Re: [WISPA] Ethernet to Fiber Adapters

[Philip Dorr]

you could get a DC to DC converter that works off of 24 volts (or make your own)

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:35 AM, RickG  wrote:
> I had a feeling you were going to say that. Let us know if you find those.
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Scott Reed 
> wrote:
>>
>> This looks good, but uses 7.5 volt power.  I need something that uses the
>> 24 volt power that is in the box.
>>
>> RickG wrote:
>>
>> These work well for the price.
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156005&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Network+-+Transceivers-_-Trendnet-_-33156005
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Scott Reed 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know there are folks out there using fiber up the tower.
>>> What are you using for media converters?
>>>
>>> Scott Reed wrote:
>>> > I have a tower that it looks like the only option is to run fiber to
>>> > the
>>> > RB433 as there is an FM repeater station just below us.  All my RBs are
>>> > running at 24VDC.  What Ethernet to Fiber adapters are folks using that
>>> > run on 24VDC?
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [WISPA] Ethernet to Fiber Adapters

[RickG]

I had a feeling you were going to say that. Let us know if you find those.

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

>  This looks good, but uses 7.5 volt power.  I need something that uses the
> 24 volt power that is in the box.
>
> RickG wrote:
>
> These work well for the price.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156005&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Network+-+Transceivers-_-Trendnet-_-33156005
> -RickG
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
>
>> I know there are folks out there using fiber up the tower.
>> What are you using for media converters?
>>
>> Scott Reed wrote:
>> > I have a tower that it looks like the only option is to run fiber to the
>> > RB433 as there is an FM repeater station just below us.  All my RBs are
>> > running at 24VDC.  What Ethernet to Fiber adapters are folks using that
>> > run on 24VDC?
>> >
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] CMM Required?

[Josh Luthman]

You can use a parasitic thing from Packet Flux.  Or CTM.

On Aug 21, 2010 11:06 PM, "Edward Spoon"  wrote:

Trying to get a definitive answer here and Moto ain't a helpin'!

For a site with 2 or 3 5720BH units (all links PtP - no AP-SU traffic), do I
'have to' use a CMM? I'd prefer to bring each link inside on a separate wire
to isolate them in the router for failover configuration. Can't do much with
them if they are all on one wire in one interface.

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Re: [WISPA] CMM Required?

[Faisal Imtiaz]

The biggest thing the CMM provides is GPS timing. (other than a Ethernet 
switch & Power).

If you want to use a different GPS timing provider, then you don't have 
to use a "CMM"... (e.g. www.packetflux.com)

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On 8/21/2010 11:01 PM, Edward Spoon wrote:
> Trying to get a definitive answer here and Moto ain't a helpin'!
>
> For a site with 2 or 3 5720BH units (all links PtP - no AP-SU traffic),
> do I 'have to' use a CMM? I'd prefer to bring each link inside on a
> separate wire to isolate them in the router for failover configuration.
> Can't do much with them if they are all on one wire in one interface.
>
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> Ed
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[WISPA] CMM Required?

[Edward Spoon]

Trying to get a definitive answer here and Moto ain't a helpin'!

For a site with 2 or 3 5720BH units (all links PtP - no AP-SU traffic), do I
'have to' use a CMM? I'd prefer to bring each link inside on a separate wire
to isolate them in the router for failover configuration. Can't do much with
them if they are all on one wire in one interface.

Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Vonage

[Bradley D. Thornton]

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I've Been offline for a few days.

pls see below for addtional comments...


On 8/19/2010 8:13 AM, Martha Huizenga wrote:
>  hi all,
> 
> We have a client that has Vonage and is having problems. When his office
> was somewhere else we gave him a separate router for the vonage box and
> one for Internet. At his new office, in his home carriage house the set
> up is as follows:
> 
> Antenna on the roof comes into the house to a router. Then that router
> is connected to another repeater in the carriage house that is connected
> to the Vonage b

make sure it is simply a bridged connection.


> 
> I am thinking this is too many hops for Vonage? But hoping someone else
> has a better understanding of this.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Martha


First, I would recommend being the VoIP provider yourself and dumping
Vonage. Short of that, I would recommend that you use something like
VoIP-Jet or Broadvoice, where you can BYOD, and get rid of the sipura
devices that are hardwired to Vonage.

