[WISPA] Banswidth usage
I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 inline: flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? From: Ben West Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
Torrents and viruses would be super high. Isn't 1 GB/hour about 2mbps? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote: Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
Sorry, it's 2.22mbps http://web.forret.com/tools/bandwidth.asp?speed=1unit=GB%2Fh Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Torrents and viruses would be super high. Isn't 1 GB/hour about 2mbps? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote: Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? *From:* Ben West b...@gowasabi.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: flag.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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Your Mikrotik routers. ;-)-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.comFrom: "~NGL~" n...@ngl.netTo: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.orgSent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:05:33 PMSubject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? From: Ben West Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can theybe doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher.And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!___Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless-- Ben West http://gowasabi.netb...@gowasabi.net314-246-9434 ___Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
You can ssh into the nanostation and use tcpdump to see what the traffic is and where it is going. On 02/18/2014 12:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? From: Ben West Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can theybe doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? From: Ben West Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can theybe doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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Linux... wasn't he the guy with the blanket? ;-)-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.comFrom: "Josh Reynolds" j...@spitwspots.comTo: wireless@wispa.orgSent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:15:44 PMSubject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? From: Ben West Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can theybe doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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Hah! :) Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:16 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Linux... wasn't he the guy with the blanket? ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Josh Reynolds" j...@spitwspots.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:15:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? From: Ben West Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can theybe doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434
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How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? *From:* Ben West b...@gowasabi.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: image/gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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Netflix at 480p does about 3 to 5 megabits per second. That upstream number looks high for Netflix. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On February 18, 2014 9:51:51 AM ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can theybe doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher.And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? From: Ben West Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can theybe doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
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If you're handy with an SSH console, and you can log in directly to the Nanostation in question, this command can dump a list of all active connections: cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack If you know the IP address issued to the client in question, or you want to filter the list to active UDP connections, you can use grep: grep udp /proc/net/ip_conntrack grep 192.168.x.x /proc/net/ip_conntrack # where 192.168.x.x is client's IP This works on Picostations running UniFi, should work on AirMax too. Indeed, it will probably work on an 802.11g-generation Nanostation as well. This is just querying netstate state info from the Linux kernel. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: Netflix at 480p does about 3 to 5 megabits per second. That upstream number looks high for Netflix. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On February 18, 2014 9:51:51 AM ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 inline: INL1___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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Why not just have the client remove the torrent from their computers? NGL From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:17 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Hah! :) Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:16 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Linux... wasn't he the guy with the blanket? ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:15:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? From: Ben West Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless image/gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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Right, forgot iptraf isn't on there. It's on our EdgeRouters and all of our servers. Don't understand what 16MB of mem/flash has anything to do with header capture. Try it, let it run for several hours. I promise you will have no problem. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:18 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? From: Ben West Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can theybe doing? NGL If
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.comwrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? *From:* Ben West b...@gowasabi.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: image/gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
You're running tcpdump in an SSH session. All the data gets displayed on the ssh client, it doesn't stay on the nanostation or whatever device you're running. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, "Sam Tetherow" tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? From: Ben West Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections?
