Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Even if they're wrong, you won't win! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/31/2010 4:04 PM, Robert West wrote: Update on the competitor situation. Today was the big meeting between old boy, new boy and the owners of the grain legs that new boy is on. Again, old boy is related in a roundabout way to the grain legs owners but they decided not to have him do this project for them. Everyone showed up for the meeting but tower owner boys had a surprise visitor with them. They brought in OLD HAM RADIO GUY! Old Ham Radio Guy, or just Ham was there to be the knowledgeable neutral party. Ham looked over the equipment and the network structure, the RF being used and the interference that old boy was claiming. In the end, Old Ham was impressed with New Boys knowledge, professionalism and quality of equipment. Old boy. He wasn't impressed with his setup of much else and pointed out immediately the inherent weakness in his Omni antennas. However, Ham wrote up a plan for old boy and new boy to follow and the only real requirement is that old boy replace those Omnis with sectors and to agree on trying to separate their coverage area as best they can. Word is Old Boy has already obtained a few sectors so we shall see. Thanks for ideas on both sides of this. I just have to laugh at Old Ham Dude coming in as the wild card. You can't argue with an old ham no matter how much you try. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] bandwidth provider at Westin
I'm using Spectrum now, and at 65/meg, it hurts, since my use is going up as much as 10% a month. Not only that, I haven't been able to get anyone to talk to me or respond to emails in six months, except for matters of collecting money.They're all over that, but I'm too small, I guess, to warrant anyone's time for any other matters. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] bandwidth provider at Westin spectrumnet.us (aka condointernet) http://www.seattleix.net/ - get on this! :) http://www.seattleix.net/participants.htm ryan On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:52 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm looking for wholesale bandwidth providers located in Westin.. Anyone have names / etc? Thanks Mark ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Figuring it out
I've had my one test sector up for some time, and then it suddenly developed ethernet issues. I changed both cables and switch, and no joy. I have the replacement rocket, just waiting for the moment I can get back up there and replace it. Since this is more common than it should be, I'm going to go whine to UBNT. I thought mine might a fluke or some kind of odd damage issue, but apparently not. Unless someone knows of a managed switch that uses less than 3W power, I'm stuck with dumb switches... ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ From: Chuck Hogg Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 6:47 AM To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Figuring it out Try setting the Rocket AP to 10Mbit on the Ethernet and see if you get the same results. I have had several 100Mbit ethernet issues with Rockets, only fix I have had has been to put a modified POE RB/750G near the top of the tower to the Rocket. At 100Mbit they had 7-20% packet loss. If you have a mikrotik you can also test this using the ping command from base to top and set the timeout to 75ms. If you have any packet loss, try setting to 10Mbit and ping again. Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] bandwidth provider at Westin
What amount of bandwidth are you using at this time? John is a pretty reasonable guy. Renegotiate for lower rates at a higher commit. Or. Go to another colo and ask for 3 rack units and an X-Connect to the SIX. When you have that Xconnect, your bandwidth costs should go down pretty dramatically as there is no longer a loop charge. Pick a provider: http://www.seattleix.net/autogen/participants_5.html done. Cogent? ryan On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:35 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm using Spectrum now, and at 65/meg, it hurts, since my use is going up as much as 10% a month. Not only that, I haven't been able to get anyone to talk to me or respond to emails in six months, except for matters of collecting money. They're all over that, but I'm too small, I guess, to warrant anyone's time for any other matters. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] bandwidth provider at Westin spectrumnet.us (aka condointernet) http://www.seattleix.net/ - get on this! :) http://www.seattleix.net/participants.htm ryan On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:52 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm looking for wholesale bandwidth providers located in Westin.. Anyone have names / etc? Thanks Mark ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Figuring it out
What is the reason for the 3W requirement ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 1/1/2011 12:43 PM, MDK wrote: I've had my one test sector up for some time, and then it suddenly developed ethernet issues. I changed both cables and switch, and no joy. I have the replacement rocket, just waiting for the moment I can get back up there and replace it. Since this is more common than it should be, I'm going to go whine to UBNT. I thought mine might a fluke or some kind of odd damage issue, but apparently not. Unless someone knows of a managed switch that uses less than 3W power, I'm stuck with dumb switches... ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ *From:* Chuck Hogg mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com *Sent:* Friday, December 31, 2010 6:47 AM *To:* spie...@avolve.net mailto:spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Figuring it out Try setting the Rocket AP to 10Mbit on the Ethernet and see if you get the same results. I have had several 100Mbit ethernet issues with Rockets, only fix I have had has been to put a modified POE RB/750G near the top of the tower to the Rocket. At 100Mbit they had 7-20% packet loss. If you have a mikrotik you can also test this using the ping command from base to top and set the timeout to 75ms. If you have any packet loss, try setting to 10Mbit and ping again. Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Bottom line in all this is very simple. When your the first on a grainleg - make a contract that is rock solid. Get the right of first refusal on any frequency and get it on paper. While handshakes are nice - paper wins hands down. On Jan 1, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Even if they're wrong, you won't win! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/31/2010 4:04 PM, Robert West wrote: Update on the competitor situation. Today was the big meeting between old boy, new boy and the owners of the grain legs that new boy is on. Again, old boy is related in a roundabout way to the grain legs owners but they decided not to have him do this project for them. Everyone showed up for the meeting but tower owner boys had a surprise visitor with them. They brought in OLD HAM RADIO GUY! Old Ham Radio Guy, or just “Ham” was there to be the knowledgeable neutral party. Ham looked over the equipment and the network structure, the RF being used and the interference that old boy was claiming. In the end, Old Ham was impressed with New Boys knowledge, professionalism and quality of equipment. Old boy….. He wasn’t impressed with his setup of much else and pointed out immediately the inherent weakness in his Omni antennas. However, Ham wrote up a plan for old boy and new boy to follow and the only real requirement is that old boy replace those Omnis with sectors and to agree on trying to separate their coverage area as best they can. Word is Old Boy has already obtained a few sectors so we shall see. Thanks for ideas on both sides of this. I just have to laugh at Old Ham Dude coming in as the wild card. You can’t argue with an old ham no matter how much you try. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Ha! Ain't that the truth! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 11:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy. Even if they're wrong, you won't win! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/31/2010 4:04 PM, Robert West wrote: Update on the competitor situation. Today was the big meeting between old boy, new boy and the owners of the grain legs that new boy is on. Again, old boy is related in a roundabout way to the grain legs owners but they decided not to have him do this project for them. Everyone showed up for the meeting but tower owner boys had a surprise visitor with them. They brought in OLD HAM RADIO GUY! Old Ham Radio Guy, or just Ham was there to be the knowledgeable neutral party. Ham looked over the equipment and the network structure, the RF being used and the interference that old boy was claiming. In the end, Old Ham was impressed with New Boys knowledge, professionalism and quality of equipment. Old boy... He wasn't impressed with his setup of much else and pointed out immediately the inherent weakness in his Omni antennas. However, Ham wrote up a plan for old boy and new boy to follow and the only real requirement is that old boy replace those Omnis with sectors and to agree on trying to separate their coverage area as best they can. Word is Old Boy has already obtained a few sectors so we shall see. Thanks for ideas on both sides of this. I just have to laugh at Old Ham Dude coming in as the wild card. You can't argue with an old ham no matter how much you try. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
But they aren't on the same grain legs, just within LOS of each other. But as far as getting things on paper, you're right although I'd rather have exclusive use. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 4:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy. Bottom line in all this is very simple. When your the first on a grainleg - make a contract that is rock solid. Get the right of first refusal on any frequency and get it on paper. While handshakes are nice - paper wins hands down. On Jan 1, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Even if they're wrong, you won't win! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/ On 12/31/2010 4:04 PM, Robert West wrote: Update on the competitor situation. Today was the big meeting between old boy, new boy and the owners of the grain legs that new boy is on. Again, old boy is related in a roundabout way to the grain legs owners but they decided not to have him do this project for them. Everyone showed up for the meeting but tower owner boys had a surprise visitor with them. They brought in OLD HAM RADIO GUY! Old Ham Radio Guy, or just Ham was there to be the knowledgeable neutral party. Ham looked over the equipment and the network structure, the RF being used and the interference that old boy was claiming. In the end, Old Ham was impressed with New Boys knowledge, professionalism and quality of equipment. Old boy... He wasn't impressed with his setup of much else and pointed out immediately the inherent weakness in his Omni antennas. However, Ham wrote up a plan for old boy and new boy to follow and the only real requirement is that old boy replace those Omnis with sectors and to agree on trying to separate their coverage area as best they can. Word is Old Boy has already obtained a few sectors so we shall see. Thanks for ideas on both sides of this. I just have to laugh at Old Ham Dude coming in as the wild card. You can't argue with an old ham no matter how much you try. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
We have first right on all three bands. Saved us more than once - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 2:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy. But they aren't on the same grain legs, just within LOS of each other. But as far as getting things on paper, you're right although I'd rather have exclusive use. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 4:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy. Bottom line in all this is very simple. When your the first on a grainleg - make a contract that is rock solid. Get the right of first refusal on any frequency and get it on paper. While handshakes are nice - paper wins hands down. On Jan 1, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Even if they're wrong, you won't win! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.comhttp://www.ics-il.com/ On 12/31/2010 4:04 PM, Robert West wrote: Update on the competitor situation. Today was the big meeting between old boy, new boy and the owners of the grain legs that new boy is on. Again, old boy is related in a roundabout way to the grain legs owners but they decided not to have him do this project for them. Everyone showed up for the meeting but tower owner boys had a surprise visitor with them. They brought in OLD HAM RADIO GUY! Old Ham Radio Guy, or just Ham was there to be the knowledgeable neutral party. Ham looked over the equipment and the network structure, the RF being used and the interference that old boy was claiming. In the end, Old Ham was impressed with New Boys knowledge, professionalism and quality of equipment. Old boy. He wasn't impressed with his setup of much else and pointed out immediately the inherent weakness in his Omni antennas. However, Ham wrote up a plan for old boy and new boy to follow and the only real requirement is that old boy replace those Omnis with sectors and to agree on trying to separate their coverage area as best they can. Word is Old Boy has already obtained a few sectors so we shall see. Thanks for ideas on both sides of this. I just have to laugh at Old Ham Dude coming in as the wild card. You can't argue with an old ham no matter how much you try. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.commailto:gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3352 - Release Date: 01/01/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Amen to that! On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: We have first right on all three bands. Saved us more than once - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert West *Sent:* Saturday, January 01, 2011 2:22 PM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy. But they aren’t on the same grain legs, just within LOS of each other. But as far as getting things on paper, you’re right although I’d rather have exclusive use. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Glenn Kelley *Sent:* Saturday, January 01, 2011 4:58 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy. Bottom line in all this is very simple. When your the first on a grainleg - make a contract that is rock solid. Get the right of first refusal on any frequency and get it on paper. While handshakes are nice - paper wins hands down. On Jan 1, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Even if they're wrong, you won't win! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/31/2010 4:04 PM, Robert West wrote: Update on the competitor situation. Today was the big meeting between old boy, new boy and the owners of the grain legs that new boy is on. Again, old boy is related in a roundabout way to the grain legs owners but they decided not to have him do this project for them. Everyone showed up for the meeting but tower owner boys had a surprise visitor with them. They brought in OLD HAM RADIO GUY! Old Ham Radio Guy, or just “Ham” was there to be the knowledgeable neutral party. Ham looked over the equipment and the network structure, the RF being used and the interference that old boy was claiming. In the end, Old Ham was impressed with New Boys knowledge, professionalism and quality of equipment. Old boy….. He wasn’t impressed with his setup of much else and pointed out immediately the inherent weakness in his Omni antennas. However, Ham wrote up a plan for old boy and new boy to follow and the only real requirement is that old boy replace those Omnis with sectors and to agree on trying to separate their coverage area as best they can. Word is Old Boy has already obtained a few sectors so we shall see. Thanks for ideas on both sides of this. I just have to laugh at Old Ham Dude coming in as the wild card. You can’t argue with an old ham no matter how much you try. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ * _ * *Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com * Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3352 - Release Date: 01/01/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Figuring it out
On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 09:43:32AM -0800, MDK wrote: Unless someone knows of a managed switch that uses less than 3W power, I'm stuck with dumb switches... RB493G PDF: http://routerboard.com/pricelist/download_file.php?file_id=259 Power consumption ~3W without extension cards, maximum -- 16 What I don't understand is the RB250GS 5port switch only, claims up to 6W. The PDFs for RB450G and RB750G say 6.4W at maximum load. The PDF for RB750 (100Mbps ports) says Up to 3W. I don't know if any of those would be suitable for use as a switch in your situation... -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] bandwidth provider at Westin
Exactly, a x-connect is ~$200-600 a month. Once you get connected, you can peer with as many providers as you want. Free or usually negotiated rates. ryan On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: My guess is the local loop is the big cost... not the actual bandwidth. Travis Microserv On 1/1/2011 10:48 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: What amount of bandwidth are you using at this time? John is a pretty reasonable guy. Renegotiate for lower rates at a higher commit. Or. Go to another colo and ask for 3 rack units and an X-Connect to the SIX. When you have that Xconnect, your bandwidth costs should go down pretty dramatically as there is no longer a loop charge. Pick a provider: http://www.seattleix.net/autogen/participants_5.html done. Cogent? ryan On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:35 AM, MDKrea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm using Spectrum now, and at 65/meg, it hurts, since my use is going up as much as 10% a month. Not only that, I haven't been able to get anyone to talk to me or respond to emails in six months, except for matters of collecting money. They're all over that, but I'm too small, I guess, to warrant anyone's time for any other matters. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Ryan Spottrsp...@irongoat.net Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 9:57 AM To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] bandwidth provider at Westin spectrumnet.us (aka condointernet) http://www.seattleix.net/- get on this! :) http://www.seattleix.net/participants.htm ryan On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:52 AM, MDKrea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm looking for wholesale bandwidth providers located in Westin.. Anyone have names / etc? Thanks Mark ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