Okay, It prolly isn't so much a factor of how many hops, as it is the
co-mingling of traffic going out through the bottleneck point.

I recommend that your client place all SIP, IAX2, and related traffic at
the top of the firewall ruleset - If you don't, then anytime someone
(especially if it is upstream at the bottleneck) visits something like
youtube, your clients going to begin having problems.

You might also be NAT'ing NAT'd traffic - bad w/SIP.

You may be required to have the NAT'd traffic heading to/from the sipura
or other IP/VoIP device NAT'd from a public IP and then not NAT'd again,
because there are issues with SIP behind firewalls when you're not doing
1:1 NAT (A way around this is to put a bridge on the forward facing
firewall exposed to the public IP network - like the FreeSwitch contrib
for pfSense, arguably the best firewall out there, and free).

Contact me offlist for additional particulars.

Hope that helps :)

Kindest regards,


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Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?

[Fred Goldstein]

At 8/21/2010 08:32 PM, you wrote:

Who all is carrying the Gabriel dishes?


Google found them at Moonblink Communications.  About $500 for a 
2-footer, double that for the high-performance version (slightly 
lower gain, about 8 dB more front to back).




Chris
- Original Message -
From: Bobby Burrow
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or 
multiple radios in the same box?


I have seen the same problem with the PacWireless dishes. We tried 
them with PTP400 radios and UBNT Rockets. They will not allow the 
radios to function full duplex. We went with the Gabriel QuickFire 
series dishes (both standard and high performance). Full duplex 
issues resolved.


Bobby

On 8/21/2010 1:31 PM, Chris Hudson wrote:
I have some Nstreme2 ptp's that are using MTI Dual Pol Panel 
antennas that work great. But now I have a Pacwireless Dual Pol 2ft 
dish and when I am running with 1 radio in half duplex it works 
great, and it doesn't matter what polarization - V or H. As long as 
one pol is running at a time. And this is when I have one pol at 
5200 and the other at 5745, so opposite ends of the spectrum. When 
I enable the nstreme2 the whole connection just struggles.


I have verified that the frequencies are clear and including the 
immediate adjacent channels.



Any Ideas? Oh, I'm using RB433AH's with 2 R5H's on both ends. I'm 
thinking of changing the RX radios on both sides to a non High 
power radios, just haven't decided which one.


Chris
- Original Message -
From: RickG
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?

I love UBNT. I've been upgrading backhauls to RocketM's and CPE to 
BulletM's and/or NanoM's. Customers keep mentioning the network 
seems faster & faster. The word on the street is we're faster than 
cable & dsl! The only issue I've had so far is that the legacy 
radios dont like UBNT AP's.


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, jp 
<j...@saucer.midcoast.com> wrote:

That UBTik looks pretty cool.

Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For
N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N
greatness.


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote:
> Why not use N radios?  If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at
> Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device.  You can buy the UBNT
> dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them.
>
> Eric Rogers
> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
>
> There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with
> using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but
> someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could
> check the archive.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
> 
<paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com> 
wrote:

>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per
> > routerboard and that worked nicely.
> >
> > Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad
> idea,
> > the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some
> > interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent
> > channels.
> >
> > that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on
> > the same routerboard.
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > --
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> >
> > Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
> >
> > Teleinform s.r.l.
> > Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo
> > Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo)
> > Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501
> > Fax: +39-091-6406200
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?

[Chris Hudson]

Who all is carrying the Gabriel dishes?

Chris
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bobby Burrow 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 7:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or multiple 
radios in the same box?


  I have seen the same problem with the PacWireless dishes. We tried them with 
PTP400 radios and UBNT Rockets. They will not allow the radios to function full 
duplex. We went with the Gabriel QuickFire series dishes (both standard and 
high performance). Full duplex issues resolved.

  Bobby

  On 8/21/2010 1:31 PM, Chris Hudson wrote: 
I have some Nstreme2 ptp's that are using MTI Dual Pol Panel antennas that 
work great. But now I have a Pacwireless Dual Pol 2ft dish and when I am 
running with 1 radio in half duplex it works great, and it doesn't matter what 
polarization - V or H. As long as one pol is running at a time. And this is 
when I have one pol at 5200 and the other at 5745, so opposite ends of the 
spectrum. When I enable the nstreme2 the whole connection just struggles. 

I have verified that the frequencies are clear and including the immediate 
adjacent channels.


