Re: [WISPA] 802.11 and roaming
It sounds like you didn't try Cisco CAPWAP controller based APs. You have very fine control of how they roam. John Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: I've tried MikroTik. I've tried Cisco. I've tried UniFi. I pretty much don't think there is a working way to roam from AP to AP with 802.11 in an open system. The client holds on to the weak AP long after there are stronger AP's to talk to. I think this is just the way it works. Now, we are giving each AP a unique ESSID but keeping them bridged on the wired side and requiring the user to change the connection when out of range... Not the best answer, but it works much better for the clients who don't move much... I'd love a better answer... -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 and roaming
UBNT is only on encrypted networks. I think all of them will require you use the same channel. There is nothing in the protocol that supports roaming, so it's all tricks the AP vendor does to make it work. UBNT, Ruckus, Cisco, etc. all have some form of roaming solution. Some better than others. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:15:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 and roaming They may claim it,(UBNT) but, as far as I can tell it doesn't work on an open network. Haven't tried on an encrypted network. 3.1.3 software. All were on same ESSID, but different channels. Chose channels to minimize interference. Users work just fine as long as they can only see one AP. When they can see more than one some users seem to jump back and forth. Some will grab one AP in a death grip and keep it to -88. Some just freeze for a min or two. This is a public area, fairground, and as best I can tell, users just can't roam reliably. Of course, LOTS of noise! I remember reading something once about being able to shut down 'rogue AP's', i.e. AP's that don't belong to the fairground, but I can't remember who that was. Maybe that would cut the noise. -- On 9/7/2013 11:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The new Unifi will. Cisco I think will. The truck is to have the same bssid and essid on all the APs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 7, 2013 11:20 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: blockquote I've tried MikroTik. I've tried Cisco. I've tried UniFi. I pretty much don't think there is a working way to roam from AP to AP with 802.11 in an open system. The client holds on to the weak AP long after there are stronger AP's to talk to. I think this is just the way it works. Now, we are giving each AP a unique ESSID but keeping them bridged on the wired side and requiring the user to change the connection when out of range... Not the best answer, but it works much better for the clients who don't move much... I'd love a better answer... -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless /blockquote -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 and roaming
I have done roaming with UBNT as long as the SSID is all the same and you place each radio at the edge of the coverage it works grate — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: UBNT is only on encrypted networks. I think all of them will require you use the same channel. There is nothing in the protocol that supports roaming, so it's all tricks the AP vendor does to make it work. UBNT, Ruckus, Cisco, etc. all have some form of roaming solution. Some better than others. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:15:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 and roaming They may claim it,(UBNT) but, as far as I can tell it doesn't work on an open network. Haven't tried on an encrypted network. 3.1.3 software. All were on same ESSID, but different channels. Chose channels to minimize interference. Users work just fine as long as they can only see one AP. When they can see more than one some users seem to jump back and forth. Some will grab one AP in a death grip and keep it to -88. Some just freeze for a min or two. This is a public area, fairground, and as best I can tell, users just can't roam reliably. Of course, LOTS of noise! I remember reading something once about being able to shut down 'rogue AP's', i.e. AP's that don't belong to the fairground, but I can't remember who that was. Maybe that would cut the noise. -- On 9/7/2013 11:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The new Unifi will. Cisco I think will. The truck is to have the same bssid and essid on all the APs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 7, 2013 11:20 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: blockquote I've tried MikroTik. I've tried Cisco. I've tried UniFi. I pretty much don't think there is a working way to roam from AP to AP with 802.11 in an open system. The client holds on to the weak AP long after there are stronger AP's to talk to. I think this is just the way it works. Now, we are giving each AP a unique ESSID but keeping them bridged on the wired side and requiring the user to change the connection when out of range... Not the best answer, but it works much better for the clients who don't move much... I'd love a better answer... -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless /blockquote -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 and roaming
This is the key you were looking for, but there is more. If you are using MT clients, you can use areas and then you do not have to have the same SSID. On 9/7/2013 11:32 PM, Amin Dashti wrote: Have you checked Mikrotik's wireless access list? Configure Signal Strength Range option to disconnect sticky wireless clients (who have low signal) Best, Amin Amin Dashti Mikrotik Info (949)385-2171 dash...@mikrotikinfo.com mailto:dash...@mikrotikinfo.com *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Blair Davis *Sent:* Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:20 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] 802.11 and roaming I've tried MikroTik. I've tried Cisco. I've tried UniFi. I pretty much don't think there is a working way to roam from AP to AP with 802.11 in an open system. The client holds on to the weak AP long after there are stronger AP's to talk to. I think this is just the way it works. Now, we are giving each AP a unique ESSID but keeping them bridged on the wired side and requiring the user to change the connection when out of range... Not the best answer, but it works much better for the clients who don't move much... I'd love a better answer... -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6645 - Release Date: 09/07/13 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
