Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

2012-09-25 Thread Mike Hammett
Cheap, just not the cheapest. ;-) There are others less expensive, such as 
Hurricane Electric. HE doesn't have nearly the same coverage, though.



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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
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It is cheap if they have presence! 
On Sep 24, 2012 5:55 PM, Zach Mann  zma...@gmail.com  wrote: 




Solid company ... Network very rarely has any blips. Not the cheapest when it 
comes to a gig though. 
On Sep 24, 2012 4:48 PM, Jason Hensley  ja...@hensleycrew.com  wrote: 


I have used them in the past and they were fantastic! I don't think I ever 
had downtime from them and the price was one of the best I found. I 
connected to them in St. Louis for what it's worth 



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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:32 PM 
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Subject: [WISPA] Cogent? 

Hi all, 

Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet pipe. 
Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been generally positive 
or negative? 

Thanks, 
Adam 
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[WISPA] Anyone have an Alvarion AU-NI-HP-2.4-08?

2012-09-25 Thread Rafman®
*Anyone have an Alvarion AU-NI-HP-2.4-08 they would be willing to part with?
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Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

2012-09-25 Thread Nick Olsen
Never really had a problem with them. (Or any downtime that wasn't 
maintenance related..)

As others said, Tier 1 tech support has a clue. And can actually complete 
BGP functions. Email based support is fast (Like updating prefix filters).

You get the speeds to pay for. The one thing they do however is 
de-prioritise ICMP on their routers. So traceroutes look poor to the 
untrained eye. Someone will say, I trace to google and as soon as it hits 
cogent the ping goes up to 200ms with packet loss! I point out that the end 
hop is fine and that's just how cogent works.

Oh, And if your circuit is under Gigabit, and your running BGP you have to 
do this whole A peer B peer type setup with multihop BGP. Which is a bit 
annoying. But Gig and above you are interfaced right into their main router 
for that location and hold a session with your neighbor.

Nick Olsen
Network Operations (855) FLSPEED  x106


 From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:31 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Cogent?

Hi all,

Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet 
pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been generally 
positive or negative?

Thanks,
Adam
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Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

2012-09-25 Thread Jim Patient
I've had them for over 3 years now and had zero downtime on their side.
If I have a fiber issue and drop a few packets, they are calling my cell
letting me know there is packet loss:-)  We are also connected in one of
the St Louis data centers.

Jim

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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:49 PM
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I have used them in the past and they were fantastic!  I don't think I
ever had downtime from them and the price was one of the best I found.
I connected to them in St. Louis for what  it's worth



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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:32 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Cogent?

Hi all,

Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet
pipe.
Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been generally
positive or negative?

Thanks,
Adam
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Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

2012-09-25 Thread Jim Patient
We are BGP peered with Cogent and HE on IPv6.  I just noticed almost 19K
IPv6 routes now.  That table is growing pretty fast.  


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Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

Great network. Great support. Much better than they were 5 years
ago.  As with any other provider they do have issues from time to time.
It goes without saying get 2 upstreams and do BGP.

Justin

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Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:31 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Cogent?

Hi all,

Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet 
pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been 
generally positive or negative?

Thanks,
Adam
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Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

2012-09-25 Thread Gerard Dupont III
Jim,

IPv6 is an interesting topic with Cogent. We're receiving 11k routes
from HE, Level3, and TWTC, but only ~8800 from Cogent. Cogent is not
providing full routes on IPv6 because they do not peer with HE.  Llast
time I asked they have no plans of doing anything about it.

I really wouldn't recommend anyone use Cogent as their sole provider.
Cogent only has a single route to/from many of their pops. For example
almost a month ago there was almost a week long outage in the New
Orleans market when their transit provider had a cut. Looking at their
network map shows multiple routes out of New Orleans though.

Overall I've been very pleased with the performance of their network.
Their support has been very knowledgeable and maintenance requests (ie
prefix updates) have been handled in less than an hour.

Gerard


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote:
 We are BGP peered with Cogent and HE on IPv6.  I just noticed almost 19K
 IPv6 routes now.  That table is growing pretty fast.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Justin Wilson
 Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

 Great network. Great support. Much better than they were 5 years
 ago.  As with any other provider they do have issues from time to time.
 It goes without saying get 2 upstreams and do BGP.

 Justin

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 Subject: [WISPA] Cogent?

Hi all,

Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet
pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been
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Thanks,
Adam
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Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

2012-09-25 Thread Adam Greene
Thanks all. Glad feedback is almost all positive. Not glad about that 
New Orleans experience.


On 9/25/2012 2:30 PM, Gerard Dupont III wrote:
 Jim,

 IPv6 is an interesting topic with Cogent. We're receiving 11k routes
 from HE, Level3, and TWTC, but only ~8800 from Cogent. Cogent is not
 providing full routes on IPv6 because they do not peer with HE.  Llast
 time I asked they have no plans of doing anything about it.

 I really wouldn't recommend anyone use Cogent as their sole provider.
 Cogent only has a single route to/from many of their pops. For example
 almost a month ago there was almost a week long outage in the New
 Orleans market when their transit provider had a cut. Looking at their
 network map shows multiple routes out of New Orleans though.

 Overall I've been very pleased with the performance of their network.
 Their support has been very knowledgeable and maintenance requests (ie
 prefix updates) have been handled in less than an hour.

 Gerard


 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote:
 We are BGP peered with Cogent and HE on IPv6.  I just noticed almost 19K
 IPv6 routes now.  That table is growing pretty fast.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Justin Wilson
 Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

  Great network. Great support. Much better than they were 5 years
 ago.  As with any other provider they do have issues from time to time.
 It goes without saying get 2 upstreams and do BGP.

  Justin

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 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Cogent?

 Hi all,

 Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet
 pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been
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 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Cogent?

2012-09-25 Thread Josh Luthman
You find me a provider that has 100% uptime over 5 years and I'll show you
someone who doesn't know the entire story.  There's always going to be an
accident or mistake.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net wrote:

 Thanks all. Glad feedback is almost all positive. Not glad about that
 New Orleans experience.


 On 9/25/2012 2:30 PM, Gerard Dupont III wrote:
  Jim,
 
  IPv6 is an interesting topic with Cogent. We're receiving 11k routes
  from HE, Level3, and TWTC, but only ~8800 from Cogent. Cogent is not
  providing full routes on IPv6 because they do not peer with HE.  Llast
  time I asked they have no plans of doing anything about it.
 
  I really wouldn't recommend anyone use Cogent as their sole provider.
  Cogent only has a single route to/from many of their pops. For example
  almost a month ago there was almost a week long outage in the New
  Orleans market when their transit provider had a cut. Looking at their
  network map shows multiple routes out of New Orleans though.
 
  Overall I've been very pleased with the performance of their network.
  Their support has been very knowledgeable and maintenance requests (ie
  prefix updates) have been handled in less than an hour.
 
  Gerard
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net
 wrote:
  We are BGP peered with Cogent and HE on IPv6.  I just noticed almost 19K
  IPv6 routes now.  That table is growing pretty fast.
 
 
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  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Justin Wilson
  Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:30 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent?
 
   Great network. Great support. Much better than they were 5
 years
  ago.  As with any other provider they do have issues from time to time.
  It goes without saying get 2 upstreams and do BGP.
 
   Justin
 
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  -Original Message-
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  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Date: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:31 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Cogent?
 
  Hi all,
 
  Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet
  pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been
  generally positive or negative?
 
  Thanks,
  Adam
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