Any Ideas? Oh, I'm using RB433AH's with 2 R5H's on both ends. I'm thinking 
of changing the RX radios on both sides to a non High power radios, just 
haven't decided which one.

Chris
  - Original Message - 
  From: RickG 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?


  I love UBNT. I've been upgrading backhauls to RocketM's and CPE to 
BulletM's and/or NanoM's. Customers keep mentioning the network seems faster & 
faster. The word on the street is we're faster than cable & dsl! The only issue 
I've had so far is that the legacy radios dont like UBNT AP's.


  On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, jp  wrote:

That UBTik looks pretty cool.

Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For
N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N
greatness.



On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote:
> Why not use N radios?  If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at
> Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device.  You can buy the 
UBNT
> dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them.
>
> Eric Rogers
> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On
> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
>
> There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with
> using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but
> someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could
> check the archive.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
>  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio 
per
> > routerboard and that worked nicely.
> >
> > Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad
> idea,
> > the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some
> > interference considering that the radios could be working on 
adjacent
> > channels.
> >
> > that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios 
on
> > the same routerboard.
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
> >
> > Teleinform s.r.l.
> > Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo
> > Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale (Palermo)
> > Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501
> > Fax: +39-091-6406200
> >
> > http://www.wikitel.it
> > http://www.teleinform.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?

[Bobby Burrow]

I have seen the same problem with the PacWireless dishes. We tried them 
with PTP400 radios and UBNT Rockets. They will not allow the radios to 
function full duplex. We went with the Gabriel QuickFire series dishes 
(both standard and high performance). Full duplex issues resolved.


Bobby

On 8/21/2010 1:31 PM, Chris Hudson wrote:
I have some Nstreme2 ptp's that are using MTI Dual Pol Panel antennas 
that work great. But now I have a Pacwireless Dual Pol 2ft dish and 
when I am running with 1 radio in half duplex it works great, and it 
doesn't matter what polarization - V or H. As long as one pol is 
running at a time. And this is when I have one pol at 5200 and the 
other at 5745, so opposite ends of the spectrum. When I enable the 
nstreme2 the whole connection just struggles.
I have verified that the frequencies are clear and including the 
immediate adjacent channels.
Any Ideas? Oh, I'm using RB433AH's with 2 R5H's on both ends. I'm 
thinking of changing the RX radios on both sides to a non High power 
radios, just haven't decided which one.

Chris

- Original Message -
*From:* RickG 
*To:* WISPA General List 
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:16 PM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same
box?

I love UBNT. I've been upgrading backhauls to RocketM's and CPE to
BulletM's and/or NanoM's. Customers keep mentioning the network
seems faster & faster. The word on the street is we're faster than
cable & dsl! The only issue I've had so far is that the legacy
radios dont like UBNT AP's.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, jp mailto:j...@saucer.midcoast.com>> wrote:

That UBTik looks pretty cool.

Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N
yet. For
N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of
Mikrotik N
greatness.


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote:
> Why not use N radios?  If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then
look at
> Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device.  You can
buy the UBNT
> dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them.
>
> Eric Rogers
> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
] On
> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the
same box?
>
> There was a discussion here not to long ago about
interference with
> using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is
interference but
> someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or
you could
> check the archive.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
> mailto:paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com>> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > in our point-to-point links, we have always used one
single radio per
> > routerboard and that worked nicely.
> >
> > Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is
not a bad
> idea,
> > the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to
some
> > interference considering that the radios could be working
on adjacent
> > channels.
> >
> > that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about
multiple radios on
> > the same routerboard.
> >
> > Thank you in advance
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Re: [WISPA] Ethernet to Fiber Adapters

[Scott Reed]

This looks good, but uses 7.5 volt power.  I need something that uses 
the 24 volt power that is in the box.


RickG wrote:

These work well for the price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156005&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Network+-+Transceivers-_-Trendnet-_-33156005 
 


-RickG

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Scott Reed 
mailto:scottr...@onlyinternet.net>> wrote:


I know there are folks out there using fiber up the tower.
What are you using for media converters?

Scott Reed wrote:
> I have a tower that it looks like the only option is to run
fiber to the
> RB433 as there is an FM repeater station just below us.  All my
RBs are
> running at 24VDC.  What Ethernet to Fiber adapters are folks
using that
> run on 24VDC?
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Slightly different question - Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?

