Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP.
They do. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 2:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP. H, if we're the ones using the product, perhaps they should monitor this list... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP. Perhaps I misspoke in saying Eje and other members isn't a great source of information because he's been a great value of information and certainly knows his stuff. I was pointing out that it's great to hear from the 'horses mouth' whats happening and Ubiquiti really likes the feedback directly. They don't monitor these lists so sometimes valuable input given here doesn't reach them, that's all. Forbes On 3/4/2010 8:17 PM, RickG wrote: LOL, I'd trust Eje's info over some of the things I've seen in the forum :) -RickG On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Eje Gustafssone...@wisp-router.com wrote: Not sure if I should take offense to this or not. I assume you are aware what conjecture is and that the statement about unproven proposition is not directly related to my e-mail? Because if it is then you need to withdraw this statement. As you might be aware WISP-Router whom I represent is one of Ubiquiti's US distributors (one out of 4). When I say something about Ubiquiti I tend to know what I'm talking about because I had word from the horses mouth. Find anything that I said in my message that is unproven based on anything that been posted on the Ubiquiti forum. You will not be able to find anything. Same info I just gave is on the forum from either Ben or Mike. Also I had a very long working relationship with Ubiquiti (we started out selling their SR2 and SR5 cards when that was their only product and was recipients of cards from the first mass production run). Ubiquiti say product supposed to be available by end of month that means most of the time product is available for pickup in China at the beginning of the following month then you have 1-2 weeks before you have product if they are shipped airfreight, economically not feasible for most of their products. PowerBridgeM5 will probably weight wise be around same weight as a PowerStation so airfreight cost would be about $10-$12 per unit at least. So products will be sea freight which means 4-6 weeks after they are ready from MFG until they are in Distributors hands. First mass production run have always been very limited qty. Order 1k unit and get maybe 200 to 500. Order 2k and you might get 500. Now on the other hand if you just threw out a big word without truly understand it's meaning well so be it. / Eje Gustafsson WISP-Router, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP. If you really want to know first hand information on Ubiquiti you should join a forum at ubnt.com, most things on here are conjecture. On 3/4/2010 1:03 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: Ahh no Powerbridges yet. Got no ETA really yet on those even. Not even gotten a Datasheet for it and don't look like Ubiquiti even released the datasheet for it eiter. The new stuff the announced earlier this week supposed to be available in China towards the end of this month so don't expect any of these new products to be available in anything but extremely low quantities until earliest end of April. / Eje Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP. Eje, Got an ETA on Powerbridges? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:13 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP. Either or. Any of the Ubiquiti products can be used as a CPE or a AP don't matter no price difference or different specific hardware to function as a CPE (what canopy call SM) or a AP. / Eje WISP-Router, Inc. Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:34 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquity Pico2HP. Can the Ubiquity Pico2HP be used as a SM or is it only an AP? The doc's do not say for sure. TIA, Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out
Re: [WISPA] Hotel
I think they use DirectWay but it could be another, either way, I had to fight it. Spectrum analyzer showed almost the entire band being used and if we switched on in the middle of it the satellite link would go down. Channel one keeps the both of us happy in these spots. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralphlists Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:17 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Direcway, as are just about all satellite services these days, is on Ku band- not 2.5 GHz. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:55 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel The problem I've had from the hotels is that the ones I deal with have a reservation system on the 2 way Satellite system running at 2.5ghz. We would either have internet and no satellite or satellite and no internet. Was never able to spread the channels around. Was tough finding the right channel for long term even with the analyzer. One hotel had finally gone from that to internet based reservations but the others are still on the old direct way setup. Channel 1 seems to be the one I can use to keep from the satellite. Bob0 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Hmmm. I guess I'm not surprised by that. When I'm at a hotel and the internet sucks I just figure that that's because I'm in a hotel. I've never called to complain. You can sure see that happen out in the field though! marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Same ssid different channels...hotels anywhere from 2 to 12 APs. Never seen anyone flip between two of them too much so that it causes a complaint. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Actually I've had them all set up on the same SSID with same channel but these are smaller 2 floor hotels. Never get any complaints like that caused by the system, always the client PC. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel I'd NOT use all of them on the same channel and the same ssid. Computers in boarder line coverage zones will flip flop between systems and you'll get complaints from the slow speeds etc. You'll also cause interference to the other systems when one ding bat downloads a movie and chews up a lot of capacity. marlon - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:33 AM Subject: [WISPA] Hotel I have a hotel that it takes 3 AP to cover well. I am going to use 3 MT411 all wired back to a RB450 router for hotspot. I plan to set all the 411 to bridged and all the same channel and SSID. Is this the best way. Is there any reason to do WDS? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