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Sure for currently active traffic. But I think OP is after something a bit different. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: You're running tcpdump in an SSH session. All the data gets displayed on the ssh client, it doesn't stay on the nanostation or whatever device you're running. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.comwrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? *From:* Ben West b...@gowasabi.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: image/gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
It's kind of hard to score a touchdown when you keep moving the goal line. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sure for currently active traffic. But I think OP is after something a bit different. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: You're running tcpdump in an SSH session. All the data gets displayed on the ssh client, it doesn't stay on the nanostation or whatever device you're running. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, "Sam Tetherow" tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
Not if it is moving towards you. ;-)-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.comFrom: "Josh Reynolds" j...@spitwspots.comTo: wireless@wispa.orgSent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:03:57 PMSubject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage It's kind of hard to score a touchdown when you keep moving the goal line. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sure for currently active traffic. But I think OP is after something a bit different. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: You're running tcpdump in an SSH session. All the data gets displayed on the ssh client, it doesn't stay on the nanostation or whatever device you're running. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, "Sam Tetherow" tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth usage
So how do you stop torrents? NGL From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:03 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage It's kind of hard to score a touchdown when you keep moving the goal line. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sure for currently active traffic. But I think OP is after something a bit different. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: You're running tcpdump in an SSH session. All the data gets displayed on the ssh client, it doesn't stay on the nanostation or whatever device you're running. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? From: Ben West Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth usage
Bill for overusage. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 02/18/2014 11:08 AM, ~NGL~ wrote: So how do you stop torrents? NGL *From:* Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:03 AM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage It's kind of hard to score a touchdown when you keep moving the goal line. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sure for currently active traffic. But I think OP is after something a bit different. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: You're running tcpdump in an SSH session. All the data gets displayed on the ssh client, it doesn't stay on the nanostation or whatever device you're running. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net mailto:n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? *From:* Ben West mailto:b...@gowasabi.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net mailto:n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
ip_conntrack is only there if the radio is doing NAT (OP didn't say one way or the other) On 02/18/2014 12:30 PM, Ben West wrote: If you're handy with an SSH console, and you can log in directly to the Nanostation in question, this command can dump a list of all active connections: cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack If you know the IP address issued to the client in question, or you want to filter the list to active UDP connections, you can use grep: grep udp /proc/net/ip_conntrack grep 192.168.x.x /proc/net/ip_conntrack # where 192.168.x.x is client's IP This works on Picostations running UniFi, should work on AirMax too. Indeed, it will probably work on an 802.11g-generation Nanostation as well. This is just querying netstate state info from the Linux kernel. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: Netflix at 480p does about 3 to 5 megabits per second. That upstream number looks high for Netflix. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On February 18, 2014 9:51:51 AM "~NGL~" n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can theybe doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] IDS/IPS
I'm looking for recommendations for a IDS/IPS system for our network. Need IPS on our border and IDS inside. We are a bridged/NAT'd network. Thoughts? Dave Hannum New Era Broadband ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
If the radio did 19x9 in 18 hours it should be pretty obvious what is eating all the traffic. If you want to look at historical traffic he is going to need to be running (and capturing) netflow data. On 02/18/2014 01:00 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sure for currently active traffic. But I think OP is after something a bit different. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: You're running tcpdump in an SSH session. All the data gets displayed on the ssh client, it doesn't stay on the nanostation or whatever device you're running. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, "Sam Tetherow" tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. Josh Reynolds Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how.
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth usage
My torrents are encrypted over port 443 in a tunnel to a registered tracker. But if they are using plain ol' piratebay or equivalent a box like that will work fine to block it. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 02/18/2014 11:15 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: We do L7 QoS / shaping / filtering at our head end with a very expensive IPOQUE PRX device, and explicitly block torrents. It's also discussed in our ToS. The only way I've found to get around it is by using a socks proxy to another country just for torrent traffic. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:08 AM, ~NGL~ wrote: So how do you stop torrents? NGL *From:* Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:03 AM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage It's kind of hard to score a touchdown when you keep moving the goal line. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sure for currently active traffic. But I think OP is after something a bit different. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: You're running tcpdump in an SSH session. All the data gets displayed on the ssh client, it doesn't stay on the nanostation or whatever device you're running. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net mailto:n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? *From:* Ben West mailto:b...@gowasabi.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net mailto:n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has
