[WISPA] Problem with Nanostation5 and SIP
Hello, Here I send a question to the air with the hope that someone know how to solve it. We have several clients with Ubiquity Nanostation5 in router mode, with PPPoE. Other have a Mikrotik CPE, also in NAT with PPPoE. We provide SIP VoIP service. For some reason, the services behind Nanostation de-register and neve register again, until we reboot the Nano. With Mikrotik there is no problem. Any ideas? Best regards, Luis Abenza Sánchez Desarrollo de Negocio Free Technologies Excom, S.L. http://www.excom.es Tel. 902 02 02 34 Fax 902 87 66 41 AVISO LEGAL Este mensaje es CONFIDENCIAL, siendo para uso exclusivo de su destinatario. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor, reenvíe el mensaje inmediatamente a la dirección remitente y proceda a su borrado. Free Technologies Excom, S.L. incluirá su dirección de correo electrónico, así como los datos de contacto que le facilite en un fichero automatizado, con el fin de gestionar el envío de comunicaciones profesionales y/o personales. Para ejercitar sus derechos de acceso, rectificación, cancelación y oposición, remita su solicitud a: Free Technologies Excom, S.L. - Avda. de la Industria, nº 37, 39, Of. 3 - 4 - 28108, Alcobendas (Madrid). LEGAL NOTICE This message is CONFIDENTIAL, being for exclusive use of the addressee. If you are not the address, please forward this message to sender inmediately and arrange for its deletion. Free Technologies Excom, S.L. will include your address and contact details in an automated file, in order to manage the delivery of business and personal communications. To exercise your rights of access, rectification, cancellation and opposition, send your request to: Free Technologies Excom, s.l. - Avda. de la Industria, nº 37, 39, Of. 3 - 4 - 28108, Alcobendas (Madrid). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
I had someone just yesterday after learning they were burning through their 20gig limit in 10 days, think about giving up their cable bill of $30 and just pay me that money to watch shows. Until I told him that an HD movie would be anywhere from 1.5-2gigs. Although I will have to think about this more, because you are basically now a premium 'real' ON-Demand video service. You definitely have to be running some sort of polling AP with plenty of bandwidth and have to big infrastructure emergency plans. -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:21:57 -0400 Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue
All Routed. There are multiple Higher cost paths, But I've confirmed traffic is going the way It should be. No queues anywhere on the network. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Louis Arsenault lo...@ntinet.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:24 PM To: n...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue Is this all routed or bridged? If routed are there multiple paths back to tower B. Are you doing any Queues that might be limiting bandwidth for the customers IP? -Louis On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Signal is ~-55 Airmax Quality=97% Airmax Capacity=94% Ubnt speedtest shows the same results from APSU. Just a little bit slower then MT bandwidth test over the same link to the tower router. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:41 PM To: n...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue I know it should be roughly the same, but what does testing the powerbridge to the rocket show using ubiquiti's internal speed test, and what does the quality and capacity numbers look like while running the bandwidth from the customer side to the various towers? On 5/2/11 4:20 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Have a strange issue that is showing up in a few places. Was wondering what peoples thoughts are on this Here is how things are setup. Every tower has a Mikrotik router on it. And is OSPF Routed. Route to the customer is (Tower ATower BTower CTower DCustomer) Tower A is where we have fiber, And our colo for the purpose of this issue. Tower A and Tower B connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower B and Tower C connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower C and Tower D connect via un-licenced Backhaul and will do about 80Mb/s. Customer Connects to Tower D. AP is a 5ghz Rocket with a sector. SU is a Power Bridge. Now, Here is the bandwidth tests. Using the Mikrotik Bandwidth test to get these results. Testing over each Backhaul from each tower will always max out whatever backhaul I'm testing. IE. Tower ATower B will do ~250Mb/s BC ~250Mb/s CD ~80Mb/s Then Testing End to End Tower ATower D ~80Mb/s (Maxes out the weakest link, The BH between C and D. This is expected) Now, The Strange Part. Testing from the customers Mikrotik Router on site. Testing from CustomerTower D I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up. Testing from CustomerTower C I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up Testing from CustomerTower B I get about 15Mb/s Down and 30Mb/s up. Testing End to End Customer to Tower A I get about 15Mb/s Down And 30Mb/s Up. I don't get what is causing the customer location to show such slow speeds. I've tested multiple times, And Confirmed tons of free bandwidth on every Backhaul in the path. And testing Tower to Tower shows great speeds. We have the same problem in a few places. And in each case, We see a drop in speed as soon as it hits one of the licenced Backhauls. However, Each one of these backhauls regularly carries over 100Mb/s and have been tested to over 200Mb/s each time. Anyone have any ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue
Yes, And as stated. The bandwidth between the customer and the tower is great. Its only when running end to end it has a problem. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:40 PM To: n...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue Those numbers hold steady while the MT bandwidth test is running? Nick Olsen wrote: Signal is ~-55 Airmax Quality=97% Airmax Capacity=94% Ubnt speedtest shows the same results from APSU. Just a little bit slower then MT bandwidth test over the same link to the tower router. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 *From*: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net *Sent*: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:41 PM *To*: n...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue I know it should be roughly the same, but what does testing the powerbridge to the rocket show using ubiquiti's internal speed test, and what does the quality and capacity numbers look like while running the bandwidth from the customer side to the various towers? On 5/2/11 4:20 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Have a strange issue that is showing up in a few places. Was wondering what peoples thoughts are on this Here is how things are setup. Every tower has a Mikrotik router on it. And is OSPF Routed. Route to the customer is (Tower ATower BTower CTower DCustomer) Tower A is where we have fiber, And our colo for the purpose of this issue. Tower A and Tower B connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower B and Tower C connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower C and Tower D connect via un-licenced Backhaul and will do about 80Mb/s. Customer Connects to Tower D. AP is a 5ghz Rocket with a sector. SU is a Power Bridge. Now, Here is the bandwidth tests. Using the Mikrotik Bandwidth test to get these results. Testing over each Backhaul from each tower will always max out whatever backhaul I'm testing. IE. Tower ATower B will do ~250Mb/s BC ~250Mb/s CD ~80Mb/s Then Testing End to End Tower ATower D ~80Mb/s (Maxes out the weakest link, The BH between C and D. This is expected) Now, The Strange Part. Testing from the customers Mikrotik Router on site. Testing from CustomerTower D I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up. Testing from CustomerTower C I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up Testing from CustomerTower B I get about 15Mb/s Down and 30Mb/s up. Testing End to End Customer to Tower A I get about 15Mb/s Down And 30Mb/s Up. I don't get what is causing the customer location to show such slow speeds. I've tested multiple times, And Confirmed tons of free bandwidth on every Backhaul in the path. And testing Tower to Tower shows great speeds. We have the same problem in a few places. And in each case, We see a drop in speed as soon as it hits one of the licenced Backhauls. However, Each one of these backhauls regularly carries over 100Mb/s and have been tested to over 200Mb/s each time. Anyone have any ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
There has always been talk about the internet using a utility billing model, in which there is a minimum usage and then charged for anything over the minimum. Such as I pay for water, I get 3000 gallons for one price, anything over is charged by gallon. Electricity, Natural Gas and water all do this and now you see electric utilities giving you feedback to what you are using, smart metering. I suspect gas and water will follow suit, but being in the technical industry, there is no reason now that you can't be giving the client that information as well. -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 15:54:54 -0700 To follow through some thinking here... If that device was Billing-Server-Package-Aware then you could offer a higher level of service for HD customers that allowed the Netflix service to sense a higher-bandwidth connection and it may be more likely to stream in HD than SD. I say offer...the flip side of offer is charge for, at a higher rate, of course. There are always those who gotta have it... On 5/2/2011 3:50 PM, David E. Smith wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 17:32, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com mailto:coelh...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody worked on allowing streaming video up to lets say 10 Mb total transfer, then knocking THAT stream down to a slow rate? I tried something like that a while back - we got so very many angry phone calls that the boss had us discontinue it in less than a week. We actually didn't try to limit by video type, just any single ongoing TCP transaction, but in practice it only affected audio and video streaming, Microsoft Update, and MMO patches. I'm sure someone out there would be glad to sell you a content-aware filtering device for many thousands of dollars, if you're so inclined. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
As far as this bandwidth limiting stuff, I would suggest you guys look in to Butch Evans' QOS script for MT. Maybe ImageStream, too (I know there was a port in progress). It does this and as far as I know has worked flawlessly. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody worked on allowing streaming video up to lets say 10 Mb total transfer, then knocking THAT stream down to a slow rate? This would allow for your average utube streaming of a small video, but kill anything larger like netflix, hulu, etc. IP Tables and a dynamic script should be able to do this. Marco On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
Matt, Where did you come up with dividing the cost per megabit by 120? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: What is cost per megabit from your upstream? Divide your cost per megabit by 120 to get a good idea of your cost per gigabit at the NOC. If your paying $20 per megabit you would be at 0.17$ per GByte. Figuring your cost on the wireless network is nearly impossible. I am considering: Total cost of AP and BH wireless gear at site and used to feed site. Divided by 24 months. Add any rental. Divided by your total max available bandwidth. Divided by 2. Gives cost Mbps. A site could be six canopy 2.4 AP's and a CMM. Total max available bandwidth would be 60Mbps. Guessing prices. Bandwidth is 20$ Mbps. Price per GByte is 0.18$ I think that's too low but I did not figure/guess any BH gear cost. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters
Has anybody mounted wireless gear utility poles that are being used by power/phone etc with success? I'm towing with possibilities of doing this with ubnt M gear Power bridge backhaul and Rocket Omni for instant area immediate small area coverage -- Thanks, Cam Kilton WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters
Used some of these in a few deployments http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/Power-Tap-provides-power-access-from-l ighting-poles-6618 Made in Illinois. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support On 5/3/11 11:22 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Has anybody mounted wireless gear utility poles that are being used by power/phone etc with success? I'm towing with possibilities of doing this with ubnt M gear Power bridge backhaul and Rocket Omni for instant area immediate small area coverage -- Thanks, Cam Kilton -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters
I looked into that, and it was to much of a pain with the power co/city. I just go to home owners and free net gets it done. N5M/NB5M and a Pico. Waiting on rocket omnis to see if I will like those. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Has anybody mounted wireless gear utility poles that are being used by power/phone etc with success? I'm towing with possibilities of doing this with ubnt M gear Power bridge backhaul and Rocket Omni for instant area immediate small area coverage -- Thanks, Cam Kilton WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
Matt, Where did you come up with dividing the cost per megabit by 120? 1Mbps can upload and download 300Gbyte in a month each way. You must figure in your peak and off peak. In the end 120 works out pretty well. Doing the math on X number of users on an X sized circuit that was due to be upgraded the math came out right as well. Total user GByte consumption was roughly 120GByte per megabit used. This is with user upload and download added together. As more users push there usage towards prime time even more 120 may need to be lowered a bit. Too verify this add up all the bandwidth usage of all your users on a given circuit for month. Upload and download. Look at the graph of the circuit and divide the total GByte used in month by the peak Mbps for that month. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
Can this script be made available for everyone? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Toll free SIP termination
Is anyone here successfully using a carrier that does free termination of toll-free traffic via SIP? It would be nice to not pay for toll-free termination, but I need to maintain PSTN quality 100% of the time, pass caller ID, etc. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.commailto:shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
So you're saying 120 because, based on your network: 1 mbit fiber = 120 gigabytes bandwidth So to parallel 50mbit fiber = 6000 gigabytes bandwidth $10/mbit / 6000 gigs transported = 8.3c per gig Is that right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Matt, Where did you come up with dividing the cost per megabit by 120? 1Mbps can upload and download 300Gbyte in a month each way. You must figure in your peak and off peak. In the end 120 works out pretty well. Doing the math on X number of users on an X sized circuit that was due to be upgraded the math came out right as well. Total user GByte consumption was roughly 120GByte per megabit used. This is with user upload and download added together. As more users push there usage towards prime time even more 120 may need to be lowered a bit. Too verify this add up all the bandwidth usage of all your users on a given circuit for month. Upload and download. Look at the graph of the circuit and divide the total GByte used in month by the peak Mbps for that month. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
Joe - http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=24 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: Can this script be made available for everyone? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
What happens if/when you reboot the MT? Don't you lose your counts? I would think a better idea would be to use traffic flow and an external NetFlow analyzer. We are working on this for Wispmon as another way (other than radius accounting) to do usage based billing with the product. The downside to this is that the Traffic Flow stream as they call it, does not output the mac field (even though one is available according to the NetFlow spec). So if you are using DHCP, it becomes harder to track with this method as you would have to constantly poll the routers to find out what mac they are attached to. RADIUS is fairly cumbersome too as you have to sum all the accounting sessions for a given user over a given time period. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Joe - http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=24 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.comwrote: Can this script be made available for everyone? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
Data is stored in the comment of the queue. Requires 4.something On May 3, 2011 2:01 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: What happens if/when you reboot the MT? Don't you lose your counts? I would think a better idea would be to use traffic flow and an external NetFlow analyzer. We are working on this for Wispmon as another way (other than radius accounting) to do usage based billing with the product. The downside to this is that the Traffic Flow stream as they call it, does not output the mac field (even though one is available according to the NetFlow spec). So if you are using DHCP, it becomes harder to track with this method as you would have to constantly poll the routers to find out what mac they are attached to. RADIUS is fairly cumbersome too as you have to sum all the accounting sessions for a given user over a given time period. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Joe - http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=24 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: Can this script be made available for everyone? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