[WISPA] USF Changes
FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies tend to rely heavily on both funding sources. The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all Americans. Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum available for mobile broadband connections by letting television broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves. Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while others might be up to the FCC to implement. Yahoo article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_universal_service;_ylt=AgSGtpiLKKQbXooR3LKvT.cPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTMzNGcwMmcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDEwMDMwNS9hcF9vbl9oaV90ZS91c190ZWNfZmNjX3VuaXZlcnNhbF9zZXJ2aWNlBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5bl90b21ic3RvbmUEc2xrA2ZjY3RvcHJvcG9zZQ-- -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor
By the time the oil light, also called one of the idiot lights of the dashboard come on, or even the oil gauge, if so equipped shows danger, it may already be to late. Having been in the auto service sector before our Internet days, we saw this all too often. Well gee, the light just came on! Frank Muto - Original Message - From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor I am surprised that your oil pressure gauge or oil light did not come on before that happened... Forbes Mercy wrote: I just want to share this with you, right now when you finish reading this put down the keyboard, walk outside and check the oil levels in all of your fleet. I kept threatening to get a truck serviced and kept procrastinating, today it ran out of oil and froze up. Perfectly good truck - gone. So you've read enough, now go do it, you'll thank yourself later. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
When USF reform comes for broadband connections in rural markets, say goodbye to the competitive advantage WISP's have in sparse population areas. Going to be hard to compete against fiber speeds and capacity. Rural Telco's will build fiber to the home everywhere if they get subsidies like they do with voice lines..makes a huge difference in the business model when you have a big chunk of additional revenue per user EVERY MONTH, and the fact that you can count on the fiber infrastructure lasting 20 to 30 yearshard to compete against that. If they only allow one carrier per market to receive the USF funds, guess who is going to get that? Certainly not the WISP's. Brian -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] USF Changes FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies tend to rely heavily on both funding sources. The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all Americans. Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum available for mobile broadband connections by letting television broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves. Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while others might be up to the FCC to implement. Yahoo article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_universal_service ;_ylt=AgSGtpiLKKQbXooR3LKvT.cPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTMzNGcwMmcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDEw MDMwNS9hcF9vbl9oaV90ZS91c190ZWNfZmNjX3VuaXZlcnNhbF9zZXJ2aWNlBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5 bl90b21ic3RvbmUEc2xrA2ZjY3RvcHJvcG9zZQ-- -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875
Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
I don't agree. They are saying the new fund would include every type of high-speed service and possibly even allow multiple providers in the same area. Wireless providers have several advantages: Quick deployment: We have put up brand new tower locations (including backhaul, AP's, UPS, etc.) in less than a week. (This is start to finish, including finding the location, installing all equipment, and hooking up new customers). Local service and support: No 800 numbers. No talking to someone across the country (or world). Quick installation for each customer: We can have customers up and going within 1 business day (when required). Typical fiber deployment is 30-60 days. Getting a few extra dollars to pay for each rural connection isn't going to change any of that... the fiber guys will still have to take out a loan to install each customer... while we continue to be profitable on each customer from day 1. Travis Microserv Brian Webster wrote: When USF reform comes for broadband connections in rural markets, say goodbye to the competitive advantage WISP's have in sparse population areas. Going to be hard to compete against fiber speeds and capacity. Rural Telco's will build fiber to the home everywhere if they get subsidies like they do with voice lines..makes a huge difference in the business model when you have a big chunk of additional revenue per user EVERY MONTH, and the fact that you can count on the fiber infrastructure lasting 20 to 30 yearshard to compete against that. If they only allow one carrier per market to receive the USF funds, guess who is going to get that? Certainly not the WISP's. Brian -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] USF Changes FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls.
Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor
Yeah, if the oil light is on because the oil pump is sucking air the pressure has already dropped so low that you're probably starting to hurt your bearings. Greg On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Frank Muto wrote: By the time the oil light, also called one of the idiot lights of the dashboard come on, or even the oil gauge, if so equipped shows danger, it may already be to late. Having been in the auto service sector before our Internet days, we saw this all too often. Well gee, the light just came on! Frank Muto - Original Message - From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor I am surprised that your oil pressure gauge or oil light did not come on before that happened... Forbes Mercy wrote: I just want to share this with you, right now when you finish reading this put down the keyboard, walk outside and check the oil levels in all of your fleet. I kept threatening to get a truck serviced and kept procrastinating, today it ran out of oil and froze up. Perfectly good truck - gone. So you've read enough, now go do it, you'll thank yourself later. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor
We trade service with a couple of rural auto service guys (small outfits) to get all of our oil changes, brake jobs, etc. Makes us think about it when their bill is getting larger. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 1702 W. 2nd Ave Suite A Eugene, OR 97402 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor That sucks :( I'm getting my oil changed and washtomorrow already! On 3/4/10, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: That sucks. thanks for the reminder. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Do yourself a favor I just want to share this with you, right now when you finish reading this put down the keyboard, walk outside and check the oil levels in all of your fleet. I kept threatening to get a truck serviced and kept procrastinating, today it ran out of oil and froze up. Perfectly good truck - gone. So you've read enough, now go do it, you'll thank yourself later. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with me. As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant afford all this? -RickG On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies tend to rely heavily on both funding sources. The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all Americans. Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum available for mobile broadband connections by letting television broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves. Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while others might be up to the FCC to implement. Yahoo article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_universal_service;_ylt=AgSGtpiLKKQbXooR3LKvT.cPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTMzNGcwMmcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDEwMDMwNS9hcF9vbl9oaV90ZS91c190ZWNfZmNjX3VuaXZlcnNhbF9zZXJ2aWNlBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5bl90b21ic3RvbmUEc2xrA2ZjY3RvcHJvcG9zZQ-- -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
Exactly. -- Original Message -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:50:17 -0500 As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with me. As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant afford all this? -RickG On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies tend to rely heavily on both funding sources. The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all Americans. Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum available for mobile broadband connections by letting television broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves. Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while others might be up to the FCC to implement. Yahoo article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_universal_service;_ylt=AgSGtpiLKKQbXooR3LKvT.cPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTMzNGcwMmcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDEwMDMwNS9hcF9vbl9oaV90ZS91c190ZWNfZmNjX3VuaXZlcnNhbF9zZXJ2aWNlBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5bl90b21ic3RvbmUEc2xrA2ZjY3RvcHJvcG9zZQ-- -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
On Mar 6, 2010, at 2:50 PM, RickG wrote: As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with me. As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant afford all this? Ah, but we CAN afford it. It doesn't come from general tax funds but from the taxes on telecommunications services. It's got a specific source and a specific destination, basically. There is some hope here though-they've been talking about repurposing the USF for nearly a decade and it's never happened. I do think there is a higher chance of it coming to pass this time around, but it's hit a brick wall before so I would not call it a done deal either. Chuck -RickG On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies tend to rely heavily on both funding sources. The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all Americans. Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum available for mobile broadband connections by letting television broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves. Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while others might be up to the FCC to implement. Yahoo article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_universal_service;_ylt=AgSGtpiLKKQbXooR3LKvT.cPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTMzNGcwMmcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDEwMDMwNS9hcF9vbl9oaV90ZS91c190ZWNfZmNjX3VuaXZlcnNhbF9zZXJ2aWNlBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5bl90b21ic3RvbmUEc2xrA2ZjY3RvcHJvcG9zZQ-- -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036
[WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
Hey guys, I am thinking about replacing my X86 PC running MT with a routerboard. My current setup is a P4 1.7Ghz with 256 Meg Ram. I am routing 7.5 Mbit, soon to be 10 Mbit. I have 183 filter rules, 76 Mangles, and 215 Simple queues. I do some filters with L7 and I have no DHCP server running. CPU usage averages %20 - %25 and Mem averages around 50 Meg. Are there routerboards available that can handle what I have running now and have some room for growth in the future? I need at least 4 Ethernet ports and do not need wireless at all. Suggestions? Thanks, Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
A RB450G should be fine for what you need. Or use an RB493AH if you need more ports. If you can wait a couple months, the new RB1100 is coming out which looks pretty sweet. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
493 only has 128M RAM. Might want a little more. RB800 only has 3 ports, but supports the new RB816 for a total of 19 ports and has a little more horsepower than the 4xxx cards. RB1000 has 4 ports and more horsepower, but I don't think it is expandable. can...@believewireless.net wrote: A RB450G should be fine for what you need. Or use an RB493AH if you need more ports. If you can wait a couple months, the new RB1100 is coming out which looks pretty sweet. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