[Chris Hudson]

I have some Nstreme2 ptp's that are using MTI Dual Pol Panel antennas that work 
great. But now I have a Pacwireless Dual Pol 2ft dish and when I am running 
with 1 radio in half duplex it works great, and it doesn't matter what 
polarization - V or H. As long as one pol is running at a time. And this is 
when I have one pol at 5200 and the other at 5745, so opposite ends of the 
spectrum. When I enable the nstreme2 the whole connection just struggles. 

I have verified that the frequencies are clear and including the immediate 
adjacent channels.


Any Ideas? Oh, I'm using RB433AH's with 2 R5H's on both ends. I'm thinking of 
changing the RX radios on both sides to a non High power radios, just haven't 
decided which one.

Chris
  - Original Message - 
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  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?


  I love UBNT. I've been upgrading backhauls to RocketM's and CPE to BulletM's 
and/or NanoM's. Customers keep mentioning the network seems faster & faster. 
The word on the street is we're faster than cable & dsl! The only issue I've 
had so far is that the legacy radios dont like UBNT AP's.


  On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:48 AM, jp  wrote:

That UBTik looks pretty cool.

Mikrotik rocks for a lot of things, but I don't trust their .N yet. For
N I'll stick with Ubnt till I'm overwhelmed with reports of Mikrotik N
greatness.



On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:47:22AM -0400, Eric Rogers wrote:
> Why not use N radios?  If you don't like UBNT Rockets, then look at
> Mikrotik 411s with Baltic Networks' Ubitik device.  You can buy the UBNT
> dual-polarity dishes, but use Mikrotiks on them.
>
> Eric Rogers
> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:48 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?
>
> There was a discussion here not to long ago about interference with
> using two radios in one rb. As I recall there is interference but
> someone had a solution. I am sure someone will chime in or you could
> check the archive.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:42 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
>  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > in our point-to-point links, we have always used one single radio per
> > routerboard and that worked nicely.
> >
> > Obviously using 2 radios in the same RB (e.g. RB433) is not a bad
> idea,
> > the cost is lower, but I was wondering if this can lead to some
> > interference considering that the radios could be working on adjacent
> > channels.
> >
> > that's why I would appreciate any suggestion about multiple radios on
> > the same routerboard.
> >
> > Thank you in advance
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
> >
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> > Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501
> > Fax: +39-091-6406200
> >
> > http://www.wikitel.it
> > http://www.teleinform.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Ethernet to Fiber Adapters

[Dennis Burgess]

Scott, we sell some via our site, the are aaxeon units, nice, but not 48
volt, think 5 volt.  Work great.  We stock most items at our store
http://store.linktechs.net if you have any questions, feel free to shoot
us a call. 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet to Fiber Adapters

I know there are folks out there using fiber up the tower.
What are you using for media converters?

Scott Reed wrote:
> I have a tower that it looks like the only option is to run fiber to
the
> RB433 as there is an FM repeater station just below us.  All my RBs
are
> running at 24VDC.  What Ethernet to Fiber adapters are folks using
that
> run on 24VDC?
>
>   

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Re: [WISPA] Tower site thefts

[Blake Bowers]

I went around the corner, and all that was left was a big old
hole!


I did hear recently about a fire hydrant that was stolen out
of the ground in Northern NJ...


Don't take your organs to heaven, 
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower site thefts


>  Who is stealing tower sites?  :-p
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Re: [WISPA] Ethernet to Fiber Adapters

[Josh Luthman]

Jumpers for an SAF link.

On Aug 21, 2010 2:18 PM, "Scott Reed"  wrote:

I know there are folks out there using fiber up the tower.
What are you using for media converters?


Scott Reed wrote:
> I have a tower that it looks like the only option is to run fiber to the
> RB43...



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Re: [WISPA] Ethernet to Fiber Adapters

[RickG]

These work well for the price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156005&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Network+-+Transceivers-_-Trendnet-_-33156005
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On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

> I know there are folks out there using fiber up the tower.
> What are you using for media converters?
>
> Scott Reed wrote:
> > I have a tower that it looks like the only option is to run fiber to the
> > RB433 as there is an FM repeater station just below us.  All my RBs are
> > running at 24VDC.  What Ethernet to Fiber adapters are folks using that
> > run on 24VDC?
> >
> >
>
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Re: [WISPA] shielded termination

[RickG]

With "outdoor" cable :)

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Chris Hudson  wrote:

>  Yeah, I want to watch a video of that.
>
> Chris
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jason Bailey 
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:27 PM
> *Subject:* [WISPA] shielded termination
>
>   http://www.vpi.us/installation/assemble-cat5eshld.html
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Re: [WISPA] Ethernet to Fiber Adapters

[Scott Reed]

I know there are folks out there using fiber up the tower.
What are you using for media converters?