So you're saying 120 because, based on your network: 1 mbit fiber = 120 gigabytes bandwidth It can actually it can do 150G up and 150G down. But due to uploads being more expensive on a GPS network and peaks and lows I figure 120G. So to parallel 50mbit fiber = 6000 gigabytes bandwidth $10/mbit / 6000 gigs transported = 8.3c per gig Is that right? Yes, that works but easier to do: $10 / 120 = 8.3 cents a gig. On my backbones my average inbound traffic is about 40 percent of my peak on the daily graph. What is everybody else at? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
Thanks Josh...I think that this is what I'm looking for. Now to figure out how to get it loaded. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. Joe - http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=24 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: Can this script be made available for everyone? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
IIRC change the config variables at the top, copy and paste. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: Thanks Josh...I think that this is what I'm looking for. Now to figure out how to get it loaded. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:25 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. Joe - http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=24 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.comwrote: Can this script be made available for everyone? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
I have a very detailed breakdown of what we did to solve the UBB problem on my Wireless Cowboys blog. You can read it here: http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/?p=88 We went the NetFlow method and correlate customer IP addresses to their Freeside accounts to see who gets billed. Right now, the list of violators is pretty small so we do the overage billing manually.We have the option of building a batch transaction that gets imported into our billing system on the first of each month.We also built a portal for users to check their own bandwidth utilization, and our system sends emails to users when they go over and a summary email to our techs with a list of all the people that are over. Hope that helps. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com www.wirelesscowboys.com On 5/3/2011 12:00 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: What happens if/when you reboot the MT? Don't you lose your counts? I would think a better idea would be to use traffic flow and an external NetFlow analyzer. We are working on this for Wispmon as another way (other than radius accounting) to do usage based billing with the product. The downside to this is that the Traffic Flow stream as they call it, does not output the mac field (even though one is available according to the NetFlow spec). So if you are using DHCP, it becomes harder to track with this method as you would have to constantly poll the routers to find out what mac they are attached to. RADIUS is fairly cumbersome too as you have to sum all the accounting sessions for a given user over a given time period. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Joe - http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=24 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com mailto:joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: Can this script be made available for everyone? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 tel:228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com http://www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net mailto:spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
I did read that just yesterday, Matt. I noticed you don't have the 8 meg package on your website =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: I have a very detailed breakdown of what we did to solve the UBB problem on my Wireless Cowboys blog. You can read it here: http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/?p=88 We went the NetFlow method and correlate customer IP addresses to their Freeside accounts to see who gets billed. Right now, the list of violators is pretty small so we do the overage billing manually.We have the option of building a batch transaction that gets imported into our billing system on the first of each month.We also built a portal for users to check their own bandwidth utilization, and our system sends emails to users when they go over and a summary email to our techs with a list of all the people that are over. Hope that helps. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com www.wirelesscowboys.com On 5/3/2011 12:00 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: What happens if/when you reboot the MT? Don't you lose your counts? I would think a better idea would be to use traffic flow and an external NetFlow analyzer. We are working on this for Wispmon as another way (other than radius accounting) to do usage based billing with the product. The downside to this is that the Traffic Flow stream as they call it, does not output the mac field (even though one is available according to the NetFlow spec). So if you are using DHCP, it becomes harder to track with this method as you would have to constantly poll the routers to find out what mac they are attached to. RADIUS is fairly cumbersome too as you have to sum all the accounting sessions for a given user over a given time period. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Joe - http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=24 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.comwrote: Can this script be made available for everyone? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