All of those are steps down from his current P4 based system. The only way to get more performance is to build your own X86 system. Travis Microserv can...@believewireless.net wrote: A RB450G should be fine for what you need. Or use an RB493AH if you need more ports. If you can wait a couple months, the new RB1100 is coming out which looks pretty sweet. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
And to add, I thought the Broadband Stimulus was to make more broadband available. The telco's have everything already handed to them and have not done it in years. Now the gov't wants to make this available only to one provider in a given area? Who do you think will get that? WTH? I think we need to vote every elected person out of office now! Oh wait, money talks! Scottie -- Original Message -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:50:17 -0500 As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with me. As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant afford all this? -RickG On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies tend to rely heavily on both funding sources. The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all Americans. Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum available for mobile broadband connections by letting television broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves. Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while others might be up to the FCC to implement. Yahoo article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_universal_service;_ylt=AgSGtpiLKKQbXooR3LKvT.cPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTMzNGcwMmcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDEwMDMwNS9hcF9vbl9oaV90ZS91c190ZWNfZmNjX3VuaXZlcnNhbF9zZXJ2aWNlBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5bl90b21ic3RvbmUEc2xrA2ZjY3RvcHJvcG9zZQ-- -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875
Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
But USF comes from the ratepayers of the telecom services, not tax dollars. Brian -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF Changes As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with me. As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant afford all this? -RickG On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies tend to rely heavily on both funding sources. The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all Americans. Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum available for mobile broadband connections by letting television broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves. Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while others might be up to the FCC to implement. Yahoo article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_universal_service ;_ylt=AgSGtpiLKKQbXooR3LKvT.cPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTMzNGcwMmcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDEw MDMwNS9hcF9vbl9oaV90ZS91c190ZWNfZmNjX3VuaXZlcnNhbF9zZXJ2aWNlBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5 bl90b21ic3RvbmUEc2xrA2ZjY3RvcHJvcG9zZQ-- -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
I posted this to Butch's MT list too. To answer a few questions. It is a full P4, not Celeron. I forgot to mention a few things that come to mind. I am using it as DNS server and redirecting(via NAT) all DNS activity through the MT to use the MT DNS cache. I am not using web proxy. At the moment it has a Prizm card for wireless customers(10 total), but I am getting rid of that and going to a BulletM2HP. I am needing 1 of the 4 ports for this. I would like to keep these below $250. I can buy regular x86 much more powerful than this for less money. The reason for trying to go to routerboards is to have standbys ready to go with minimal configuration after copying configs over and setting them up. The other reason is to get rid of the mechanical component of the hard drive...a mistake I made from the beginning. The last reason is to cover all the separate things that can go wrong in an X86 compared to a routerboard. Thanks for all the replies and I am evaluating all of them. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:35:10 -0500 493 only has 128M RAM. Might want a little more. RB800 only has 3 ports, but supports the new RB816 for a total of 19 ports and has a little more horsepower than the 4xxx cards. RB1000 has 4 ports and more horsepower, but I don't think it is expandable. can...@believewireless.net wrote: A RB450G should be fine for what you need. Or use an RB493AH if you need more ports. If you can wait a couple months, the new RB1100 is coming out which looks pretty sweet. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
On Mar 6, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote: And to add, I thought the Broadband Stimulus was to make more broadband available. The telco's have everything already handed to them and have not done it in years. Now the gov't wants to make this available only to one provider in a given area? Who do you think will get that? WTH? I think we need to vote every elected person out of office now! Oh wait, money talks! They just get replaced by someone else who does the same thing for essentially the same reasons (ie, our political system doesn't reward them for taking care of folks like us, essentially). So what's the point of bothering to vote them out of office? Chuck Scottie -- Original Message -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:50:17 -0500 As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with me. As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant afford all this? -RickG On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies tend to rely heavily on both funding sources. The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all Americans. Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum available for mobile broadband connections by letting television broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves. Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while others might be up to the FCC to implement. Yahoo article:
Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote: And to add, I thought the Broadband Stimulus was to make more broadband available. The telco's have everything already handed to them and have not done it in years. Now the gov't wants to make this available only to one provider in a given area? Who do you think will get that? WTH? I think we need to vote every elected person out of office now! Oh wait, money talks! They just get replaced by someone else who does the same thing for essentially the same reasons (ie, our political system doesn't reward them for taking care of folks like us, essentially). So what's the point of bothering to vote them out of office? Instead we should vote them and the companies that pay them out of life. Chuck Scottie -- Original Message -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:50:17 -0500 As a WISP, I resent the idea that my tax dollars may be used to compete with me. As a taxpayer, at what point will the government realize we cant afford all this? -RickG On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies tend to rely heavily on both funding sources. The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all Americans. Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum available for mobile broadband connections by letting television broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves.
