Re: [WISPA] Siklu/Dragonwave 80 Ghz..

2013-10-21 Thread Fred Goldstein 
On 10/14/2013 11:08 PM, Robert wrote:
> What are the max distances these will do with the 3 foot dishes?
> (moderate rain, not tropical rain)...
>

I don't think we have pushed the envelope here.  I've seen the charts, 
though.  It very much depends on your tolerance for outages.  If this is 
the sole link to some place, and it is mission-critical, then you can't 
tolerate much down time and you can get really hurt by rain.  If the 
rain is falling 40 mm/hour, it could knock around 15 dB/km off your 
path, which doesn't get you very far.  But that's unusual here in the 
northeast; most storms are maybe half that strong. Three or four miles 
should be quite reliable; a 10-mile link might be workable if you have a 
fallback path, but we haven't done it.

> On 10/14/2013 07:47 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
>> On 10/14/2013 7:33 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:
>>> OK.  So a customer pops up out of no where and says he is interested in
>>> one of these links.  Does anyone have any positive/negative/neutral
>>> comments/experience?
>>>
>>> On or off list
>>>
>>
>> We have a few Dragonwaves going, 50 and 200 Mbps, some for a few miles
>> in an urban core environment, and they seem pretty nice.  The licensed
>> 80 GHz band has much better range than unlicensed 60 GHz, though of
>> course the very narrow beamwidth means you have to have a good antenna
>> mount and be careful about storm damage, or about some bozo working on
>> the roof who disturbs it.
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Re: [WISPA] Mixed Single and dual polarity?

2013-10-21 Thread Luciano - Computech 
Yes

For example. If you mix an Airgrid 1x1 in a Sector that you have only 2x2 
radios link NSM5 NB22 LocoM5 or NB25 in the time that it will transmit your 
entire sector performance will fell down to 1x1 in the lowest MCS that your 
Airgrid has in these airtime. 

So here we recommend to separate 1x1 sectors using Bullet as an AP with Aigrids 
as a CPE. 
And 2x2 sectors Rocket as an AP and LocoM5 and NSM5 and NBs. 

Obviously 2x2 will cost a little more but will give you 2x more throughput. 

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Em 10/10/2013, às 16:35, Josh Luthman  escreveu:

> You mean in Ubnt?  It's not devastating, but your 1x1 clients are eating up 
> twice as much time doing the same work a 2x2 radio would do.  Cuts your APs 
> capacity in half while using the full spectrum =(
> 
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> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Robert Andrews  
> wrote:
>> Simple questions:
>> 
>>  1) Does anyone have experience running systems with mixed clients?
>> i.e. Dual polarity AP and mixed single and dual polarity clients?
>> 
>>  2) Is anyone willing to summarize their experiences?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
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[WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides

2013-10-21 Thread Matt 
I was told Wispa members would be able to download the slides from the
show and they were uploaded already for fiber weekend.  I cannot seem
to find them anywhere on Wispa.org even when logged in.  Where are
they?

Also, when and where will the videos of the show be uploaded?
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Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides

2013-10-21 Thread Josh Luthman 
It'll be a short while for everyone to recover, get back to work, and get
that massive amount of information together.  It will come, just be patient
=)


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On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Matt  wrote:

> I was told Wispa members would be able to download the slides from the
> show and they were uploaded already for fiber weekend.  I cannot seem
> to find them anywhere on Wispa.org even when logged in.  Where are
> they?
>
> Also, when and where will the videos of the show be uploaded?
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Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides

2013-10-21 Thread Scott Reed 
Nathan did tell us the Fiber Weekend slides are up, but I can not find 
that I noted where they are.


On 10/21/2013 11:55 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
It'll be a short while for everyone to recover, get back to work, and 
get that massive amount of information together.  It will come, just 
be patient =)



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On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Matt > wrote:


I was told Wispa members would be able to download the slides from the
show and they were uploaded already for fiber weekend.  I cannot seem
to find them anywhere on Wispa.org even when logged in.  Where are
they?

Also, when and where will the videos of the show be uploaded?
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Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides

2013-10-21 Thread Sam Tetherow 
Go to the wispapalooza event page and scroll through the agenda.  At the 
top of each session there is a link for 'Presentation' which contains 
the slides if they have been uploaded already.

On 10/21/2013 10:51 AM, Matt wrote:
> I was told Wispa members would be able to download the slides from the
> show and they were uploaded already for fiber weekend.  I cannot seem
> to find them anywhere on Wispa.org even when logged in.  Where are
> they?
>
> Also, when and where will the videos of the show be uploaded?
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Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides

2013-10-21 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller 


I just looked - apparently they are not all up yet.  For example, looking at 
the wispapalooza page, then agenda, then each event - there is a hyperlink as 
part of the description that says "presentation"

a few of them say "no presentation"



  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:51 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides


  I was told Wispa members would be able to download the slides from the
  show and they were uploaded already for fiber weekend.  I cannot seem
  to find them anywhere on Wispa.org even when logged in.  Where are
  they?

  Also, when and where will the videos of the show be uploaded?
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Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides

2013-10-21 Thread Sam Tetherow 
Looks like only the fiber slides so far.  I'm sure it won't be too long 
for the rest.

On 10/21/2013 11:13 AM, Sam Tetherow wrote:
> Go to the wispapalooza event page and scroll through the agenda.  At the
> top of each session there is a link for 'Presentation' which contains
> the slides if they have been uploaded already.
>
> On 10/21/2013 10:51 AM, Matt wrote:
>> I was told Wispa members would be able to download the slides from the
>> show and they were uploaded already for fiber weekend.  I cannot seem
>> to find them anywhere on Wispa.org even when logged in.  Where are
>> they?
>>
>> Also, when and where will the videos of the show be uploaded?
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Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides

2013-10-21 Thread Scott Reed 
No presentation will mean just that after Nathan gets the ones that he 
has up.


On 10/21/2013 12:17 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
I just looked - apparently they are not all up yet.  For example, 
looking at the wispapalooza page, then agenda, then each event - there 
is a hyperlink as part of the description that says "presentation"

a few of them say "no presentation"

- Original Message -
*From:* Matt 
*To:* WISPA General List 
*Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2013 10:51 AM
*Subject:* [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides

I was told Wispa members would be able to download the slides from the
show and they were uploaded already for fiber weekend.  I cannot seem
to find them anywhere on Wispa.org even when logged in.  Where are
they?

Also, when and where will the videos of the show be uploaded?
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