massive rain here, I have been fielding non stop calls with blown routers and ethernet cards :o(
Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather
Hasn't stop raining here in 3 weeks! Thinking of building an ark out of old Breezecom radios :-) -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:43:31 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; Motorola Canopy User Groupmotor...@wispa.org; w...@part-15.org Subject: [WISPA] Crazy Weather Storm #2 rolling in today We've already had three tornado warnings and at least one on the ground within three miles of my house. Amazingly enough - nothing is down other than one site that had a brief power outage. New 9 mile 19ghz link on 2' dishes faded from -48 to -70 for a while and then came back within a few minutes. Seems like we have had rain and lightning almost every night for the last two weeks. I can't help but feel that we are very fortunate that we have only had to replace a couple of radio units since it all started. This is the most rain we have gotten here in probably ten years or so. Anyone else seeing weird weather so far this year? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Rad Airmux 200 Login
OK Boys and Girls Anyone know where I can get a copy of Management Software for this baby. I have a new customer with an existing link that is giving them problems and they don't have it. I am told it is the only way to config and look at the radio. Is this true? Any help would be appreciated. Offlist if you prefer. Tnx. Bob lakel...@gbcx.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crazy Weather
Been there, done that! I hate those places that have half an outlet wired to a switch! Rick Harnish wrote: This isn't weather related, but we had an interesting tech call the other day. The customer said he had Dark Internet, the technician, curious to why he called it Dark Internet asked what he meant. He said he only has Internet when it is dark out. Well, this call was made during the day and obviously his Internet was not working at the time. The technician could not see the client radio from the AP so he had him check the power supply and POE. The customer said it was plugged into the wall but there was no light on the POE. While troubleshooting, the customer said I can't see what I am doing, I need to turn on the lights. Miraculously, when he turned on the light switch, the POE light came on and his Internet service started working again. Imagine that! Rick Harnish From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:27 PM To: Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather This has been the wettest spring in memory here west of Chicago. Some of the farmers still have not been able to work their fields because they are too wet. That makes them over a month late to plant, it's getting to where it will be too late to plant anything in those fields. Not the usual crops of field or soybeans. They are starting to talk sweet corn or limas. I guess they could always plant hay. Our biggest business customer is a fertilizer dealer and they don't know day to day what things will be like, if it rains the farmers don't spread fertilizer, if it is dry for a couple days then they can't handle all the orders. They do all the custom fertilizer mixing via VPN to a central application server. I was just out to a location where their PIX501 stopped talking to the Canopy SM, I finally had to put a switch inbetween. Not a negotiation problem, just plain strange. Unfortunately lightning and tornados are not limited to spring. The last few years we have been hit in June/July, even a really bad lightning storm at Christmas time. We have had tornados and microbursts that have picked up silos and dropped them on the opposite side of a barn. The storm a couple days ago I had one customer router blow, and one old Tranzeo radio. I also had a customer call today because they went to Florida for the month of March, they have been back since the beginning of April, and their Internet has not worked since then. I actually left a phone message for them in April, they are an older couple anb honestly I was worried they had died or something. Oddly, another Tranzeo customer. All they had to do was power cycle the radio. But waiting 2.5 months before calling? - Original Message - From: Steve D mailto:bigd...@gmail.com To: Motorola Canopy mailto:motor...@wispa.org User Group Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather As I was reading this very thread, the first big boom of thunder of the year shook my office! -Steve D On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com wrote: That sounds like an average afternoon here in Central Florida. We dread "the season". Fortunately today has been rather calm..so far. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida#Climate "Florida's nickname is the "Sunshine State", but severe weather is a common occurrence in the state. Central Florida is known as the lightning capital of the United States, as it experiences more lightning strikes than anywhere else in the country." L Dylan From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Doug Clark Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:52 PM To: Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather Its been thunderstorms and massive rain here, I have been fielding non stop calls with blown routers and ethernet cards :o( ---Original Message--- From: Matt Larsen - Lists mailto:li...@manageisp.com Date: 6/10/2009 3:44:24 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org ; Motorola Canopy mailto:motor...@wispa.org User Group; w...@part-15.org Subject: [Motorola II] Crazy Weather Storm #2 rolling in today We've already had three tornado warnings and at least one on the ground within three miles of my house. Amazingly enough - nothing is down other than one site that had a brief power outage. New 9 mile 19ghz link on 2' dishes faded from -48 to -70 for a while and then came back within a few minutes. Seems like we have had rain and lightning almost every night for the last two weeks. I can't help but feel that we are very fortunate that we have only had to replace a couple of radio units since it all started. This is the most rain we have gotten here in probably ten years or so. Anyone else seeing weird weather so far this year?