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 18:25 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote: I am thinking about replacing my X86 PC running MT with a routerboard. My current setup is a P4 1.7Ghz with 256 Meg Ram. I am routing 7.5 Mbit, soon to be 10 Mbit. I have 183 filter rules, 76 Mangles, and 215 Simple queues. I do some filters with L7 and I have no DHCP server running. CPU usage averages %20 - %25 and Mem averages around 50 Meg. If you're gonna go Routerboard, then RB1000 (at a minimum) or the new, not, yet available, RB1100. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
RB-1000 seems to fit you requirements, but not your $250 budget as it costs $685. As you told you have a 4-port requirement, my guess is that you could split the inbounds into 2 5-port RB-450G for $129 each. The number of rules+queues is the issue here. I've seen RB450G routing 100Mbps per direction (and that's not the limit, 100 Mbps was the test setup limit), with connection tracking on but only 10 filter+mangle rules and no queues; for a hotspot application, 100 users is what a RB450G could handle. Rubens On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: Hey guys, I am thinking about replacing my X86 PC running MT with a routerboard. My current setup is a P4 1.7Ghz with 256 Meg Ram. I am routing 7.5 Mbit, soon to be 10 Mbit. I have 183 filter rules, 76 Mangles, and 215 Simple queues. I do some filters with L7 and I have no DHCP server running. CPU usage averages %20 - %25 and Mem averages around 50 Meg. Are there routerboards available that can handle what I have running now and have some room for growth in the future? I need at least 4 Ethernet ports and do not need wireless at all. Suggestions? Thanks, Scottie Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
Geesh...the RB1100 is a nice step in the right direction, but still no USB port. No USB port - no way to monitor the APC UPS. sigh Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 9:41 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 18:25 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote: I am thinking about replacing my X86 PC running MT with a routerboard. My current setup is a P4 1.7Ghz with 256 Meg Ram. I am routing 7.5 Mbit, soon to be 10 Mbit. I have 183 filter rules, 76 Mangles, and 215 Simple queues. I do some filters with L7 and I have no DHCP server running. CPU usage averages %20 - %25 and Mem averages around 50 Meg. If you're gonna go Routerboard, then RB1000 (at a minimum) or the new, not, yet available, RB1100. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
We have been testing mini-box.com's little toys. They are Atom processors, but with a SATA DOM, dual core 1.6GHz Atom, 3 GB Ether add-on (total of 4 GB ports), we have been able to keep them right at the $200 mark. We just implemented our first one this week. So far, so good. The true test is the heat of the summer in some of these enclosures. None are vented, but the sites are kept less than 90*. For $200, I can stock many on the shelf for lightning replacements. I am really worried more about the heat. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:19 PM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? All of those are steps down from his current P4 based system. The only way to get more performance is to build your own X86 system. Travis Microserv can...@believewireless.net wrote: A RB450G should be fine for what you need. Or use an RB493AH if you need more ports. If you can wait a couple months, the new RB1100 is coming out which looks pretty sweet. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
what about a Nema box and bury it say below the frost line - thus below the heat line as well. just a thought On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Eric Rogers wrote: We have been testing mini-box.com's little toys. They are Atom processors, but with a SATA DOM, dual core 1.6GHz Atom, 3 GB Ether add-on (total of 4 GB ports), we have been able to keep them right at the $200 mark. We just implemented our first one this week. So far, so good. The true test is the heat of the summer in some of these enclosures. None are vented, but the sites are kept less than 90*. For $200, I can stock many on the shelf for lightning replacements. I am really worried more about the heat. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:19 PM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? All of those are steps down from his current P4 based system. The only way to get more performance is to build your own X86 system. Travis Microserv can...@believewireless.net wrote: A RB450G should be fine for what you need. Or use an RB493AH if you need more ports. If you can wait a couple months, the new RB1100 is coming out which looks pretty sweet. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