Scott Reed wrote:
> I have a tower that it looks like the only option is to run fiber to the
> RB433 as there is an FM repeater station just below us.  All my RBs are
> running at 24VDC.  What Ethernet to Fiber adapters are folks using that
> run on 24VDC?
>
>   

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Re: [WISPA] shielded termination

[Chris Hudson]

Yeah, I want to watch a video of that. 

Chris
  - Original Message - 
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  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:27 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] shielded termination


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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

[Mike]

I have always loved the raw beauty of a utility grade batch file. 

It would be easy for anyone to use notepad to change the IP addresses and
use your batch idea.  10 options from a batch menu; bravo!

Friendly Regards,
 
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

http://iam8up.com/ipconfiger/

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On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike  wrote:
> I run into the same thing Josh.  What does your batch look like?
>
> 
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:11 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
>
>
>
> Keep in mind I have one to share if you want.
>
> On Aug 20, 2010 10:50 PM, "Mike"  wrote:
>
> Try using a batch file and NETSH commands:
>
>
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-
us/netsh_dhcp_example.mspx?mfr=true
>
>
>
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>
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:23 PM
>
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
>
>
>
> I did that once with a bunch or tranzeos. Works good. of course, having a
> switch up on a tower isnt practical. I'm sure there must be a registry
entry
> for the dhcp timeout on windoze somewhere?
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti  wrote:
>
> Justin,
> I would think ...
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

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http://iam8up.com/ipconfiger/

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On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike  wrote:
> I run into the same thing Josh.  What does your batch look like?
>
> 
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:11 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
>
>
>
> Keep in mind I have one to share if you want.
>
> On Aug 20, 2010 10:50 PM, "Mike"  wrote:
>
> Try using a batch file and NETSH commands:
>
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/netsh_dhcp_example.mspx?mfr=true
>
>
>
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>
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:23 PM
>
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
>
>
>
> I did that once with a bunch or tranzeos. Works good. of course, having a
> switch up on a tower isnt practical. I'm sure there must be a registry entry
> for the dhcp timeout on windoze somewhere?
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti  wrote:
>
> Justin,
> I would think ...
>
>
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[WISPA] shielded termination

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Re: [WISPA] No More RUS Satellite Funding

[St. Louis Broadband]

'They' are stating that there is $1B left in the BTOP account and $500mm in
the BIP account.  However this does not take into consideration all the
applications that are dropping out after award.  I know of one that dropped
and was awarded $50mm, but experts are saying the drops are in the dozens.

 

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] No More RUS Satellite Funding

 

I wonder...  how much of the ARRA broadband money has been spent so far.
Maybe they're done funding projects period?  :-p



 
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http://www.ics-il.com
 


On 8/20/2010 4:45 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: 

RUS has completed their funding of satellite projects.

 

http://www.telecompetitor.com/no-more-broadband-satellite-stimulus-funding/

 

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Re: [WISPA] No More RUS Satellite Funding

[Mike Hammett]

 I wonder...  how much of the ARRA broadband money has been spent so 
far.  Maybe they're done funding projects period?  :-p


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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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On 8/20/2010 4:45 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:


RUS has completed their funding of satellite projects.

http://www.telecompetitor.com/no-more-broadband-satellite-stimulus-funding/

*Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

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Re: [WISPA] Tower site thefts

[Mike Hammett]

  Who is stealing tower sites?  :-p

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On 8/20/2010 9:26 AM, Blake Bowers wrote:
> http://www.wirelessestimator.com/breaking_news.cfm#Generator
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Re: [WISPA] Tower site thefts

[Jeromie Reeves]

That would be unfair to the conversation =)