8 meg package is not offered to residential customers, only to business customers.We still get crazy people who want 8meg in the middle of nowhere, eight hops away from our NOC - so we decided it was best not to advertise it. When we rollout some more AirMax, we are going to revise this and add 6,12 and 16meg plans for residential in the places where we have AirMax deployed and enough backbone to deliver it. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 5/3/2011 1:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I did read that just yesterday, Matt. I noticed you don't have the 8 meg package on your website =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com mailto:li...@manageisp.com wrote: I have a very detailed breakdown of what we did to solve the UBB problem on my Wireless Cowboys blog. You can read it here: http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/?p=88 We went the NetFlow method and correlate customer IP addresses to their Freeside accounts to see who gets billed. Right now, the list of violators is pretty small so we do the overage billing manually.We have the option of building a batch transaction that gets imported into our billing system on the first of each month.We also built a portal for users to check their own bandwidth utilization, and our system sends emails to users when they go over and a summary email to our techs with a list of all the people that are over. Hope that helps. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com http://vistabeam.com www.wirelesscowboys.com http://www.wirelesscowboys.com On 5/3/2011 12:00 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: What happens if/when you reboot the MT? Don't you lose your counts? I would think a better idea would be to use traffic flow and an external NetFlow analyzer. We are working on this for Wispmon as another way (other than radius accounting) to do usage based billing with the product. The downside to this is that the Traffic Flow stream as they call it, does not output the mac field (even though one is available according to the NetFlow spec). So if you are using DHCP, it becomes harder to track with this method as you would have to constantly poll the routers to find out what mac they are attached to. RADIUS is fairly cumbersome too as you have to sum all the accounting sessions for a given user over a given time period. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Joe - http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=24 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com mailto:joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: Can this script be made available for everyone? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 tel:228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com http://www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net mailto:spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
I'll send you the letter offline since you're a WISPA member... On 5/3/2011 6:05 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote: I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hoggch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
Postal or UPS? :) On May 3, 2011 4:50 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: I'll send you the letter offline since you're a WISPA member... On 5/3/2011 6:05 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote: I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hoggch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
Hehehe if you're my CUSTOMER then you will get one via postal... :) On 5/3/2011 1:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Postal or UPS? :) On May 3, 2011 4:50 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote: I'll send you the letter offline since you're a WISPA member... On 5/3/2011 6:05 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote: I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hoggch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
Just don't go postal, but yea sure I'd like to take a look at it. -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 13:58:30 -0700 Hehehe if you're my CUSTOMER then you will get one via postal... :) On 5/3/2011 1:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Postal or UPS? :) On May 3, 2011 4:50 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote: I'll send you the letter offline since you're a WISPA member... On 5/3/2011 6:05 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote: I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hoggch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
I already sent it to you like 30 minutes ago... From a different e-mail account. On 5/3/2011 2:33 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote: Just don't go postal, but yea sure I'd like to take a look at it. -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 13:58:30 -0700 Hehehe if you're my CUSTOMER then you will get one via postal... :) On 5/3/2011 1:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Postal or UPS? :) On May 3, 2011 4:50 PM, Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote: I'll send you the letter offline since you're a WISPA member... On 5/3/2011 6:05 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote: I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.netmailto:markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hoggch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.commailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.commailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters
Tranzeo had a device that you could screw into the electric eye of a streetlight to get power. -- Original Message -- From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 11:51:52 -0400 Used some of these in a few deployments http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/Power-Tap-provides-power-access-from-l ighting-poles-6618 Made in Illinois. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support On 5/3/11 11:22 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Has anybody mounted wireless gear utility poles that are being used by power/phone etc with success? I'm towing with possibilities of doing this with ubnt M gear Power bridge backhaul and Rocket Omni for instant area immediate small area coverage -- Thanks, Cam Kilton -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] USB over IP
