Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers

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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

[Michwave Internet]

Dont use camo paint, most has metallic particles in it.


On 2/23/2012 2:38 PM, Jim Patient wrote:


Krylon Fusion but not red,  brown, or black.

Old hillbilly test is to paint a business card, let it dry, and 
microwave it.  If it gets hot don't use it.


Jim

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Hi Everyone,

We have a customer that we are putting in a ptmp 5.8ghz backhaul for 
wifi access points. Our customer is very big on aesthetics and would 
like to paint the omni that we are connecting the 5.8ghz backhaul AU to.


Does anyone know what kind of paint they should use to paint the 
antenna with?


I searched google and came up with epoxy paint. Is that correct?

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers

[Josh Luthman]

Best one:
http://jodies.de/ipcalc

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
 wrote:
>
> i have a subnet calculator - that's its name, too.  subnet calculator.
> justin michaelick or some author such...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Cameron Crum
> To: WISPA General List
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers
>
> For sure we haven't tested the mobile apps with ice-cream sandwich. We will
> soon.
>
> Cameron
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
>  wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking more along the lines of "Mixology".  Awesome program.
>>
>> I also use ICMPing, Droid LIght from Motorola, Quickoffice, Ping & DNS,
>> and I used to have a subnet calculator but can't find a new one.
>>
>> Wispmon also has a cool ap that uses GPS of your local and points you to
>> all of your towers.  Great for installs in the fog, snow, dark etc.  I
>> think.  It doesn't work with the latest droid update for my Motorola X2
>> phone  We're not on Verizon though, it's a smaller local cell company
>> that's tied in with Verizon.
>>
>> marlon
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Zach Mann
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Cc: Washington State WISP Discussion
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers
>>
>> GPS Status.   WiFi analyzer.
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2012 12:45 PM, "Pat O'Connor"  wrote:
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>>> are available for wireless installers.
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Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

i have a subnet calculator - that's its name, too.  subnet calculator.
justin michaelick or some author such...

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  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers


  For sure we haven't tested the mobile apps with ice-cream sandwich. We will 
soon.


  Cameron


  On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) 
 wrote:

I was thinking more along the lines of "Mixology".  Awesome program.

I also use ICMPing, Droid LIght from Motorola, Quickoffice, Ping & DNS, and 
I used to have a subnet calculator but can't find a new one.

Wispmon also has a cool ap that uses GPS of your local and points you to 
all of your towers.  Great for installs in the fog, snow, dark etc.  I think.  
It doesn't work with the latest droid update for my Motorola X2 phone  
We're not on Verizon though, it's a smaller local cell company that's tied in 
with Verizon.

marlon

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  Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:46 AM
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  GPS Status.   WiFi analyzer.  

  On Feb 24, 2012 12:45 PM, "Pat O'Connor"  wrote:

Upgrading to a smartphone, HTC Hero S.  Just wanted to see what tools
are available for wireless installers.

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Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers

[Cameron Crum]

For sure we haven't tested the mobile apps with ice-cream sandwich. We will
soon.

Cameron

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) <
o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:

> **
> I was thinking more along the lines of "Mixology".  Awesome program.
>
> I also use ICMPing, Droid LIght from Motorola, Quickoffice, Ping & DNS,
> and I used to have a subnet calculator but can't find a new one.
>
> Wispmon also has a cool ap that uses GPS of your local and points you to
> all of your towers.  Great for installs in the fog, snow, dark etc.  I
> think.  It doesn't work with the latest droid update for my Motorola X2
> phone  We're not on Verizon though, it's a smaller local cell company
> that's tied in with Verizon.
>
> marlon
>
>
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> *Cc:* Washington State WISP Discussion 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 10:46 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers
>
> GPS Status.   WiFi analyzer.
> On Feb 24, 2012 12:45 PM, "Pat O'Connor"  wrote:
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>> Upgrading to a smartphone, HTC Hero S.  Just wanted to see what tools
>> are available for wireless installers.
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Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers

[Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)]

I was thinking more along the lines of "Mixology".  Awesome program.

I also use ICMPing, Droid LIght from Motorola, Quickoffice, Ping & DNS, and I 
used to have a subnet calculator but can't find a new one.

Wispmon also has a cool ap that uses GPS of your local and points you to all of 
your towers.  Great for installs in the fog, snow, dark etc.  I think.  It 
doesn't work with the latest droid update for my Motorola X2 phone  We're 
not on Verizon though, it's a smaller local cell company that's tied in with 
Verizon.

marlon

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  Cc: Washington State WISP Discussion 
  Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers


  GPS Status.   WiFi analyzer.  

  On Feb 24, 2012 12:45 PM, "Pat O'Connor"  wrote:

Upgrading to a smartphone, HTC Hero S.  Just wanted to see what tools
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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

[Eric Muehleisen]

I have some experience. Hit me offlist.

-Eric

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> Any Trango 900 Users out there that might be able to help me with a issue
> I am working on?
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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

[Don Marino]

are you looking to buy any Trango 900s?  Then I may be able to help.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:46 PM, brandon jolley
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Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers

[Jim Patient]

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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:46 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers

Upgrading to a smartphone, HTC Hero S.  Just wanted to see what tools
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Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers

[David Hannum]

The Weather Cannel app is actually the one I use the most!