On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Blake Bowers  wrote:
> Or knowledge that has not been published perhaps?
>
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> Don't take your organs to heaven,
> heaven knows we need them down here!
> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeromie Reeves" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower site thefts
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> Now see, you are not playing fair. The article in the link does not
> say that. For what you have said to be true, you must have other
> articles on the subject.
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Blake Bowers  wrote:
>> LOL...
>>
>> One can usually surmise pretty well when they are caught with the
>> generators from 3 other sites, complete with serial numbers. Of
>> course I guess someone could have slipped those monster
>> units onto their trailer without them knowing about it.
>>
>> I say it again, alleged is just a nicety.
>>
>> (shaking my head)
>>
>>
>> Don't take your organs to heaven,
>> heaven knows we need them down here!
>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jeromie Reeves" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 3:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower site thefts
>>
>>
>> That, and there is no proof that they ARE the ones responsible for
>> doing it, as yet reported. Likely, since one or both of them seam
>> loose lipped, they will confess to at least some of the sites in
>> question. They were only caught at one site after all.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Blake Bowers 
>> wrote:
>>> These guys are "alleged" to have ripped out AC units, and copper
>>> wire at many of the sites in question.
>>>
>>> Isn't alleged a cute word, it means "they did it but to keep the
>>> attorneys at bay we use it"
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Single Mode Fiber to Multimode Fiber Convertor?

[Bob Moldashel]

Media Converter  L-Comm


can...@believewireless.net wrote:
> Is there a simple solution to convert single mode to multimode?  We
> have a location where the customer required their contract put in the
> conduit and pull their own cables.  Well, they installed and ran 650ft
> of single mode even though we explicitly said multimode.  This is for
> a Bridgewave installation so we can power something at the antenna if
> need be.  Just don't want it to be two adapters:
> singlemode->ethernet->multimode.
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[WISPA] No connectivity at 3-5 user locations, seems strange

[Ron Wallace]

Anyone who can help,

We have 3-5 users that cannot access the internet via Canopy 9000 SMC's w/ 17 
dB Yagi, ss600 surge,

When config'd to freq. & Color Code, same firmware version as AP - AP does not 
"see" the radio, radio does not see tower AP. Go to 'tools' in SM, alignment 
mode, and we have -60 to -70 dBm on all radios, spectrum analyzer shows a good 
signal across the 924 MHz channel. Switch off the alignment mode and 'SA', 'go 
back to 'status' and there is only the 107 to 108 RSSI.

One site I have changed out the entire installation, been good for four years, 
the same result. Rural area, 1-5 miles separation between sites, happening on 
two (2) different 9000 APC's.

Customers are unhappy, I am stumped. Does anyone know the answer to the 
problem? A suggestion, anything?

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Hahnron, Inc.
220 S. Jackson Dt.
Addison, MI 49220

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Re: [WISPA] More BTOP/BIP

[Chris Cooper]

Round two awards are up to 70% grant without  a waiver. RUS expects to  
be paid back on the loan portion and structures the deals so that they  
are made whole before anyone else.


Thanks,

Chris Cooper

On Aug 20, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Fred Goldstein   
wrote:



At 8/20/2010 10:04 PM, you wrote:

Is this free money or loans?


I think it's all grants.

The funny thing is that the RUS BIP grants were basically only given  
to existing RUS lendees.  So they won't be asking Windstream et al  
to repay these. Of course the repayment doesn't come from them -- it  
comes from USF, another tax.


On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Fred Goldstein > wrote:

At 8/20/2010 02:49 PM, you wrote:
>Where does Bip/Btop post these awards?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/20100818_Broadband_Awards.pdf

The BIP money mostly went to ILECs, it seems.  Windstream cleaned up
again.  I see one WISP there (Wave Wireless).  And a bunch of
satellite stuff.  The BTOP side was a little more varied.

>On 08/17/2010 06:51 PM, Charles Wu (CTI) wrote:
> >
> > Word on the street is that there are a few more award  
announcements

> > coming out tomorrow…
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

[Mike]

I run into the same thing Josh.  What does your batch look like?

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

 

Keep in mind I have one to share if you want.

On Aug 20, 2010 10:50 PM, "Mike"  wrote:

Try using a batch file and NETSH commands:

 

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-
us/netsh_dhcp_example.mspx?mfr=true

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:23 PM


To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

 

I did that once with a bunch or tranzeos. Works good. of course, having a
switch up on a tower isnt practical. I'm sure there must be a registry entry
for the dhcp timeout on windoze somewhere? 



On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti  wrote:

Justin,
I would think ...






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