Re: [WISPA] Australian regulatory concerns...
Title: Charles Galeano - Government Endorsed Supplier G'day Bradley, I can help here. Australian regs are similar to the USA as follows, 2.4Ghz 11 channels 36dB EIRP max 5.8Ghz 4 channels 36dB EIRP max, higher power for specific locations away from the high density populations. 5.470Ghz to 5.650Ghz many channels, 30dB EIRP max with DFS and TPC enabled, some exemptions for lower power 900Mhz is just 916 to 928Mhz allowed with 30dB max We also have 60Ghz exempt within a certain channel size/range plus 70/80Ghz site licensed at little money. www.acma.gov.au site has more detail, just tricky to find. Offlist if you need more detail from me. regards Graham Bradley D. Thornton wrote: have a tentative offer to to some buildout in Victoria Australia, pending the completion of a local project here. But I don't know where to look for their laws regarding unlicensed spectrum, if there is any. Does anyone have any pointers/links for me to research? -- Graham Goldfinch - Phone: +61 2 9899 5700 Fax: +61 2 9634 1432 Communicate without Boundaries – 61-(0)405 52 52 51 Skype - grahamgskype ComNet Solutions - Government Endorsed Supplier, GITC & QA Certified web: www.comnet.com.au *** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use
lol That stuff is GREAT!!! Seriously, I love 5.3 gig for short ptp links. marlon - Original Message - From: "Tom Sharples" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use > Then, use some of that wifi spray to prevent future use of the frequency. > > Tom S. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Unger" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:55 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use > > >> Use a frequency that your spectrum analyzer indicates is NOT in use. >> >> richard sterne wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What >>> frequencies should I avoid? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. >> Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" >> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 >> www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com >> Twitter - "wireless_jack" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Australian regulatory concerns...
have a tentative offer to to some buildout in Victoria Australia, pending the completion of a local project here. But I don't know where to look for their laws regarding unlicensed spectrum, if there is any. Does anyone have any pointers/links for me to research? -- Bradley D. Thornton Manager Network Services NorthTech Computer TEL: +1.760.666.2703 http://NorthTech.US WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use
Then, use some of that wifi spray to prevent future use of the frequency. Tom S. - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use > Use a frequency that your spectrum analyzer indicates is NOT in use. > > richard sterne wrote: >> Hello all, >> I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What >> frequencies should I avoid? >> >> Thanks >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > -- > Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. > Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" > Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 > www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com > Twitter - "wireless_jack" > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 MHhz accross water
Yep, I've seen that sort of thing. Here's 5.8 Alvarion VL over about 2-3 miles of water. One end is 250ASL on a tower 1/4 from the ocean, the other end is a couple hundred feet from the ocean and probably 50' ASL. The red curve is the SNR. The grey line is the transmit power (ATPC enabled). http://www.midcoast.com/~jp/water58.png Here's 2.4 Alvarion BA-II over water. One end is 20' ASL and 100' from the water, the other is 700' from the water and 100' ASL. Link is about 4 miles. http://www.midcoast.com/~jp/water24.png On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 12:03:31PM -0400, Jeremy Parr wrote: > 2009/7/4 jp : > > 900 works better over water than 2.4 or 5.8. 5.8 is pretty unusable if > > the antenna is near the water under certain conditions. We usually have > > to keep the antennas back off the shore to make it work. We see lots of > > multipath destructive interference fluctuate with the tides on the > > ocean. Worst case is about a 40db variation. 10-20 db is common with > > 2.4. 900 is the least affected. > > > > You should use SNMP to graph signal of links over water to evaluate how > > it is performing in your test. > > This is a 5.8ghz Alvarion VL across four miles of water. You can > clearly see where the tide changes. > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use
Use a frequency that your spectrum analyzer indicates is NOT in use. richard sterne wrote: > Hello all, > I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What > frequencies should I avoid? > > Thanks > > Richard > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Twitter - "wireless_jack" WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use
The distance is 3.5 Km or 2.2 Miles Richard 2009/7/5 > If you can you should use the 5.4 band. Second option is 5.3 and then 5.8 > GHz. You don't say the distance so its hard to say to use other options > > In urban areas we use large antennas and lower the power to narrow the > beamwidth. > > In addition I would use horizontal as there are many consumer products on > 5.8 that use vertical > > Good luck > > Bob > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: richard sterne > > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:59:02 > To: > Subject: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use > > > Hello all, > I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What > frequencies should I avoid? > > Thanks > > Richard > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use
If you can you should use the 5.4 band. Second option is 5.3 and then 5.8 GHz. You don't say the distance so its hard to say to use other options In urban areas we use large antennas and lower the power to narrow the beamwidth. In addition I would use horizontal as there are many consumer products on 5.8 that use vertical Good luck Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: richard sterne Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:59:02 To: Subject: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use Hello all, I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What frequencies should I avoid? Thanks Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] What frequencies not to use
Hello all, I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What frequencies should I avoid? Thanks Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/