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And to us, if they're tunneled, they're not stressing our network. :) On Feb 18, 2014 10:18 AM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: My torrents are encrypted over port 443 in a tunnel to a registered tracker. But if they are using plain ol' piratebay or equivalent a box like that will work fine to block it. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 02/18/2014 11:15 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: We do L7 QoS / shaping / filtering at our head end with a very expensive IPOQUE PRX device, and explicitly block torrents. It's also discussed in our ToS. The only way I've found to get around it is by using a socks proxy to another country just for torrent traffic. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:08 AM, ~NGL~ wrote: So how do you stop torrents? NGL *From:* Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:03 AM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage It's kind of hard to score a touchdown when you keep moving the goal line. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sure for currently active traffic. But I think OP is after something a bit different. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: You're running tcpdump in an SSH session. All the data gets displayed on the ssh client, it doesn't stay on the nanostation or whatever device you're running. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net mailto:n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? *From:* Ben West mailto:b...@gowasabi.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down
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Which is why you really should limit the behavior and not the application. The problem isn't because they are torrents, it is because the a) use a lot of download bandwidth b) use a lot of upload bandwidth c) have a high pps d) have a large connection count. Pick which one is affecting your network and limit that rather than trying to limit a specific application. That way you are fixing the problem and not chasing today's cause of the problem. On 02/18/2014 01:18 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: My torrents are encrypted over port 443 in a tunnel to a registered tracker. But if they are using plain ol' piratebay or equivalent a box like that will work fine to block it. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 02/18/2014 11:15 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: We do L7 QoS / shaping / filtering at our head end with a very expensive IPOQUE PRX device, and explicitly block torrents. It's also discussed in our ToS. The only way I've found to get around it is by using a socks proxy to another country just for torrent traffic. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:08 AM, ~NGL~ wrote: So how do you stop torrents? NGL *From:* Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:03 AM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage It's kind of hard to score a touchdown when you keep moving the goal line. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sure for currently active traffic. But I think OP is after something a bit different. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: You're running tcpdump in an SSH session. All the data gets displayed on the ssh client, it doesn't stay on the nanostation or whatever device you're running. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net mailto:n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? *From:* Ben West mailto:b...@gowasabi.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM *To:* WISPA General List
Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage
I do this all the time in bridged mode. Not hard at all... *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:18 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? *From:* Ben West b...@gowasabi.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: image001.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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TCPdump that is. Not netstat *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:18 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check for UDP connections, I am using Nanostations? *From:* Ben West b...@gowasabi.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:57 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage Torrents can consume up and down bandwidth with no limit, depending on how the client is set up. Do you see that customer opening many many many UDP connections? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:50 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: image001.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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I thought conntrack only work for nanostations setup in router mode? *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben West *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:31 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage If you're handy with an SSH console, and you can log in directly to the Nanostation in question, this command can dump a list of all active connections: cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack If you know the IP address issued to the client in question, or you want to filter the list to active UDP connections, you can use grep: grep udp /proc/net/ip_conntrack grep 192.168.x.x /proc/net/ip_conntrack # where 192.168.x.x is client's IP This works on Picostations running UniFi, should work on AirMax too. Indeed, it will probably work on an 802.11g-generation Nanostation as well. This is just querying netstate state info from the Linux kernel. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: Netflix at 480p does about 3 to 5 megabits per second. That upstream number looks high for Netflix. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On February 18, 2014 9:51:51 AM ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 inline: image001.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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I don't have an AirMAX unit or 802.11g-era UBNT device on hand to verify this. The conntrack table was populated on the picostation M2 running UniFI where I just tried it, and that unit is in bridge mode. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.netwrote: I thought conntrack only work for nanostations setup in router mode? *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben West *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:31 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage If you're handy with an SSH console, and you can log in directly to the Nanostation in question, this command can dump a list of all active connections: cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack If you know the IP address issued to the client in question, or you want to filter the list to active UDP connections, you can use grep: grep udp /proc/net/ip_conntrack grep 192.168.x.x /proc/net/ip_conntrack # where 192.168.x.x is client's IP This works on Picostations running UniFi, should work on AirMax too. Indeed, it will probably work on an 802.11g-generation Nanostation as well. This is just querying netstate state info from the Linux kernel. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: Netflix at 480p does about 3 to 5 megabits per second. That upstream number looks high for Netflix. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On February 18, 2014 9:51:51 AM ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 inline: image001.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth usage