Dave Hannum
New Era Broadband, LLC

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

> Google Maps/Earth. Points to you to your towers.
>
> -Eric
>
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> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Pat O'Connor  wrote:
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>> Upgrading to a smartphone, HTC Hero S.  Just wanted to see what tools
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Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers

[Eric Muehleisen]

Google Maps/Earth. Points to you to your towers.

-Eric

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Re: [WISPA] What are the must have Android apps for installers

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GPS Status.   WiFi analyzer.
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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

[brandon jolley]

Hi
Any Trango 900 Users out there that might be able to help me with a issue I
am working on?
thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Upcoming Marathon Race

[LaRoy McCann]

My wife is running in that race.



On 2/23/2012 3:08 PM, Carl Shivers wrote:


We have an Marathon next week and the organizers have asked if we can 
supply connectivity. I had a spare UB Rocket M2 with a 90 degree 
sector antenna waiting for another job, so I decided to use this.


Here is basics on our config.

Access Point

Bridge Mode

SSID LittleRockMarathon

WPA-PKIP

Static Management IP

This will sit behind a router, which has a static WAN and will dish 
out IPs via DHCP on the LAN side.


That's about it, but we can't connect our laptops to the ssid.


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Re: [WISPA] painting an antenna

[Eric Roth]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm going to send them to my customer and
let them decide how they want to paint it.

 

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Network Engineer

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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:21 PM
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Quick answer... "stix" primer from Lowes 

 

A couple tips on Painting

 

You must use non-metalic non-carbon paint, to avoid RF loss.

 

As well, you must use a paint that bonds properly to your specific
material Steel, Aluminum, Plastic, ABS. There are many types of
plastics, and they each have their own chemical requirements for proper
paint type for bonding.  Many paint types used or  recommended by radio
manufacturer are paids for high production factory applications, and not
typically sold in small quantity and often require sprayers. 

 

The easiest way to solve the problem is to use a "Primer".  If you use the
proper primer, then you have the option to use a wide varierty of
inexpensive over the counter paints with worry free bonding.  

 

" Stix" is an excellent choice for Primer. Its sold at Lowes, inexpensive,
and can be used over metal and most plastics, such as those used most
commonly for Antenna radomes. 

 

After one coat of Stix, you can then paint over it with standard exterior
household latex paint.  We use Valspar Duramax Exterior Latex, with FLAT
finish, also sold at Lowes. 

(You still need to make sure paint is non-metallic/non-carbon, which the
Valspar is.) 

   

We prefer Flat instead of Gloss paints because, when an antenna is high on
a roof, glossy paint will reflect the sun more, and make the antenna look
like a bright light, and stand out like a sore thumb.

 

Primers are also easy. You'll will only need one coat of paint over the
primer. The paint should be applied over the primer before the primer is
fully dry, for optimal bond. (obviously not when the primer is still
wet.). Generally, paint can go on within 30min after primer applied.  

 

Using hardware store stock paint, allows you to save a bunch compared to
specialty paint stores. For example, a common Sherman Williams or
McCormick paint design for Plastic without a primer could easilly cost
$150-$200 a can, where as a gallon of ValSpar is $30, and Stix about $20.

 

What happens if you dont use a good primer, and just paint household paint
on Plastic? Well, within 6 months, the paint will be peeling off
everywhere and make a big mess.

 

If you have a good place to paint in advance, sure there are many good
choices for acrylics, enamels, or oil based. But using water based Latex
makes for easy clean up, and easy re-painting if ever needed, which works
well for field painting.

 

Dont get confused by all the different paint types, that cobine types, for
example acrylic latex, or acrylic enamel, etc. It doesn't really matter,
when painting over Stix. As long as using the good primer, Latex should
work fine.

 

The other thing is, painting over a pre-existing paint with the wrong type
can cause negative chemical reactions, and also cause poor bonding, or
peel after words.

The solution to that is to use the "Stix" primer. It can be painted over
most factory paints without worry, and allows most paints to be painted
over the Stix. 

The secret is the Primer, not the paint..

 

I'm not saying that Stix is the best, but I know Stix is non metalic and
non carbon and meets the requirements for antenna painting.  Many Primer
manufacturers do not like to disclose what their primer is made of because
its their secret competitive recipe, so its hard to get out of the
manufacturers whether it is metalic or carbon based or the loss it could
have to RF.

 

Another note, Paint looks a different color indoor than it does outdoors.
I'll mix it to look light, and then outside it will look to dark. So make
it lighter than you think you should. Also note, its much easier to make
paint darker, than it is to make it lighter. So if you make it to dark, it
takes a lot of paint added back to lighten it up.

 

As for color choice... I've had little luck painting to match the sky. The
reason is the color of the sky changes depending on the time of day and
the weather.  If trying to match the sky, use a lite (almost white) sky
blue. I prefer to match antenna paint to the same color as the building it
is mounted to, because a perfect match can be obtained, so it blends in
with the building, and does not stand out. Anythign a different color than
the building will draw the eye's attention to it. Painting to the sky
color only makes the antenna look transparent 25% of the day, when it
matches the sky, and the rest of the day when it doesn't, it stands out.  

 

 

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

 

 

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