Anyone have recommendations or experience with USB over IP devices? I picked up a SIIG device, but am having a hard time getting it to work over a routed network. I've even configured an EoIP tunnel between my house and remote tower, and bridged the interfaces. I've even adjusted MTUs. I can get their software to see the device, but can't manage/control it. Nick WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] USB over IP
Usb - Com Port then remote the Com port over ethernet Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: Nick White lists-wi...@atomsplash.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 15:18:28 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org; memb...@wispa.org; us...@wug.cc Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] USB over IP Anyone have recommendations or experience with USB over IP devices? I picked up a SIIG device, but am having a hard time getting it to work over a routed network. I've even configured an EoIP tunnel between my house and remote tower, and bridged the interfaces. I've even adjusted MTUs. I can get their software to see the device, but can't manage/control it. Nick WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Paetec drives Ethernet-over-copper to 100 Mb/s
http://connectedplanetonline.com/business_services/news/paetec-drives-copper -over-ethernet-to-100mbs-0503/ I wonder if this will help anyone with transport or backhaul costs. Thank You, Brian Webster http://www.wirelessmapping.com www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] USB over IP
Hmm. Not sure that would work. Maybe some more details on what I'm trying to do... trying to access a Xantrex power/charge controller (one at each tower), but it uses a proprietary Xanbus, which is USB. Xantrex Software - Local USB(Virtual USB) - SIIG USBoIP - Xanbus Adapter - Xantrex Controller Trying to consolidate management of all Xantrex devices onto one management computer running the Xantrex software. On 5/3/2011 3:26 PM, Aaron D. Osgood wrote: Usb - Com Port then remote the Com port over ethernet Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: Nick Whitelists-wi...@atomsplash.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 15:18:28 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org;memb...@wispa.org;us...@wug.cc Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] USB over IP Anyone have recommendations or experience with USB over IP devices? I picked up a SIIG device, but am having a hard time getting it to work over a routed network. I've even configured an EoIP tunnel between my house and remote tower, and bridged the interfaces. I've even adjusted MTUs. I can get their software to see the device, but can't manage/control it. Nick WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Paetec drives Ethernet-over-copper to 100 Mb/s
On 5/3/2011 6:29 PM, Brian Webster wrote: http://connectedplanetonline.com/business_services/news/paetec-drives-copper-over-ethernet-to-100mbs-0503/ I wonder if this will help anyone with transport or backhaul costs. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com I work for PAETEC in their Bethlehem Data Center at the DataTAC part of the Manged Services Goup. Leon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters
Tropos had a unit as well. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: Tranzeo had a device that you could screw into the electric eye of a streetlight to get power. -- Original Message -- From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 11:51:52 -0400 Used some of these in a few deployments http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/Power-Tap-provides-power-access-from-l ighting-poles-6618 Made in Illinois. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support On 5/3/11 11:22 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Has anybody mounted wireless gear utility poles that are being used by power/phone etc with success? I'm towing with possibilities of doing this with ubnt M gear Power bridge backhaul and Rocket Omni for instant area immediate small area coverage -- Thanks, Cam Kilton -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters
You can order them online. They are about 50 in qty. I'm looking for a source for just the adapter so if you stumble across one let me know. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On May 3, 2011, at 4:42 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.commailto:rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Tropos had a unit as well. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Stuart Pierce mailto:spie...@avolve.netspie...@avolve.netmailto:spie...@avolve.net wrote: Tranzeo had a device that you could screw into the electric eye of a streetlight to get power. -- Original Message -- From: Justin Wilson mailto:li...@mtin.netli...@mtin.netmailto:li...@mtin.net Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 11:51:52 -0400 Used some of these in a few deployments http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/Power-Tap-provides-power-access-from-l http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/Power-Tap-provides-power-access-from-l ighting-poles-6618 Made in Illinois. -- Justin Wilson mailto:j...@mtin.netj...@mtin.netmailto:j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/bloghttp://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support On 5/3/11 11:22 AM, Cameron Kilton mailto:c...@midcoast.comc...@midcoast.commailto:c...@midcoast.com wrote: Has anybody mounted wireless gear utility poles that are being used by power/phone etc with success? I'm towing with possibilities of doing this with ubnt M gear Power bridge backhaul and Rocket Omni for instant area immediate small area coverage -- Thanks, Cam Kilton -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at http://avolve.net avolve.nethttp://avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG ATT1.c WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