Re: [WISPA] Rad Airmux 200 Login
Pretty sure this is what you're after... http://helium.imaginenetworksllc.com/FA4800 Manager 1[1].620.zip Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: OK Boys and Girls Anyone know where I can get a copy of Management Software for this baby. I have a new customer with an existing link that is giving them problems and they don't have it. I am told it is the only way to config and look at the radio. Is this true? Any help would be appreciated. Offlist if you prefer. Tnx. Bob lakel...@gbcx.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rad Airmux 200 Login
Only Windows would have so many dumb characters and spaces... Softlink: http://helium.imaginenetworksllc.com/ceragonairmuxsoftware.zip Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Pretty sure this is what you're after... http://helium.imaginenetworksllc.com/FA4800 Manager 1[1].620.zip Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: OK Boys and Girls Anyone know where I can get a copy of Management Software for this baby. I have a new customer with an existing link that is giving them problems and they don't have it. I am told it is the only way to config and look at the radio. Is this true? Any help would be appreciated. Offlist if you prefer. Tnx. Bob lakel...@gbcx.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rad Airmux 200 Login
Ya I love sending three emails to get one response - SORRY =( To my knowledge, it is the only option. I know there is no HTTP (at least HTML, don't know how the software communicates) or telnet/ssh interface. Software is decent, but is not nearly good enough to excuse the need for a Windows only executable that you can't download unless you jump through hoops or keep a hold of from the CD with the purchase of a new unit. Plus it is a bit confusing IMO. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Only Windows would have so many dumb characters and spaces... Softlink: http://helium.imaginenetworksllc.com/ceragonairmuxsoftware.zip Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Pretty sure this is what you're after... http://helium.imaginenetworksllc.com/FA4800 Manager 1[1].620.zip Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.netwrote: OK Boys and Girls Anyone know where I can get a copy of Management Software for this baby. I have a new customer with an existing link that is giving them problems and they don't have it. I am told it is the only way to config and look at the radio. Is this true? Any help would be appreciated. Offlist if you prefer. Tnx. Bob lakel...@gbcx.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact
We're installing a Dragonwave Horizon Compact system and I'm not quite sure how to ground it. First off, this unit has dual copper ethernets (1 for PoE/Data, 1 for Management). The unit is completely outside powered via PoE. We know how to ground the radio above, and the cat5 below at the PoE / Lightning Arrestor. What we don't know is what to do with the ethernet cable above. We're using the Belden 7919A outdoor shielded cable, as recommended by the Dragonwave Quick Reference Guide. Can someone tell me if the ethernet cables need to be grounded near the radio at the top of the tower? This is on a water tower, btw, and we have a ground cable going from the ground rod directly to the radio (#6, about 150'). Other side is on a high school rooftop, grounded directly to a rod (#6, about 200'). Again, not sure what to do with the radio-side cat5 cable. Any help would be appreciated, as we're to have this project completed by Friday and into testing phase. Thanks... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact
The shield on the STP cables that DragonWave supplies are grounded via the shielded RJ45 on the radio side, the shield is left ungrounded on the PoE side. Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact We're installing a Dragonwave Horizon Compact system and I'm not quite sure how to ground it. First off, this unit has dual copper ethernets (1 for PoE/Data, 1 for Management). The unit is completely outside powered via PoE. We know how to ground the radio above, and the cat5 below at the PoE / Lightning Arrestor. What we don't know is what to do with the ethernet cable above. We're using the Belden 7919A outdoor shielded cable, as recommended by the Dragonwave Quick Reference Guide. Can someone tell me if the ethernet cables need to be grounded near the radio at the top of the tower? This is on a water tower, btw, and we have a ground cable going from the ground rod directly to the radio (#6, about 150'). Other side is on a high school rooftop, grounded directly to a rod (#6, about 200'). Again, not sure what to do with the radio-side cat5 cable. Any help would be appreciated, as we're to have this project completed by Friday and into testing phase. Thanks... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact
Mark... I've never seen a recommendation from Dragonwave to ground the Ethernet cable at the top. For all of the links I have installed... I never have... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Grounding Dragonwave Horizon Compact We're installing a Dragonwave Horizon Compact system and I'm not quite sure how to ground it. First off, this unit has dual copper ethernets (1 for PoE/Data, 1 for Management). The unit is completely outside powered via PoE. We know how to ground the radio above, and the cat5 below at the PoE / Lightning Arrestor. What we don't know is what to do with the ethernet cable above. We're using the Belden 7919A outdoor shielded cable, as recommended by the Dragonwave Quick Reference Guide. Can someone tell me if the ethernet cables need to be grounded near the radio at the top of the tower? This is on a water tower, btw, and we have a ground cable going from the ground rod directly to the radio (#6, about 150'). Other side is on a high school rooftop, grounded directly to a rod (#6, about 200'). Again, not sure what to do with the radio-side cat5 cable. Any help would be appreciated, as we're to have this project completed by Friday and into testing phase. Thanks... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