Care to share your parts list? I can't seem to put everything together for less than $200... and I'd love to test one of these. Travis Microserv Eric Rogers wrote: We have been testing mini-box.com's little toys. They are Atom processors, but with a SATA DOM, dual core 1.6GHz Atom, 3 GB Ether add-on (total of 4 GB ports), we have been able to keep them right at the $200 mark. We just implemented our first one this week. So far, so good. The true test is the heat of the summer in some of these enclosures. None are vented, but the sites are kept less than 90*. For $200, I can stock many on the shelf for lightning replacements. I am really worried more about the heat. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:19 PM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? All of those are steps down from his current P4 based system. The only way to get more performance is to build your own X86 system. Travis Microserv can...@believewireless.net wrote: A RB450G should be fine for what you need. Or use an RB493AH if you need more ports. If you can wait a couple months, the new RB1100 is coming out which looks pretty sweet. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 3.5m dish + Mars Express
From Slashdot: A French amateur radio operator who built his own ground station using equipment from an abandoned telecom uplink site has listened in on the ESA's Mars Express space probe. While his antenna is too small to allow him to download actual data, he was able to record and convert the signal of the probe's X-Band transmitter into an audio file. Amazing considering that this signal was generated on Mars Express by a transmitter only slightly more powerful than a light bulb. This tiny signal travelled over 100 million kilometres and was picked up by Bertrand with his 3.5m dish ok - so its not a WISP signal... but makes me wonder what actually happens if someone is listening elsewhere to all those urls i visit via the wifi ;-) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
I must eat crow... I am horrible at addition and subtraction... 4 years of calculus and you would think I could at least add. Sorry, I forgot I used a USB dongle I already had in my original calculation, thinking it was near $200, but is was $250. Complete system $286, and with quantities, I am sure it will come down. $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU and Power Adapter $109 - Jetway NC92-N330 1.6 Dual Atom $49 - Jetway 3 X Gigabit LAN $29 - 1 GB Memory $39 - 1 GB SATA DOM -- $286 I have also built basically the same as above, but an Intel D945GCLF (Single Core Intel chipset) for about the same. $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU (unneeded) and Power Adapter $69 - Motherboard $9 - Riser Card $29 - 1 GB Memory $10 - USB Flash Drive $99 - RB44G (or 4 port Ethernet card) - $285 Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 11:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Care to share your parts list? I can't seem to put everything together for less than $200... and I'd love to test one of these. Travis Microserv Eric Rogers wrote: We have been testing mini-box.com's little toys. They are Atom processors, but with a SATA DOM, dual core 1.6GHz Atom, 3 GB Ether add-on (total of 4 GB ports), we have been able to keep them right at the $200 mark. We just implemented our first one this week. So far, so good. The true test is the heat of the summer in some of these enclosures. None are vented, but the sites are kept less than 90*. For $200, I can stock many on the shelf for lightning replacements. I am really worried more about the heat. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:19 PM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? All of those are steps down from his current P4 based system. The only way to get more performance is to build your own X86 system. Travis Microserv can...@believewireless.net wrote: A RB450G should be fine for what you need. Or use an RB493AH if you need more ports. If you can wait a couple months, the new RB1100 is coming out which looks pretty sweet. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
Brad - Com port. On 3/6/10, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Geesh...the RB1100 is a nice step in the right direction, but still no USB port. No USB port - no way to monitor the APC UPS. sigh Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 9:41 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 18:25 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote: I am thinking about replacing my X86 PC running MT with a routerboard. My current setup is a P4 1.7Ghz with 256 Meg Ram. I am routing 7.5 Mbit, soon to be 10 Mbit. I have 183 filter rules, 76 Mangles, and 215 Simple queues. I do some filters with L7 and I have no DHCP server running. CPU usage averages %20 - %25 and Mem averages around 50 Meg. If you're gonna go Routerboard, then RB1000 (at a minimum) or the new, not, yet available, RB1100. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
APC Makes Serial cables for their UPSs. On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Geesh...the RB1100 is a nice step in the right direction, but still no USB port. No USB port - no way to monitor the APC UPS. sigh Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 9:41 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 18:25 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote: I am thinking about replacing my X86 PC running MT with a routerboard. My current setup is a P4 1.7Ghz with 256 Meg Ram. I am routing 7.5 Mbit, soon to be 10 Mbit. I have 183 filter rules, 76 Mangles, and 215 Simple queues. I do some filters with L7 and I have no DHCP server running. CPU usage averages %20 - %25 and Mem averages around 50 Meg. If you're gonna go Routerboard, then RB1000 (at a minimum) or the new, not, yet available, RB1100. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