How do I set limits on Nanostations? NGL -- From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:26 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth usage Which is why you really should limit the behavior and not the application. The problem isn't because they are torrents, it is because the a) use a lot of download bandwidth b) use a lot of upload bandwidth c) have a high pps d) have a large connection count. Pick which one is affecting your network and limit that rather than trying to limit a specific application. That way you are fixing the problem and not chasing today's cause of the problem. On 02/18/2014 01:18 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: My torrents are encrypted over port 443 in a tunnel to a registered tracker. But if they are using plain ol' piratebay or equivalent a box like that will work fine to block it. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 02/18/2014 11:15 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: We do L7 QoS / shaping / filtering at our head end with a very expensive IPOQUE PRX device, and explicitly block torrents. It's also discussed in our ToS. The only way I've found to get around it is by using a socks proxy to another country just for torrent traffic. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:08 AM, ~NGL~ wrote: So how do you stop torrents? NGL *From:* Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:03 AM *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage It's kind of hard to score a touchdown when you keep moving the goal line. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 10:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sure for currently active traffic. But I think OP is after something a bit different. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: You're running tcpdump in an SSH session. All the data gets displayed on the ssh client, it doesn't stay on the nanostation or whatever device you're running. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: For an hour? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 18, 2014 1:30 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Not sure I understand what the problem is. I use tcpdump all the time on a nanostation to check traffic out. On 02/18/2014 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: How are you going to tcpdump with 16 MB of memory/flash? netstat would be pretty hard to read if it's bridge mode and iptraf doesn't exist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Horsepoopy tcpdump / netstat / iptraf See, before there was Mikrotik, there was this thing called Linux. Once upon a time, people actually knew how to use it. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 02/18/2014 09:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you're limited to Nanostations, you're going to have to do a packet capture some how. Mikrotik would make this much much much easier. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net mailto:n...@ngl.net wrote: How do I check
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Bridged radio... # cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack cat: can't open '/proc/net/ip_conntrack': No such file or directory Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote: I don't have an AirMAX unit or 802.11g-era UBNT device on hand to verify this. The conntrack table was populated on the picostation M2 running UniFI where I just tried it, and that unit is in bridge mode. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.netwrote: I thought conntrack only work for nanostations setup in router mode? *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben West *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:31 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Banswidth usage If you're handy with an SSH console, and you can log in directly to the Nanostation in question, this command can dump a list of all active connections: cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack If you know the IP address issued to the client in question, or you want to filter the list to active UDP connections, you can use grep: grep udp /proc/net/ip_conntrack grep 192.168.x.x /proc/net/ip_conntrack # where 192.168.x.x is client's IP This works on Picostations running UniFi, should work on AirMax too. Indeed, it will probably work on an 802.11g-generation Nanostation as well. This is just querying netstate state info from the Linux kernel. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: Netflix at 480p does about 3 to 5 megabits per second. That upstream number looks high for Netflix. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On February 18, 2014 9:51:51 AM ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have a customer that has used 19 GBytes down and 9 GBytes up in the last 18 hours. What does a smart TV use? What can they be doing? NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ben West http://gowasabi.net b...@gowasabi.net 314-246-9434 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: image001.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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The ability to apply these kinds of filters in UBNT and Mikrotik firmware will be limited, but I've had moderate success using Boyer-Moore filters with iptables in OpenWRT land. The commands below are for a chain labeled p2pblock, through which all incoming NAT traffic to be forwarded, ports 1024 above, are piped. Not 100% by any measure, but it does help to unambiguously identify unencrypted torrent traffic. iptables -I p2pblock -m string --string BitTorrent protocol --algo bm -m recent --rdest --set --name P2PBLOCK iptables -I p2pblock -m string --string BitTorrent protocol --algo bm -m limit --limit 1/minute -j LOG --log-prefix P2PBLOCK-seen-bitbm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyer%E2%80%93Moore_string_search_algorithm https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=38843 (demonstration for OpenWRT) On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: We do L7 QoS / shaping / filtering at our head end with a very expensive IPOQUE PRX device, and explicitly block torrents. It's also discussed in our ToS. The only way I've found to get around it is by using a socks proxy to another country just for torrent traffic. -- Ben West b...@gowasabi.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
